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pops
13-06-2015, 04:31 PM
Black CSL up on eBay.

Can't do linky as only on phone.

Matt21
13-06-2015, 05:53 PM
A lot seem to have new engines

Neil M
13-06-2015, 06:49 PM
There you go pops:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BMW-M3-CSL-with-Brand-new-engine-and-airbox-plus-extras-/151712940624?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item2352cbc250

billyboysm3
13-06-2015, 07:05 PM
It's also in cutters

Trawler
13-06-2015, 07:08 PM
It's also in cutters

They must be saying nice things about it then

billyboysm3
13-06-2015, 07:12 PM
I think this car got the 2nd to last engine before I got the last one ever made.

Cosworth50
13-06-2015, 07:46 PM
Looks nice and has had £20k plus recently spent

O'Neill
13-06-2015, 09:51 PM
Just from limited pics rear centre console very tatty and steering wheel looks like leather it's so worn.

I bet if viewed there would be loads of things wrong which would add a good few k to rectify.

33k. You could have mine with 79k miles, 3 previous owners, much better condition and proper colour, SG.

Looks nice and has had £20k plus recently spent

mattCSLnut
13-06-2015, 09:59 PM
Just from limited pics rear centre console very tatty and steering wheel looks like leather it's so worn.

I bet if viewed there would be loads of things wrong which would add a good few k to rectify.

33k. You could have mine with 79k miles, 3 previous owners, much better condition and proper colour, SG.

Is that your pre sale sale pitch mate ? ;) :hahaha:
FYI you're Cecils price point should be @ £35K + if & when you decide to part with it ;)

O'Neill
13-06-2015, 10:12 PM
Is that your pre sale sale pitch mate ? ;) :hahaha:
FYI you're Cecils price point should be @ £35K + if & when you decide to part with it ;)

No not yet, I'm loving the standard setup:supz:

MisterCorn
13-06-2015, 10:12 PM
Just from limited pics rear centre console very tatty and steering wheel looks like leather it's so worn.

I bet if viewed there would be loads of things wrong which would add a good few k to rectify.

33k. You could have mine with 79k miles, 3 previous owners, much better condition and proper colour, SG.

You need to update my thread ;)

MC

mattCSLnut
13-06-2015, 10:34 PM
No not yet, I'm loving the standard setup:supz:
It's surprisingly good isn't it ? ;) :hahaha:

billyboysm3
14-06-2015, 07:32 AM
Im also loving the standard set up.

CraigMillwardCroft
14-06-2015, 11:04 AM
Needs some attention :whistle:

Matt21
14-06-2015, 02:31 PM
No longer for sale....

Cosworth50
14-06-2015, 07:48 PM
Just from limited pics rear centre console very tatty and steering wheel looks like leather it's so worn.

I bet if viewed there would be loads of things wrong which would add a good few k to rectify.

33k. You could have mine with 79k miles, 3 previous owners, much better condition and proper colour, SG.

You couldn't though mate as you're not selling :bigcry:

Diamondgeezer
22-06-2015, 11:39 PM
No longer for sale....

Back on for sale
Now at 30k which seems a bargain considering the work done

I'm guessing whoever was the winning bidder from before decided not to go through with the sale for whatever reason

Oh it's at 30k with 27 bids and 6 days left

mattCSLnut
23-06-2015, 12:34 AM
There's something not quite right about this fleeBay CSL Ad :whistle:

Neil M
29-06-2015, 04:08 PM
Stalled at £30, now sold for £30,400: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/151719188487?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
It will be interesting to see if the buyer goes through with the purchase or whether it will reappear next week? :whistle:

billyboysm3
29-06-2015, 04:11 PM
You also need to run that engine in incase any other issue's occur.

mattCSLnut
29-06-2015, 06:05 PM
Stalled at £30, now sold for £30,400: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/151719188487?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
It will be interesting to see if the buyer goes through with the purchase or whether it will reappear next week? :whistle:

Quite possibly the latter :whistle: It's at least the second time it's been through the fleeBay mill :banghead:

mattCSLnut
29-06-2015, 06:54 PM
It's back again : http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/151730148071?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2661&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
... even sooner than I thought with a keener BIN price :whistle:

Neil M
29-06-2015, 07:39 PM
As you said Matt there's something not quite right about that car.

