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Stumpy
12-06-2015, 08:38 AM
...is going bonkers no?
I've had a few enquiries of late - one wanting me to do him a favour and sell in my opinion cheap. The other being much more reasonable about it.
Having looked last night there are only 2 for sale on Trader at the moment, and possibly only one on PH. Are they all locked up & tucked away?!
One - 32k miles SG £53k
One - 62k miles SB £35k
One - 25k miles SG £????
Took my son (10) out in it last weekend with 2 of his buddies - they were screaming with glee when we were driving 'enthusiastically'...
Its almost reached fever pitch out there! Almost but not quite... The outlook certainly looks good for the short term at least, if you own one & might be persuaded to sell.
I'm only contemplating selling mine for a new CSL next year, so will be keeping it for a while yet, but is everyone else receiving PM requests about their cars?
Matt21
12-06-2015, 08:59 AM
When I said something about mine once I had about 5 PMs asking to buy the car immediately. They had misunderstood, so didn't even discuss price as it is not for sale.
Aware of a few that have been sold that have not even touched the market.
Few came up for sale earlier this year but they have all been hoovered up. When demand exceeds supply that can only result in one thing!
MisterCorn
12-06-2015, 09:14 AM
I saw the SG 32k mile one on Wednesday when I was in the dealers looking at other cars, there is definitely a premium for the dealer, they also had a Carrera GT and a 2k miles F40 in the showroom. The car looked pretty tidy, but at that price I would have at least expected it to have Cup tyres on it, and ideally uprated brakes :thumbs:.
The market seems pretty similar to the NSX market which I am more familiar with. Very few cars around, a lot of cars are known to the forum members, and many cars change hands without making it to the open market after the merest mention of thinking of selling on the forum.
I am under pressure from SWMBO to reduce the number of cars around the house, but there are other cars which would go before the CSL. I still can't get over how good these cars are, a good example of the whole being so much more than the sum of the parts.
MC
CraigMillwardCroft
12-06-2015, 09:41 AM
I saw the SG 32k mile one on Wednesday when I was in the dealers looking at other cars, there is definitely a premium for the dealer, they also had a Carrera GT and a 2k miles F40 in the showroom. The car looked pretty tidy, but at that price I would have at least expected it to have Cup tyres on it, and ideally uprated brakes :thumbs:.
The market seems pretty similar to the NSX market which I am more familiar with. Very few cars around, a lot of cars are known to the forum members, and many cars change hands without making it to the open market after the merest mention of thinking of selling on the forum.
I am under pressure from SWMBO to reduce the number of cars around the house, but there are other cars which would go before the CSL. I still can't get over how good these cars are, a good example of the whole being so much more than the sum of the parts.
MC
What was the price :thumbs:
LeinsCSL
12-06-2015, 10:16 AM
I saw the SG 32k mile one on Wednesday when I was in the dealers looking at other cars, there is definitely a premium for the dealer, they also had a Carrera GT and a 2k miles F40 in the showroom. The car looked pretty tidy, but at that price I would have at least expected it to have Cup tyres on it, and ideally uprated brakes :thumbs:.
The market seems pretty similar to the NSX market which I am more familiar with. Very few cars around, a lot of cars are known to the forum members, and many cars change hands without making it to the open market after the merest mention of thinking of selling on the forum.
I am under pressure from SWMBO to reduce the number of cars around the house, but there are other cars which would go before the CSL. I still can't get over how good these cars are, a good example of the whole being so much more than the sum of the parts.
MC
Did the F40 have uprated brakes? It sounds like that dealer's customer base probably didn't want such things
MisterCorn
12-06-2015, 10:36 AM
I didn't ask about the brakes on the F40, at £1.1M it was outside of my budget by just over £1M. Carrera GT was £575k, 993 RS was something like £250k. I was having a nosey around as my NSX was having it's aircon re-gassed at the Honda place next door.
My brakes comment was intended to a tongue-in-cheek comment about how the standard brakes are not great and that upgraded ones are seen by many as not an upgrade but as they should have been as standard.
MC
Stumpy
12-06-2015, 10:42 AM
What was the price :thumbs:
Its a secret.
But in all honesty today it would be not less than £33k, but end of the year....£35k? But I'm not selling so would have to be well in excess of those figures to tempt me.
