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Duck egg question alert!!
Apart from weight, what's the advantage with a SuperSprint back box?
Does it turn the car into something that growls along?
I know only too well from the GP that it's easy to end up with a sound that's not what's expected and is disappointing. The only advantage of getting it wrong in the Mini world is that it isn't as expensive!
Rick H
07-05-2015, 03:21 PM
Duck egg question alert!!
Apart from weight, what's the advantage with a SuperSprint back box?
Does it turn the car into something that growls along?
I know only too well from the GP that it's easy to end up with a sound that's not what's expected and is disappointing. The only advantage of getting it wrong in the Mini world is that it isn't as expensive!
I wouldn't worry about the weight - as Shim says, just drive faster!
They sound absolutely epic but not so much as to impact on enjoyment of the car. The slight upsweep on the tailpipe looks good too !
I wouldn't worry about the weight - as Shim says, just drive faster!
They sound absolutely epic but not so much as to impact on enjoyment of the car. The slight upsweep on the tailpipe looks good too !
Thank you,
Not bothered at all re weight, just wondered why they were so highly rated.
Improving the sound without it becoming a pain sounds like the answer I was after :thumbs:
Too easy on car to end up with something that drones more than the other half.
Rick H
07-05-2015, 03:55 PM
Thank you,
Not bothered at all re weight, just wondered why they were so highly rated.
Improving the sound without it becoming a pain sounds like the answer I was after :thumbs:
Too easy on car to end up with something that drones more than the other half.
CSLSuperfan has one on, full system - he's your man but watch out he doesn't infect you with chronic Upgraditus or Black Wheel Syndrome . . . :hahaha:
Supersprint certainly on my list of wants but not just yet.
CSLSuperfan has one on, full system - he's your man but watch out he doesn't infect you with chronic Upgraditus or Black Wheel Syndrome . . . :hahaha:
Supersprint certainly on my list of wants but not just yet.
I had a chronic case of upgraditus when I bought the GP.
On pills now.
jupe777
07-05-2015, 04:18 PM
Open to very sensible offers? It has only covered a few hundred miles.
http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr345/wanabefishing/SS%20backbox_2_zpsovp0ivti.jpg
http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr345/wanabefishing/SS%20backbox_1_zpsfeq6wzem.jpg
If I was currently looking I'd make you an offer.
May be something I'll look at in the future but thanks anyhow.
GLWTS
MisterCorn
07-05-2015, 04:48 PM
What sort of money do these go for? I am interested but have no idea on prices.
MC
Rick H
07-05-2015, 04:54 PM
Open to very sensible offers? It has only covered a few hundred miles.
http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr345/wanabefishing/SS%20backbox_2_zpsovp0ivti.jpg
http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr345/wanabefishing/SS%20backbox_1_zpsfeq6wzem.jpg
Oooooooh I want, I want . . .
Bounce
07-05-2015, 07:02 PM
What sort of money do these go for? I am interested but have no idea on prices.
MCBout £1200 new ;)
mattCSLnut
07-05-2015, 07:57 PM
If I was currently looking I'd make you an offer.
May be something I'll look at in the future but thanks anyhow.
GLWTS
Get it bought pops / Rich H ...SuperSprint Race lightweight back box is one of 3 best add ons you can gift your Cecil :supz: CUPs & BBKs being the others :smokin:
Get it bought pops / Rich H ...SuperSprint Race lightweight back box is one of 3 best add ons you can gift your Cecil :supz: CUPs & BBKs being the others :smokin:
In time, in time.
monkeycsl
07-05-2015, 08:11 PM
Shame they are mig welded and not tig think it makes them look cheap when they are clearly not!
Gruppe M is what you want = epic sound (if not a daily driver and you don't mind scaring people ;))
Bounce
07-05-2015, 08:20 PM
Shame they are mig welded and not tig think it makes them look cheap when they are clearly not!This is better,IMHO of course ;)
Bounce
07-05-2015, 08:22 PM
Agency Power :smokin:
glendog74
07-05-2015, 08:35 PM
Bout £1200 new ;)
4 years ago... :whistle:
glendog74
07-05-2015, 08:37 PM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zhFG2WN5HdY
MisterCorn
07-05-2015, 08:40 PM
One sold for £850 a couple of weeks ago on Cutters, does this dound about right? I fancy something a bit louder but not crazy.
MC
rstoughy
07-05-2015, 09:34 PM
I quite like my........wait for it....................£400 Scorpion back box :bigcry:
You can all laugh but its been on the car 6yrs now and is still spot on :hahaha:
Bounce
07-05-2015, 09:56 PM
4 years ago... :whistle:Not gone up much ;)
Bounce
07-05-2015, 09:58 PM
I quite like my........wait for it....................£400 Scorpion back box :bigcry:
You can all laugh but its been on the car 6yrs now and is still spot on :hahaha:Sounds the business to Paul:thumbs:
Yanto
07-05-2015, 10:53 PM
Bunch of Chavs.....