It was originally a classified ad with a 'Buy it Now' of £33,950, a couple of days later the listing was cancelled.

The car was relisted the following day with a starting bid of 99pm and a reserve, after receiving 27 bids the reserve was off and the car stalled at 30K it eventually finished with a figure of £30,400 and 29 bids.

Now it appears to be back on again at a starting bid of 99p or 'Buy it Now' at £35K. If anyone's considering it, tread carefully :whistle:

LHutchin
29-06-2015, 08:03 PM
Isn't the owner a member here or on cutters?

Neil M
29-06-2015, 08:10 PM
Isn't the owner a member here or on cutters?

Don't know who the owner is (you have a choice of 2; phone Rich on, etc. and ad placed by Jim)
I don't think he's a member of the reg. http://www.rhautomotion.co.uk/
This ad is doing nothing for CSL owners other than bringing them into disrepute. :whistle:

LHutchin
29-06-2015, 08:32 PM
Don't know who the owner is (you have a choice of 2; phone Rich on, etc. and ad placed by Jim)
I don't think he's a member of the reg. http://www.rhautomotion.co.uk/
This ad is doing nothing for CSL owners other than bringing them into disrepute. :whistle:

I thought there was a sort of for sale thread on cutters about it but can't find it now

nw99
29-06-2015, 08:33 PM
Thanks for the heads up

mattCSLnut
29-06-2015, 08:35 PM
Isn't the owner a member here or on cutters?
I could be wrong however I have a feeling this could be the guy that was a CSLR member for a very short while (few years ago now) but got band from here for posting pic of his less than attractive :smt078 semi-naked misses (Sandra IIRC) then tried to flog some after market E46 M3 floor mats and wouldn't stop after the CSLR management had a polite word in his ear :whistle:

billyboysm3
29-06-2015, 09:45 PM
I thought there was a sort of for sale thread on cutters about it but can't find it now

There was in the Csl section but post got removed as it wasn't in for sale section

Diamondgeezer
01-07-2015, 08:09 PM
It's like a turd that won't flush away
It's now on PH with a price of £9700 :hahaha::hahaha::hahaha:

billyboysm3
01-07-2015, 09:37 PM
Has anyone seen the auction finish or does it never meet reserve? Surely if you want it you would just go and see it

mattCSLnut
01-07-2015, 09:41 PM
It's like a turd that won't flush away
It's now on PH with a price of £9700 :hahaha::hahaha::hahaha:

:hahaha: :hahaha: :hahaha:

Neil M
01-07-2015, 09:54 PM
It's like a turd that won't flush away
It's now on PH with a price of £9700 :hahaha::hahaha::hahaha:

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/bmw/e46-m3-00-06/bmw-3-series-e46-m3-csl-2004/4389514 :banghead:

That's probably the cost of putting it right, a tu_d is a tu_d no matter how much you polish it!:smokin:

73CSL
02-07-2015, 10:08 AM
surely it can be broken for parts for almost double that ?

or am i missing something ?

nw942
02-07-2015, 10:54 AM
Must mean £19700 surely.

mattCSLnut
02-07-2015, 11:12 AM
Must mean £19700 surely.

Who knows ?!?! the seller clearly doesn't :banghead: ;)
I'm sorry to say it but that PH Ad (along with it's fleeBay sibling) are an embarrassment to the CSL community :bigcry:

Matt21
02-07-2015, 01:02 PM
I spoke with the seller. He seemed relatively genuine on why it fell through twice. I suspect it fell through as it is in worse condition than he let on.

He did say his BIN on ebay was pie in the sky but was worth a go. He said he would let it go for around £30000.

He mentioned that the engine was fitted by BMW in Southampton so that can easily be verified. He also said it would need running in and so on, and had it 5 years, and had just moved on having been without it for 22 months. All seem possible.

I think the PH ad is a scam not connected to him. Location is different and owner name is different.

Maybe I am being too kind, but from my exchanges it doesn't seem that bad assuming facts are correct. That said I would not buy it!