As mentioned they're an awesome machine. There's nothing similar for the money. Maybe a £65-70k GT3...
Mike R
12-06-2015, 11:31 AM
If anyone does know of any cars for sale, I have a friend who is after one.
Must have the following:
Aircon
FBMWSH
Subframe done by BMW
Colour not important
Existing BMW warranty
Would be nice to have, but not deal-breaker:
APs
Supersprint
Good aftermarket suspension from one of the usual suspects
He has £35k budget right now (this may be negotiable upwards a little for the right car).
I have told him what sort of mileage to expect at this value and he understands that condition is more important.
Let me know if any of you are tempted to sell up.
billyboysm3
12-06-2015, 03:15 PM
I wouldnt sell mine for a penny less than £50k with everything its just had on it.
And if I did sell it what can you buy for £50k?
Mike R
12-06-2015, 03:39 PM
I wouldnt sell mine for a penny less than £50k with everything its just had on it.
And if I did sell it what can you buy for £50k?
The only car I can find that ticks all the same boxes (4-seats etc) I would want that isn't a backward step in handling / performance wise is a 991 Carrera S (cheaper and faster than a 997 GT3 :o ), but they are still currently £60k.
Cosworth50
12-06-2015, 04:05 PM
They're certainly desirable and I would like one.
Sellers will always ramp prices and buyers will always try bring them down.
It looks good and is held in high regard. But, it's smg box holds it back and by end of summer more will be on the market as usual. Bmws don't typically appreciate like Porsches.
I don't think they will lose much money, if rates start going up then money will come out of cars as quickly as it has been going in. Who knows what will happen - July 8th budget announcements will tell us a lot.
We haven't a crystal ball, just enjoy them gents :)
cslsuperfan
12-06-2015, 05:13 PM
They're certainly desirable and I would like one.
Sellers will always ramp prices and buyers will always try bring them down.
It looks good and is held in high regard. But, it's smg box holds it back and by end of summer more will be on the market as usual. Bmws don't typically appreciate like Porsches.
I don't think they will lose much money, if rates start going up then money will come out of cars as quickly as it has been going in. Who knows what will happen - July 8th budget announcements will tell us a lot.
We haven't a crystal ball, just enjoy them gents :)
Disagree with your reasoning
CSL's are historically bought by enthusiasts who run the car in the fine season's and then sell up in the autumn.
SMG gearbox has nothing to do with the increase in CSL's for sale toward the end of the year.
I do agree that SMG isn't for everyone but the vast majority of CSL owners are more then happy with their paddles.
Agreed.
I was never sure about the smg as so many bad opinions of it.
Having used it I find it great and wonder if most criticism comes from people who've never tried one but love jumping on bandwagons.
The smg is part of the character of a CSL.
Matt21
12-06-2015, 06:06 PM
Also agree. If it didn't have SMG would the word "slur" exist?
Cosworth50
12-06-2015, 08:24 PM
Maybe I'm wrong then gents. But, most cars that appreciate tend to be a manual transmission.
But, who knows.
Buy one and enjoy it :)
shimmy
12-06-2015, 08:28 PM
Maybe I'm wrong then gents. But, most cars that appreciate tend to be a manual transmission.
But, who knows.
Buy one and enjoy it :)
it is manual
Cosworth50
12-06-2015, 08:50 PM
it is manual
Sorry, I meant a traditional manual gearbox with a clutch.
But we are splitting hairs now :)
mattCSLnut
12-06-2015, 09:25 PM
Maybe I'm wrong then gents. But, most cars that appreciate tend to be a manual transmission.
But, who knows.
Buy one and enjoy it :)
There's no maybe about it ;) 99.9 % of CSL owners get on with SMG after a few weeks of training ;)
It compliments and ads to the whole CSL experience :supz: and as Shimmy already said CSL is a Manual... it's what the M in SMG stands for :whistle:
s.mac
12-06-2015, 09:27 PM
I would have sold years ago if it was an old school manual
Yanto
12-06-2015, 09:28 PM
Maybe I'm wrong then gents. But, most cars that appreciate tend to be a manual transmission.
But, who knows.
