Advice please

[Diamondgeezer]

Hi all
I posted a few weeks back that I'm looking for a csl

I have just been to see a car and would like to hear your views
The car seems very straight and only has a few stone chips to the front and the front wheel arches have some suface rust

The interior is ok but the steering wheel could do with a retrim but other wise it's ok

The main issue is the service history
There are 7 previous owners but their is no corresponding paper work for the
First 5 owners or before 2009
The service book has been stamped and all the services seem to have been done at main dealers and lately at specialists

It's also now on its 4th different reg number
The mileage is at 73k and I can find nothing to show any major works have been done
The guy who is selling seems honest and I'm sure isn't trying to hide anything
Is it possible to get the service details from BMW ?
I'm planning on getting the car inspected at Bartlett including compression test prior to me handing over any money
Your thoughts please
Cheers

[Scott]

The car seems very straight and only has a few stone chips to the front and the front wheel arches have some suface rust

If you can see the rust then I would budget for 2 new wings unless it's an 2004 car which comes with a 12 year paint warranty. Either way, it's a common problem on all E46 M3's.

The interior is ok but the steering wheel could do with a retrim but other wise it's ok

It's done 73k miles so I wouldn't be surprised at this, try giving it a good clean before going for a retrim.

The main issue is the service history
There are 7 previous owners but their is no corresponding paper work for the
First 5 owners or before 2009
The service book has been stamped and all the services seem to have been done at main dealers and lately at specialists

I wouldn't worry about 7 owners, these cars tend to go through a lot of owners as people like to tick them off their 'bucket list' before moving on. If the car was sold by BMW in 2009 then you won't have any paperwork as they don't pass this on to the new owner due to confidentiality reasons.

It's also now on its 4th different reg number

So what?

The mileage is at 73k and I can find nothing to show any major works have been done

Not all cars will have the same problems so this could be a 'good one' or that it was all done prior to 2009.

The guy who is selling seems honest and I'm sure isn't trying to hide anything
Is it possible to get the service details from BMW ?

I managed to get all the work that was carried out on my partners X1 printed off but the car was only 2 years old when she bought it so it's likely that no work was carried out before she got it. If you don't ask you don't get....

I'm planning on getting the car inspected at Bartlett including compression test prior to me handing over any money

Definietely. They will identify any parts that need replacing so could save you in the long run.

[shimmy]

if you PM me all the private and non private reg numbers ill check to see if any history is on the register

[Diamondgeezer]

if you PM me all the private and non private reg numbers ill check to see if any history is on the register

PM sent

[Rick H]

Must be this one?

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/bmw/e46-m3-00-06/bmw-3-series-e46-m3-csl------------------2003/4131738

Edit: ah, maybe not - not enough owners.

[Diamondgeezer]

Must be this one?

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/bmw/e46-m3-00-06/bmw-3-series-e46-m3-csl------------------2003/4131738

Edit: ah, maybe not - not enough owners.

It's not that one
The cars not advertised for sale anywhere at the moment

[s.mac]

You can call bmw for full history, it used to be free, I think it's £1 per min on the new number. I'm not 100% but there is deffo a dedicated line. You will need the chassis number.

[s.mac]

You could also ask a friendly service manager, although they shouldn't really give you the info.

[Diamondgeezer]

You can call bmw for full history, it used to be free, I think it's £1 per min on the new number. I'm not 100% but there is deffo a dedicated line. You will need the chassis number.

Thanks I'll give it a try tomorrow

[Diamondgeezer]

Also forgot to mention that the front and rear carbon parts have blisters/scratches on them
Can these be repaired or I'm I looking at replacements ?

[Neil M]

Also forgot to mention that the front and rear carbon parts have blisters/scratches on them
Can these be repaired or I'm I looking at replacements ?
Sounds like a job for Mark.csl, he'll have them looking like new in no time. :thumbs:

[nw99]

Go for it

[Diamondgeezer]

Sounds like a job for Mark.csl, he'll have them looking like new in no time. :thumbs:

Yeah just been trawling through some old threads and seems like a repair is an option
Didn't see anyone mention the rear diffuser being repaired though
But I guess it's the same process

[Neil M]

If it's made from Carbon Fibre - Marks the chap to sort it. :supz:

[Mark CSL]

Yip i can repair carbon :whistle:

[Andyk]

Hi all
I posted a few weeks back that I'm looking for a csl

I have just been to see a car and would like to hear your views
The car seems very straight and only has a few stone chips to the front and the front wheel arches have some surface rust

The interior is ok but the steering wheel could do with a retrim but other wise it's ok

The main issue is the service history
There are 7 previous owners but their is no corresponding paper work for the
First 5 owners or before 2009
The service book has been stamped and all the services seem to have been done at main dealers and lately at specialists

It's also now on its 4th different reg number
The mileage is at 73k and I can find nothing to show any major works have been done
The guy who is selling seems honest and I'm sure isn't trying to hide anything
Is it possible to get the service details from BMW ?
I'm planning on getting the car inspected at Bartlett including compression test prior to me handing over any money
Your thoughts please
Cheers


Hi Spencer if this is my old car then this is what I know.....