Neil M
02-07-2015, 06:23 PM
This advert has been rejected by PistonHeads

View the latest PistonHeads fraud warnings here (http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/fraudwarnings.asp)

Cosworth50
03-07-2015, 09:26 PM
Obviously the ph advert was a scam.

The eBay ad is genuine and Jim, the seller, is genuine and a nice bloke. I viewed it and went down with my bro and had a very long journey and it seemed good mechanically. the reasons we didn't want it were just because we felt it was 90k miles, non original engine and a bit too tatty cosmetically.

May suit someone that wants a track weapon as someone may like the idea of a new engine.

s.mac
03-07-2015, 11:32 PM
Non original? Was it a warranty replacement? Just wondering what a buyers thoughts are :)

Cosworth50
04-07-2015, 01:15 AM
Non original? Was it a warranty replacement? Just wondering what a buyers thoughts are :)

Sorry yes the engine is a CSL engine but it is not the original numbers matching engine as its a replacement.

Maybe I was expecting too much but I personally felt that £30k for a 90k miler should be a well looked after, garaged, tidy car with good bodywork.

I don't think I'm speaking out of turn when I say the rear seat centre console would need redoing and I have no idea what that would cost.

The alloys need doing, tyres aren't great if I recall but that is all by the by really.

It was the bodywork that, to me, looked like it had been tracked hard although this was denied by the seller and so he is probably right and I am probably wrong. There were chunks of paint missing on the bumper and front and bubbling on the arches and i felt it needed a full respray. I didn't think some bits of trim fitted properly either but, again, perhaps I'm being picky. I personally felt that if it had bodywork like that, a new engine and new gearbox and all that stuff then it could have been driven hard and not looked after and i thought that underneath there may have been problems too although I did not get it up on ramps.

I know I have driven 'daily' drivers to similar mileage and so on and seen many a 100k mile car and none have looked that bad on the front end.

But, it has had tens of thousands spent on it, is under warranty and is a CSL that is hpi clear with one of the lowest mileage engines out there so someone may have an entirely different view to me.

I think people have different opinions but I personally felt that I would be more comfortable spending slightly more on a more original, lower owner car with lower mileage and original engine etc.

I don't know who or how much the carbon splitters would be, can you paint a carbon front spoiler, who would do the bodywork, the time taken and dealing with it all is just too much hassle for me. Someone that is more 'hands on' may like the idea of this, a bodyshop or detailer may suit it etc.

But, speak to the seller, he describes this in the advert, is a nice chap and maybe a deal could be had for someone looking for a way into CSL ownership.

Neil M
04-07-2015, 08:48 PM
For those who may be interested; bids finished after 19 at £25,265 with the 'Reserve Not Met'
Where does it go from here - back again on Monday?:whistle:

Cosworth50
05-07-2015, 12:39 AM
For those who may be interested; bids finished after 19 at £25,265 with the 'Reserve Not Met'
Where does it go from here - back again on Monday?:whistle:

That's about right imho. It will never be a big money car due to mileage and non numbers matching so assume you get it for £25k and spend £6k on bodywork then you're in at £31k.

J2LTB
08-07-2015, 09:22 PM
It's now back on for Buy it now 30k

AbidK
10-07-2015, 06:32 PM
The price on PH has gone up again....this guy is doing himself no favours with the constant chopping and changing...

0836whimper
10-07-2015, 06:58 PM
Agree. It's embarrassing.

Neil M
10-07-2015, 09:51 PM
Always better when you post a link, even if a little over-optimistic:
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/bmw/e46-m3-00-06/-e46-m3-csl-with-new-engine-airbox-and-extras/4421365 :thumbs:
(http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/bmw/e46-m3-00-06/-e46-m3-csl-with-new-engine-airbox-and-extras/4421365)

Cosworth50
11-07-2015, 12:48 AM
To be fair he is going to sort out the bodywork for the 37k but I would guess every one on here would prefer an original engine, lower miler in more original, mint condition for £32-35k. I could be wrong though.

But, some people just don't accept their asset is not worth what they think. That car is a £25k car max as is.