Bounce
07-05-2015, 11:01 PM
Bunch of Chavs.....How are the pee shooters,time you changed now mate ;)
Yanto
07-05-2015, 11:05 PM
How are the pee shooters,time you changed now mate ;)
OEM all the way mate.....means my car is worth twenty billion groats and the purists are tripping up to buy it off me ;)
still no worries
07-05-2015, 11:18 PM
Just put a super sprint light back box on mine, on A roads or motorway great but around town (below 30 mph you get a bit of a drone) I will say oem back box weights just over a ton.
Bounce
07-05-2015, 11:27 PM
OEM all the way mate.....means my car is worth twenty billion groats and the purists are tripping up to buy it off me ;)i know mate:smt064 .Ive kept my Oem box just incase:thumbs:
khooni
08-05-2015, 12:20 AM
will it pass noise test? what does it register at most trackdays?
cslsuperfan
08-05-2015, 01:27 AM
I wouldn't worry about the weight - as Shim says, just drive faster!
They sound absolutely epic but not so much as to impact on enjoyment of the car. The slight upsweep on the tailpipe looks good too !
Pops
I've quoted one of many threads that deserve a mention.
BBK & Cups will transform your car on the premis that you can actually drive the csl to it's potential.
I have seen this first hand with Shimmy,Baz,Nick J at Spa & Assen
and Glendog,Matt,Karbonkid and several other aggressive drivers @ the Ring.
I am way behind the above but decided sometime ago to festoon my car with numerous add ons just to make me feel better;)
The OEM csl exhaust is magic and does allow you to hear the airbox in its element.
If you've got a hankering to replace the BB, the SS lightweight race is a worthy replacement. A real bonus of the SS BB over other variants is it's a recognised replacement system and therefore odds on to sell quickly should you decide to do so after a period of experimentation.
toenheel
08-05-2015, 08:51 AM
I've got a super sprint fitted and it sounds the dogs. Still have standard exhaust which for a "lightweight" car is hilarious as heavy as hell. Adds a nice amount of bass to the rear as standard sounds too tinny imo.
Chappers
08-05-2015, 10:16 AM
anyone near me (Warwickshire) running a Supersprint I could hear?
Bounce
08-05-2015, 10:22 AM
anyone near me (Warwickshire) running a Supersprint I could hear?You can hear them from the next county.:hahaha:
khooni
08-05-2015, 03:07 PM
track dB.....?
junk to me if can't do bedford or brands GP.
OEM will easily pass, of course for poseurs, it is fine.:whistle:
NB: this post is meant to provoke...................
track dB.....?
junk to me if can't do bedford or brands GP.
OEM will easily pass, of course for poseurs, it is fine.:whistle:
NB: this post is meant to provoke...................
100db @ 6k. It has a tendency to drone at certain speeds
but you soon forget about it when you're not at a steady pace.
mattCSLnut
09-05-2015, 12:28 AM
100db @ 6k. It has a tendency to drone at certain speeds
but you soon forget about it when you're not at a steady pace.
The drone is not speed related but RPM sensitive. The RPM figure to avid is 2500 as this is where Supersprint tends to drone (a bit) but it's nowhere near as bad as MILLTEK lightweight :banghead:
Quick blip down on the SMG paddles and it's gone :supz:
khooni
09-05-2015, 10:31 AM
100db @ 6k. It has a tendency to drone at certain speeds
but you soon forget about it when you're not at a steady pace.
that'll pass brands GP. Thanks.
anyone been thrown off for drive by?
Mike R
10-05-2015, 10:41 AM
I have the full system on mine and it is LOUD and I mean fucking LOUD.
Cold start up wakes the dead and static noise test is 105-106dB depending on how warm it is.
I took it to Bedford once and they just laughed at me :bigcry:.
Passes (just) noisy tracks though (Snetterton, Silverstone etc).
As said the drone is rpm linked, keep above 3000rpm and it goes "quiet" (as in is in you can have a conversation).
I'll dig up my vids.
Snetterton drive by:
http://youtu.be/MT8rlEi-iDo
Cold start (obviously speakers don't give true effect of how loud this is):
http://youtu.be/gc2fXc5VMdw
Silverstone flyby (my favourite - see 50s onwards):
http://youtu.be/V-x_Plc3U5E
0836whimper
10-05-2015, 03:57 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Td-FJ-jkvkE
Bounce
10-05-2015, 04:57 PM
3rd SG one out is me;)with the agency power backbox;)
s1csl
10-05-2015, 11:22 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Td-FJ-jkvkE
Good times on that trip:thumbs:
HFLagos
20-05-2015, 11:40 AM
Backbox and Centre section being fitted next week ;)
mistergav
20-05-2015, 03:00 PM
Backbox and Centre section being fitted next week ;)
Which backbox did you go for Lightweight Race or?
Cheers.
HFLagos
20-05-2015, 04:20 PM
Which backbox did you go for Lightweight Race or?
Cheers.
Yep, the race lightweight :)
cslsuperfan
20-05-2015, 10:07 PM
Backbox and Centre section being fitted next week ;)
Had the resonated centre section for a while and then opted for Non-res.