I bought it private in 2009 from a chap Birmingham way. He had it on plate H13 CSL

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e113/Andkexige/T7P_0366.jpg (http://s38.photobucket.com/user/Andkexige/media/T7P_0366.jpg.html)

If my memory serves me right it had 60k on the clock when I bought it. I then changed the plate to K33 WEL.

I had the car for just over a year I think and had it serviced once at Cotswald Gloucester. Think it was an inspection 2 but I could be wrong it may have been 1. I never had any other work done on the car and it was faultless for the time I had it....The only other work I did was to have the wheels refurbed and the the front splitter relacquered as it was faded. I was the 6th owner of the car and it had a full service history stamped in the book I believe. I sold it to a friends garage in Chepstow and a local chap bought it I believe. I saw it at my mates garage having work done to it a few times and I was gutted as the chap just didn't seem to look after it..., if was just dirty, stone chips, front splinter cracked....He was the type of person that just drove the car and didn't care about it being clean and shiny. If its the same chap he may have receipts for work at Parva cars, St Avrans as when I sold it a month or so later it needed a new clutch so pretty sure this was changed in 2010ish.

I was gutted seeing it unloved especially as when I had her it was like this....

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e113/Andkexige/PictureMaserati013-1.jpg (http://s38.photobucket.com/user/Andkexige/media/PictureMaserati013-1.jpg.html)

I did around 4 track days in her and she was faultless.....From what you say she hasn't been looked after cosmetically and from what I say after this could well be my car. I sold it with 67k on the clock so they haven't done many miles in 5 years or so. I bought the car fro 26k back then and sold it for 27k so prices were on the up back then......Hope this helps.......

[Diamondgeezer]

Many thanks Andy
It's such a shame that it's lost it's way a little
But it's certainly nothing that can't be fixed with a little TLC (and a pile of cash)
I think under the skin it's a good honest car
I can't find any evidence of a new clutch but that's not to say it wasn't done and I guess it would be obvious if it hadn't been changed
Let's hope I can get it looking it's former glory :beer:

[Yanto]

Hi Spencer if this is my old car then this is what I know.....

I bought it private in 2009 from a chap Birmingham way. He had it on plate H13 CSL

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e113/Andkexige/T7P_0366.jpg (http://s38.photobucket.com/user/Andkexige/media/T7P_0366.jpg.html)

If my memory serves me right it had 60k on the clock when I bought it. I then changed the plate to K33 WEL.

I had the car for just over a year I think and had it serviced once at Cotswald Gloucester. Think it was an inspection 2 but I could be wrong it may have been 1. I never had any other work done on the car and it was faultless for the time I had it....The only other work I did was to have the wheels refurbed and the the front splitter relacquered as it was faded. I was the 6th owner of the car and it had a full service history stamped in the book I believe. I sold it to a friends garage in Chepstow and a local chap bought it I believe. I saw it at my mates garage having work done to it a few times and I was gutted as the chap just didn't seem to look after it..., if was just dirty, stone chips, front splinter cracked....He was the type of person that just drove the car and didn't care about it being clean and shiny. If its the same chap he may have receipts for work at Parva cars, St Avrans as when I sold it a month or so later it needed a new clutch so pretty sure this was changed in 2010ish.

I was gutted seeing it unloved especially as when I had her it was like this....

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e113/Andkexige/PictureMaserati013-1.jpg (http://s38.photobucket.com/user/Andkexige/media/PictureMaserati013-1.jpg.html)

I did around 4 track days in her and she was faultless.....From what you say she hasn't been looked after cosmetically and from what I say after this could well be my car. I sold it with 67k on the clock so they haven't done many miles in 5 years or so. I bought the car fro 26k back then and sold it for 27k so prices were on the up back then......Hope this helps.......

One of my favourite Csl pics

[shimmy]

One of my favourite Csl pics

No spacers!

[Andyk]

No spacers!

I was purely a standard man....You may well remember the ribbing you gave me :hahaha:

[Trawler]

Andy,

Great to see you are still around. Hope you are well & enjoying life. What are you driving now?

Still have your old number. It's on the Mrs car.