Are none of you tempted?

cslsuperfan
11-07-2015, 03:02 AM
To be fair he is going to sort out the bodywork for the 37k but I would guess every one on here would prefer an original engine, lower miler in more original, mint condition for £32-35k. I could be wrong though.

But, some people just don't accept their asset is not worth what they think. That car is a £25k car max as is.

Are none of you tempted?


By investing in the car prior to sale the owner will maximise his eventual resale price.

As for the replacement engine, I know of at least 2 csl's with the same scenario and they're both highly regarded examples currently and previously owned by forum members.

J2LTB
11-07-2015, 10:53 AM
It's running 265/35/19's on the rear 😱😱😱😱

Cosworth50
11-07-2015, 11:12 AM
By investing in the car prior to sale the owner will maximise his eventual resale price.

As for the replacement engine, I know of at least 2 csl's with the same scenario and they're both highly regarded examples currently and previously owned by forum members.

Of course he will maximise his eventual sale price but will it be cost effective?

shimmy
11-07-2015, 12:06 PM
By investing in the car prior to sale the owner will maximise his eventual resale price.

As for the replacement engine, I know of at least 2 csl's with the same scenario and they're both highly regarded examples currently and previously owned by forum members.

Thank you :)

mattCSLnut
11-07-2015, 12:26 PM
To be fair he is going to sort out the bodywork for the 37k but I would guess every one on here would prefer an original engine, lower miler in more original, mint condition for £32-35k. I could be wrong though.

But, some people just don't accept their asset is not worth what they think. That car is a £25k car max as is.

Are none of you tempted?

With all due respect ;) only in your imagination ;) It's common wishful thinking some potential buyers display and something we've seen on here before :whistle:

The recent works on that car alone are nearing the £25K barrier... Are you suggesting the rest of that CSL should be FOC ?
Understanding CSL is a sellers market with demand outstripping supply and re-calibrating your expectations may help with your quest.
BTW... The ideal CSL you describe above start @ £40K :smokin:

VW Sportline
11-07-2015, 03:01 PM
Hi to all csl members,I have just registered so to clear a few things up and answer some questions.
The mysterious M3 CSl that keeps appearing on Ebay and Pistonheads belongs to me.
I joined because I have been reading your kind and not so kind words.

The CSL has been in my ownership for 5 years ,it has never been tracked as it's been under a BMW warranty all of it's life from when it left the showroom.
In my ownership it has had the SMG pump replaced and the dreaded rear end floor to chassis has been entirely replaced (not repaired) but replaced.

23 months ago the CSL suffered from a misfire and BMW Southampton diagnosed the fault as being a small fragment of the head gasket going into one of the cylinders thus scoring the outer wall and this meant a new engine,luckily for me it could be done under warranty.
The engine tooks 14 months to arrive from Germany and the last 9 months were due to BMW Southampton taking their time over my CSL.
Whilst the CSL was in their care it wasn't very well looked after and was left under a tree with no cover over it,this caused the bonnet to be chipped.
Whilst in their care rust bubbles appeared on one of the wheel arches and corrosion appeared on the driver's door mirror,because the car was left outside for months these problems were never remedied nether did BMW alert me of the problems.

When I got the CSL back at the starting of June I thought if I listed on Ebay then someone else could have the pleasure of driving a cheap zero mileage engined CSL and maybe do the work that was needed when cash allowed.
But this has not been the case, instead I have had criticism,scam adverts and unpleasant words.

When listing for the first time I sort professional advice on what to list at and to tell the truth the fist gent that looked said that it was mechanically sound just had body work issues.
The second gent decided that with all his other cars in his collection the CSL would be a bit expensive to insure for track use.

I have decided to spend a few thousand pounds on to get it to a showroom condition because that seems to be only reason that's letting it down.

It is on Pistonheads for £37k it might be a 'pie in the sky' figure but I am open to offers.

With CS's now at a minimum of £20k and there's a 100k miler on Pistonheads for £20k then surely if my CSL was on it's original engine and in it's condition now ,it's going to be worth £25k plus.

A quote from an article on Pistonheads.