Neighbours love it!!
HFLagos
21-05-2015, 12:41 PM
Had the resonated centre section for a while and then opted for Non-res.
Neighbours love it!!
Ha! What's the extent of the difference between Res & Non-Res in terms of noise? I was recommended to go Res, but could change I guess as fitting not till next week.
cslsuperfan
21-05-2015, 08:24 PM
Ha! What's the extent of the difference between Res & Non-Res in terms of noise? I was recommended to go Res, but could change I guess as fitting not till next week.
Res X pipe does minimise the boom at 2500 RPM but you soon learn to avoid prolonged periods at that rev range.
Non Res ,IMO, gives a deeper sound but the difference is minimal.
I definitely noticed the difference between the 2 centre sections but that may be down to running the full system.
HFLagos
27-05-2015, 09:28 PM
Centre section and race lightweight backbox fitted today and pretty pleased with the noise. Have been using the guys (Lee and Kevin) at BMS Surrey for work on the CSL recently, really impressed with them. See attached pics of the OEM CSL exhaust, the clamps have gone and so BMS are sorting these out and after some polishing etc I will hold on to exhaust for the future.
HFLagos
27-05-2015, 09:30 PM
Full pic
niceee work, Those guys Lee and Kevin are great guys, known them for a while.
where about in surry are you?
I've not seen another CSL in surrey for a while,
How does the exhaust sound?
Much different form standard?
Regards
Faisal
HFLagos
28-05-2015, 05:42 PM
niceee work, Those guys Lee and Kevin are great guys, known them for a while.
where about in surry are you?
I've not seen another CSL in surrey for a while,
How does the exhaust sound?
Much different form standard?
Regards
Faisal
Hi - will send you PM. Really pleased with sound, but more urgency and directness about it, there is a noticeable difference I felt from standard.
Ignored the basic rule of buying bits which is "don't faff about".
By "faffing" I think I've missed out on the Braille back box for sale elsewhere on here.
Anyhow, it's looking 99.9% like the GP will be driving off into the sunset tomorrow evening which releases a bit more freed up spending stuff :thumbs:
Choices for back boxes seem to be : -
SuperSprint, any sponsors do them? If not, where from?
Agency Power, can't find UK stockist,
Eisenmann, not heard much about them,
GruppeM, can't find UK stockist,
Milltek, was crap on the GP so going nowhere near one.
I reckon I'll settle on a SuperSprint lightweight race back box,
Best place to buy?
kookiemonster5
08-06-2015, 04:55 PM
http://www.exhaust-performance.de
I used this crowd last year and found them excellent! Got the Race box and non res centre section. Back box was out of stock when ordered but he kept me up to date throughout!
He was much cheaper than SuperSprint at the time:
Both of them delivered to my door in Ireland for €1,870!
****On checking his website, he now has a nice package of the Lightweight Race and Non-Res centre for around £1300
http://www.exhaust-performance.de/abverkauf/52123/abverkauf-supersprint-anlage-lightweight-racing-bmw-e46-m3-neu?c=8025
http://www.exhaust-performance.de
I used this crowd last year and found them excellent! Got the Race box and non res centre section. Back box was out of stock when ordered but he kept me up to date throughout!
He was much cheaper than SuperSprint at the time:
Both of them delivered to my door in Ireland for €1,870!
****On checking his website, he now has a nice package of the Lightweight Race and Non-Res centre for around £1300
http://www.exhaust-performance.de/abverkauf/52123/abverkauf-supersprint-anlage-lightweight-racing-bmw-e46-m3-neu?c=8025
Thanks for that.
Mailed them for a price inc UK delivery. Site says free delivery buy doubt it'd be free to here.
EDIT : - 39 euros for UK delivery. Not bad that. once I've waved the GP off up the road I'll order one.
kookiemonster5
08-06-2015, 06:04 PM
Was €40 to Ireland!
How do you find the sound with that set up?
kookiemonster5
08-06-2015, 06:46 PM
AMAZING!
Certainly different to the 'tinny' sound of the stock setup. Its a much deeper sound with a definite growl. I cant say how it sounds with only the back box fitted as they were both put on together. Yes you're going to get a drone in the cabin when cruising in 6th at 2-2500 RPM, but this doesnt bother me, the car was never built to be quiet anyway!
It definitely screams when climbing the revs and the cold morning rasp is nothing but perfect!
Kind of hard to describe how an exhaust setup sounds, all I can say is go for it, you will not be disappointed at all.
AMAZING!
Certainly different to the 'tinny' sound of the stock setup. Its a much deeper sound with a definite growl. I cant say how it sounds with only the back box fitted as they were both put on together. Yes you're going to get a drone in the cabin when cruising in 6th at 2-2500 RPM, but this doesnt bother me, the car was never built to be quiet anyway!
It definitely screams when climbing the revs and the cold morning rasp is nothing but perfect!
Kind of hard to describe how an exhaust setup sounds, all I can say is go for it, you will not be disappointed at all.
Cheers,
Will be going for the set up in the link you posted :thumbs:
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