Peter

[shimmy]

I was purely a standard man....You may well remember the ribbing you gave me :hahaha:

yep. and that ribbing swapped to Yanto until he finally gave in and travelled 1000miles to get his spacers fitted :thumbs:

[Yanto]

yep. and that ribbing swapped to Yanto until he finally gave in and travelled 1000miles to get his pacers fitted :thumbs:

Fookin cyber bully coooont.....

[Trawler]

yep. and that ribbing swapped to Yanto until he finally gave in and travelled 1000miles to get his pacers fitted :thumbs:

Looks like the baton is coming my way, but with the faster colour who needs spacers

[Andyk]

Looks like my mind is not what it used to be.....But then I am getting an old git......

I bought the car in 2008 and sold 2009 not 2009 and 2010.... and the miles on the car when I sold was 47k not 67k..........

[Andyk]

Andy,

Great to see you are still around. Hope you are well & enjoying life. What are you driving now?

Still have your old number. It's on the Mrs car.

Peter


Hi Peter, all good thanks.......and you....?

Have a BMW 645 ci at the moment soon to be change later this year for a Maserati QP Sport GT...You may remember my passion Maserati as well as M cars.

How's the CSL going my friend....Was looking at those pictures from Goodwood the other week....Our cars looked good together in between all that Italian metal...Plus showed them a thing or tow on track....

[billyboysm3]

I'm standard, no spacers, please don't cyber bully me

[Bealo]

I was purely a standard man....You may well remember the ribbing you gave me :hahaha:

Yes i can remember you getting flack for your standard fetish :whistle:

[CraigMillwardCroft]

I'm standard, no spacers, please don't cyber bully me

You taking the Pi*& :whistle:

[Andyk]

Yes i can remember you getting flack for your standard fetish :whistle:

I remember reading all the threads on upgrades and the thousand that you all spent and asking if you were all shitting money :hahaha: Ah the good old days.

[billyboysm3]

You taking the Pi*& :whistle:

But could be running square set CSL rims?

[Trawler]

Hi Peter, all good thanks.......and you....?

Have a BMW 645 ci at the moment soon to be change later this year for a Maserati QP Sport GT...You may remember my passion Maserati as well as M cars.

How's the CSL going my friend....Was looking at those pictures from Goodwood the other week....Our cars looked good together in between all that Italian metal...Plus showed them a thing or tow on track....

Both Cesil & I good thanks and touch wood it will remain so.

I must admit you have good taste when it comes to a little family run about. Post some pics when you get your Masser. The day at Goodwood with the Masserati boys boys still brings back good memories. It would be nice to attend another if it's not too far from home

[Andyk]

Both Cesil & I good thanks and touch wood it will remain so.

I must admit you have good taste when it comes to a little family run about. Post some pics when you get your Masser. The day at Goodwood with the Masserati boys boys still brings back good memories. It would be nice to attend another if it's not too far from home

If you are interested I organise a gate at the Asda On Your Marks charity event at Brunty every year. Usually get around 20 Maserati on the gate. It's a fantastic day out for all the family. You give passenger rides around the track...so a free track day as such........Loads to do for the family as well....stalls, George clothing sale, rally cars rides, you can drive lorries around track, air displays, stunt displays and more....It's invitation only for the day...

This is a little vid that someone posted on you tube from 2013 of myself in the M3....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aypp7q42WDM

It would be good to get a few CSL on the gate as they would go down well with punters.

[Neil M]

Something to think about? Magnesium wheels as standard! :hahaha:

[Andyk]

Hi Neil, how are you mate.....A chap on the forum has just bought one of those......A modern hatch is quicker but such an event getting in and driving.

[CraigMillwardCroft]

Good video but some strange goings on, planes, tractors and lorries to slide off into. :whistle:

[Andyk]

I know Craig....there is a lot going on.......great event though and all for charity........Think we raised 54k for charity last year......

[Trawler]

Andy,

What date will the event be next year?

[Trawler]

Andy,

What date will the event be next year?

When is it this year if there are still spaces?

[Andyk]

Saturday 8th August and yes places left as only just getting plans together.

Info here my friend...
http://www.sportsmaserati.com/showthread.php/17539-Brunty-On-Your-Marks-8th-Aug-2015-(Who-s-coming)?p=400365#post400365

[Trawler]

Saturday 8th August and yes places left as only just getting plans together.

Info here my friend...
http://www.sportsmaserati.com/showthread.php/17539-Brunty-On-Your-Marks-8th-Aug-2015-(Who-s-coming)?p=400365#post400365

Ok put my name down. Why not start a separate thread to see if you can get some more cesils.

That dragster is going to be a bit of a let down. Some cars there might beat it. :hahaha:

[Andyk]

Thats brilliant......Name down....I'll keep you updated. Will also start a thread a you say......