CSLs have been going up and up since bottoming out at around £25K a few years back. There aren't any below £30,000 now with low mileage cars comfortably above £40,000; indeed, those hoping to grab a CS fairly cheaply will be disappointed as rising CSL values have pulled the former up to c. £20K.

Pistonheads link ...http://www.pistonheads.com/regulars/ph-spottedykywt/the-70k-m3-csl-spotted/32490

Oh one last thing before I go which made me chuckle was the comment about the leather on the steering wheel,I didn't think CSL's had leather steering wheels ,Dam,Blast it !!! did I miss an optional upgrade.

Thanks for your time reading this ...Regards Jim

s.mac
11-07-2015, 04:00 PM
Probably doing the right thing getting it looking good.

As for the new engine, I would have thought this to be a bonus. Some CSLs have had some stresses put on their engines so I would have thought a new one would appease a new buyer, especially one put in under warranty.

I might be biased though :whistle:

An easy job to post the v5 off to get the engine number changed.

VW Sportline
11-07-2015, 04:09 PM
Hi S.MAC

You would think having a new engine would be be a pleaser but no I think if it was on sale with showroom condition bodywork and an 89000 mile engine I would be inundated with offers.

VW Sportline
11-07-2015, 04:32 PM
An answer to J2LTB .

I was advised from a CSL specialist that if I was running Cup tyres then I should use 265-30-19 on the rear but for road use , use Continentals on 265-35-19.

s.mac
11-07-2015, 04:42 PM
New engine or old engine

No brainier for me

New :smokin:

Matt21
11-07-2015, 04:54 PM
Surely BMW Southampton should be paying or at least contributing towards the damage whilst in their care?

VW Sportline
11-07-2015, 05:00 PM
BMW Southampton have paid in a way but not for the bodywork because they are saying the rust was already there before they took procession of the car.

They paid for new brake discs,calipers and pads front and rear and new suspension on the rear ,also a new battery.because the car was sat in one position for several months.

Matt21
11-07-2015, 05:02 PM
BMW Southampton have paid in a way but not for the bodywork because they are saying the rust was already there before they took procession of the car.

They paid for new brake discs,calipers and pads front and rear and new suspension on the rear ,also a new battery.because the car was sat in one position for several months.

Buggers!

Can't you claim on the 12 year anti corrosion warranty. Mine goes in next week for a rear wheel arch

mattCSLnut
11-07-2015, 05:02 PM
Surely BMW Southampton should be paying or at least contributing towards the damage whilst in their care?

Exactly :beer:

VW Sportline
11-07-2015, 05:10 PM
Buggers!

Can't you claim on the 12 year anti corrosion warranty. Mine goes in next week for a rear wheel arch

Hi I could but the garage that doing all the other work doesn't want their work tampered with by BMW.

mistergav
11-07-2015, 05:20 PM
Buggers!

Can't you claim on the 12 year anti corrosion warranty. Mine goes in next week for a rear wheel arch

Most CSL's would have the 6 year anti-corrosion warranty, only vehicles that left the factory (or registered not sure which) after 1st of January 2004 come with a 12 year anti corrosion warranty.

I found this out the hard way. :)

billyboysm3
11-07-2015, 06:12 PM
I think it's good that you have come on here to say hello.

Good luck with the sale.

mattCSLnut
11-07-2015, 06:30 PM
I think it's good that you have come on here to say hello.

Good luck with the sale.

Ditto :beer: also worth considering subscribing to CSLR properly via the Donate button and advertising your CSL on here.
Recently, good CSLs have been selling within a few weeks... sometimes within a few days on here :smokin:

VW Sportline
11-07-2015, 06:36 PM
Ditto :beer: also worth considering subscribing to CSLR properly via the Donate button and advertising your CSL on here.
Recently, good CSLs have been selling within a few weeks... sometimes within a few days on here :smokin:

Thanks for the heads mattCSLnut ,when the car has had the work done I will advertise it here.

VW Sportline
11-07-2015, 06:36 PM
I think it's good that you have come on here to say hello.

Good luck with the sale.


Thank you.

mattCSLnut
11-07-2015, 06:54 PM
Thanks for the heads mattCSLnut ,when the car has had the work done I will advertise it here.