Buy one and enjoy it :)
Enzo
Scud
Spaz
Strad
991 gt3 / RS
918
Laferrari
Ok...high end, but....I wish they did depreciate :smokin:
Yanto
12-06-2015, 09:30 PM
I would have sold years ago if there wasn't a manual seat height adjustment and alcantara cushion option
EFA :whistle:
mattCSLnut
12-06-2015, 09:30 PM
I would have sold years ago if it was an old school manual
:hahaha: :hahaha: :hahaha:
s.mac
12-06-2015, 09:34 PM
I couldn't live without cushions :thumbs:
Yanto
12-06-2015, 09:36 PM
I couldn't live without cushions :thumbs:
:thumbs:
Jonnymaz
13-06-2015, 12:51 AM
I really don't understand the whole SMG thing. As Pops recently experienced, it takes about half a journey before you flip to paddles and never look back.
Does anyone ever use automatic mode? The only fault is the fact that it starts in fully automatic each time!
It is manual but without having to take your hands off the steering wheel, what more do you need?
billyboysm3
13-06-2015, 01:03 PM
If you want a decent Csl that has been serviced properly with mint interior and exterior, and mechanically sound it's going to cost big dosh. I'd rather buy one with 80k miles from one of my mates off here than take a punt on one I know nothing about and end up with a engine rebuild and cracked floor..
There are some dogs about.
mattCSLnut
13-06-2015, 05:40 PM
Spot On Billy :smt023 All the best & well known CSLs will always be advertised on here first :smokin:
cslsuperfan
13-06-2015, 06:24 PM
If you want a decent Csl that has been serviced properly with mint interior and exterior, and mechanically sound it's going to cost big dosh. I'd rather buy one with 80k miles from one of my mates off here than take a punt on one I know nothing about and end up with a engine rebuild and cracked floor..
There are some dogs about.
Wise words Billy.
A "register" car is a better route to purchasing a quality CSL.
It's just the simple task of tempting someone to sell!!
LHutchin
13-06-2015, 08:36 PM
One - 32k miles SG £53k
One - 62k miles SB £35k
One - 25k miles SG £????
Where is the 25k for sale please?
nw942
13-06-2015, 10:45 PM
I think it's the Avantgarde one.
http://www.cslregister.com/forum/showthread.php?t=13120
LHutchin
14-06-2015, 12:21 AM
I think it's the Avantgarde one.
http://www.cslregister.com/forum/showthread.php?t=13120
Thanks
They told me it had sold ages ago ?
CraigMillwardCroft
14-06-2015, 10:55 AM
If you want a decent Csl that has been serviced properly with mint interior and exterior, and mechanically sound it's going to cost big dosh. I'd rather buy one with 80k miles from one of my mates off here than take a punt on one I know nothing about and end up with a engine rebuild and cracked floor..
There are some dogs about.
Sounds like you are getting ready to sell :whistle:
billyboysm3
14-06-2015, 12:03 PM
Do you know what Craig. I was all set to sell her. But after driving it everyday and then thinking with all the bits it's had I've got a new car.
Baby number 2 on route so it will just have to stay tucked up for another year or more.
s1csl
14-06-2015, 07:38 PM
Sounds like you are getting ready to sell :whistle:
I think he will Craig if someone offered over £42k ;)
billyboysm3
15-06-2015, 12:33 PM
I think he will Craig if someone offered over £42k ;)
have to higher than that, unless I take off airbox.
These are heading the right way
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds?Category=used-cars&M=924&Page=1&SortOptions=PriceHighToLow
I think I got mine at the right time :whistle:
I think I got mine at the right time :whistle:
It's not selling though is it ?
It's not selling though is it ?
If you mean am I selling it, not a chance!
Only got it 6 weeks ago.
I think I got mine at the right time :whistle:
No the 18,000 mile car !
No the 18,000 mile car !
Sorry bud, misunderstood you.
Cosworth50
20-06-2015, 03:26 PM
Hi all,
If any more of you are thinking of selling please PM me your location, price and full details of the car. I'd like a CSL :)
Many thanks
CraigMillwardCroft
20-06-2015, 03:58 PM
Hi all,
If any more of you are thinking of selling please PM me your location, price and full details of the car. I'd like a CSL :)
Many thanks
Did you miss the other one or decide other wise :thumbs:Is it the one on ebay.
Sorry bud, misunderstood you.
No worries
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