Good man :thumbs: and welcome aboard :beer:
BTW... once your Cecil is all done "spick & span", I'd advertise it @ £39,995 and hold out for the right new owner to come along if you're not in a desperate hurry to sell. The CSL is a sellers market which has moved on up recently (and slowly but surely keeps on rising) in favour of the sellers. By the time your car has had it's new paint, wheel re-furb and bits of interior all re done it'll be virtually like new :thumbs: (so long as the standard of the repairs is high) Also lets not forget all the recent BMW Warranty work (engine included) will have a transferable remainder of the 24 months warranty from the date of instalation. A real bonus for the new owner :smokin:

VW Sportline
11-07-2015, 07:02 PM
Good man :thumbs: and welcome aboard :beer:
BTW... once your Cecil is all done "spick & span", I'd advertise it @ £39,995 and hold out for the right new owner to come along if you're not in a desperate hurry to sell. The CSL is a sellers market which has moved on up recently (and slowly but surely keeps on rising) in favour of the sellers. By the time your car has had it's new paint, wheel re-furb and bits of interior all re done it'll be virtually like new :thumbs: (so long as the standard of the repairs is high) Also lets not forget all the recent BMW Warranty work (engine included) will have a transferable remainder of the 24 months warranty from the date of instalation. A real bonus for the new owner :smokin:

Yes I could advertise at that figure but with all the criticism that I have received on this forum and also 'Cutters' do you think that figure would be the right figure.

mattCSLnut
11-07-2015, 07:19 PM
Yes I could advertise at that figure but with all the criticism that I have received on this forum and also 'Cutters' do you think that figure would be the right figure.

IMHO now that you've rightly decided to do this whole thing properly by investing that little bit extra time & £££ to make your CSL the excellent car it always deserved to be (and possibly once was) ... so long as all the remedial work you're now having done to it is of a very high standard, I'd consider this moment the equivalent of a re-set button.
Forget those less than perfect eBay adverts ;) don't waste any more of your time or money re advertising the CSL there. Re writte the PH Ad explaining clearly exactly what you're now doing and once the CSL is all sorted get some proper pix and advertise it on CSLR :thumbs:

VW Sportline
11-07-2015, 07:28 PM
IMHO now that you've rightly decided to do this whole thing properly by investing that little bit extra time & £££ to make your CSL the excellent car it always deserved to be (and possibly once was) ... so long as all the remedial work you're now having done to it is of a very high standard, I'd consider this moment the equivalent of a re-set button.
Forget those less than perfect eBay adverts ;) don't waste any more of your time or money re advertising the CSL there. Re writte the PH Ad explaining clearly exactly what you're now doing and once the CSL is all sorted get some proper pix and advertise it on CSLR :thumbs:

Thanks for you kind words and I will keep you posted on the progress.

s.mac
11-07-2015, 07:36 PM
Agree with Matt :)

If your splitters need re furbing contact Mark on here ;)
Shimmy also has the paint code if your interior trim needs attention :thumbs:

VW Sportline
11-07-2015, 07:43 PM
Agree with Matt :)

If your splitters need re furbing contact Mark on here ;)
Shimmy also has the paint code if your interior trim needs attention :thumbs:


Hi thanks for the heads up, I have purchased brand new carbon splitters.

And the chap who's doing the work used to work for BMW.

0836whimper
11-07-2015, 07:48 PM
IMHO now that you've rightly decided to do this whole thing properly by investing that little bit extra time & £££ to make your CSL the excellent car it always deserved to be (and possibly once was) ... so long as all the remedial work you're now having done to it is of a very high standard, I'd consider this moment the equivalent of a re-set button.
Forget those less than perfect eBay adverts ;) don't waste any more of your time or money re advertising the CSL there. Re writte the PH Ad explaining clearly exactly what you're now doing and once the CSL is all sorted get some proper pix and advertise it on CSLR :thumbs:

My thoughts exactly. Good move coming here, being known will help rather than being a random ebay car. I would also sell it just on CSLR, there's that few cars out there, anyone serious will know where to look.

Matt21
11-07-2015, 07:52 PM
Agree. Get the bits sorted, write a better advert, avoid eBay, get some nice news pics, and £39995 should be where you are pitching it.

Cosworth won't like it but bet you it sells

VW Sportline
11-07-2015, 07:59 PM
Agree. Get the bits sorted, write a better advert, avoid eBay, get some nice news pics, and £39995 should be where you are pitching it.

Cosworth won't like it but bet you it sells


I'm not sure whether Cosworth50 has had the pleasure of ownership of a CSL or indeed the day in day out of running and maintaining one.

s.mac
11-07-2015, 08:30 PM
I'm sure there's a post in the technical section with the code :)

mattCSLnut
11-07-2015, 09:03 PM
Thanks for you kind words and I will keep you posted on the progress.

Please do :thumbs: we do look after our own ;) :hahaha:

mattCSLnut
11-07-2015, 09:18 PM
Hi thanks for the heads up, I have purchased brand new carbon splitters.

And the chap who's doing the work used to work for BMW.

IIRC the new CF splitters come without any lacquer on them these days :banghead: so there will be more work required to get them to the OE finish.
If I were you I'd (as others have already said) get Mark CSL to refurbish your original one and get a refund for the ones you've just purchased. :thumbs:
Below are a couple of pix of one of my rare original MK1 flippers before & after refurbishment by Mark :smokin: Highly recommended

Cosworth50
12-07-2015, 01:30 PM
I'm not sure whether Cosworth50 has had the pleasure of ownership of a CSL or indeed the day in day out of running and maintaining one.

Hi gents,

Just to be clear I really do hope the car sells and that the new owner is happy and that the seller gets what he wants for it. I'm a car fan and want everyone to enjoy their cars, especially on sunny days like today.

We all have our opinions, mine are often wrong and I'm not afraid to admit it. Someone may pay £50k for this car as it has had a new engine and, by the sounds of it, will look mint when restored.

Personally for me I would prefer one with lower miles and an original engine and one that had original paint BUT I may be in the minority. We are all different and that's what makes the world go round.

All the best with the sale

Neil M
12-07-2015, 01:58 PM
Do you mean the trim such as steering wheel and dash trims or seat backs and rear console?

I think he's referring to those areas painted in Titanium Silver, however if I remember correctly 'Shimmy' had his steering wheel repainted by colour matching the existing, no BMW paint code.

'NZ_M3' would probably know the BMW codes for the Titanium paint and the 'Plasti-Dip' type paint also. ;)

s.mac
12-07-2015, 04:05 PM
Yes the trim :)

Cotsworth 50, original paint maybe hard to come by, I bet 90+% have had some paint to keep them tidy.

Plenty out there with original engines waiting to go pop.

Cosworth50
12-07-2015, 08:31 PM
Yes the trim :)

Cotsworth 50, original paint maybe hard to come by, I bet 90+% have had some paint to keep them tidy.

Plenty out there with original engines waiting to go pop.

Yes, sorry I know most will have had the front end done.

Yes, most have original engines, whether they're 'waiting to go pop' is open to question imho.

Anyway, I'm not adding much to this discussion so I'll leave you gents to it

If anyone has a CSL for sale then please feel free to PM me.

s.mac
13-07-2015, 06:54 PM
I was only joking about the pop ;)

cslsuperfan
13-07-2015, 11:48 PM
Yes the trim :)

Cotsworth 50, original paint maybe hard to come by, I bet 90+% have had some paint to keep them tidy.

Plenty out there with original engines waiting to go pop.



Matt was hanging out to be the 1 remaining oem paint King.

All bright and shiny now!!

Ironic that a stonechipped nose can have such a detrimental effect on value when a very small financial outlay puts £££££'s back on the car.

Bounce
14-07-2015, 07:56 AM
Matt was hanging out to be the 1 remaining oem paint King.

All bright and shiny now!!

Ironic that a stonechipped nose can have such a detrimental effect on value when a very small financial outlay puts £££££'s back on the car.Im still Oem paint all round ;)

Neil M
14-07-2015, 09:45 AM
+1 :thumbs:

Mike R
14-07-2015, 10:10 AM
Just shows you're not using the car how BMW intended :gayfight: :blalalala:

Rick H
14-07-2015, 10:24 AM
Just shows you're not using the car how BMW intended :gayfight: :blalalala:

+1 :thumbs:

s.mac
14-07-2015, 06:47 PM
No they just look like pepper pots ;)

glendog74
14-07-2015, 11:44 PM
Im still Oem paint all round ;)

That's what you think mate, lol! :whistle:

VW Sportline
14-08-2015, 06:46 PM
Hi All

My CSL is now Body work complete and ready for new owner, I am looking for
£38495.00 ONO.

I will upload more pictures over the thread.

VW Sportline
14-08-2015, 06:48 PM
more pics

VW Sportline
14-08-2015, 06:55 PM
In these pictures there is a bit of scruffing to the centre carbon between the rear seats.

VW Sportline
14-08-2015, 07:01 PM
In these pics there is a tiny mark on the rear bumper and on the rear carbon diffuser the lacquer has a small bubble.

nw99
14-08-2015, 08:13 PM
What's the mileage please ?

VW Sportline
14-08-2015, 08:31 PM
Hi mileage is 89524 if you read the thread you can see that the car has had £25K spent on it plus another £5K work just done.

VW Sportline
14-08-2015, 08:39 PM
I now have my BMW M3 CSL back from the dealer after 22 months waiting for an engine,
it is black with 89524 miles on bodywork and chassis.
It has had a brand new
Engine and air box (£18k) fitted at 89000 miles
Clutch (£850)
Front and rear brake discs ,Calipers and pads (£3995.00)
Rear shoes (£100)
Battery (£120)
Rear shocks and springs (£849.00)
Aircon dryer and recharge (£350)
engine belts (£150)

Bumper ,2no wings, bonnet and wheel arches respray and professional detail (£4295.00)

It also has had an Inspection 2 service and a brand new MOT.(£900)
The car has full BMW service history and has been under warranty all of it's life from which I have a list some 14 pages long of all the items that have been fitted to the car.
The engine was fitted under warranty.
It has also had the rear chassis and floor changed under warranty 22 months ago (a problem that's found on all CSL's) and the year before SMG 2 gearbox parts and firm ware upgrade.
The car would be ideal as a collectors piece.



There's also marks on the carbon fibre between the rear seats.
A quote from an article on pistonheads.

' CSLs have been going up and up since bottoming out at around £25K a few years back.
There aren't any below £30,000 now with low mileage cars comfortably above £40,000;
indeed, those hoping to grab a CS fairly cheaply will be disappointed
as rising CSL values have pulled the former up to c. £20K '.

See original link below.

http://www.pistonheads.com/regulars/ph-spottedykywt/the-70k-m3-csl-spotted/32490

If you are interested in the car then please contact me on 07989 852466

If I sell it Then I will required £200 deposit by Paypal and the balance at collection.

CSL register is the only place this car is on sale ,if it appears on Freeads or Gumtree or even down your local corner shop it will be a scam.
Thanks for taking the time to view.

Regards Jim

nw99
14-08-2015, 08:41 PM
VW thanks good luck with the sale

VW Sportline
14-08-2015, 08:44 PM
Thank you

mattCSLnut
14-08-2015, 10:35 PM
Hi there Jim

That's much better mate :thumbs: your Cecil is looking great :smokin: ... although I'd edit the bit about carbon fibre boot floor as there's no such thing ;)
The very best of luck with the sale :thumbs: although I don't think you'll actually need it as it's a bargain of the month @ your £38.5K asking price considering the amount of work it's had recently. I still think it should be £40K but that's just IMHO ;) ATB

Matt21
14-08-2015, 10:46 PM
I would start a fresh ad on here without all the pages of noise.

It was a messy ad for a car with some bodywork requirements. It's now cosmetically sound as well as mechanically so should sell quickly at that competitive asking price:supz:

VW Sportline
15-08-2015, 09:29 AM
I would start a fresh ad on here without all the pages of noise.

It was a messy ad for a car with some bodywork requirements. It's now cosmetically sound as well as mechanically so should sell quickly at that competitive asking price:supz:

Thanks Matt21

I think I will start a new Ad/Thread later today.