996/997 GT3s

[Stumpy]

Who's interested? :hahaha:

I'm very tempted at the moment.

Always wanted Pork, and am in the camp of if I don't do it soon, will I ever do it...? :bigcry:

Anyone else in the same boat?

I'm on the list for a Cayman GT4 but not sure which would be a better car to buy. The GT4 will be brand spanking new of course, and might prove very popular...

[Trawler]

Love the GT3 range, but sticking with cesil made that choose 9 years ago when I could have bought a 996 GT3. What I find interesting is that cesr owners seem to prefer pork over red Fiats Can't remember any Fiats being discussed here.
Can't see why I would buy now when prices have gone very silly.

[philj]

Worth a read
https://grrc.goodwood.com/road/news/porsche-911-gt3-values

[73CSL]

I'm a huge Porsche fan & have 2 aircooled ones :thumbs:

These days the only watercooled 911 I'd have is a GT3 , great cars

But, my CSL has become one of my favorite cars, it does everything I want .... track car ( admitedly only been on track once ) , great yorkshire dales back road blaster ( better than a GT3 probo on these roads due to extra suspension travel, ground clearance etc ) , school run car ( massive boot for the kids bags etc , work car ( everyone thinks its just a silver bmw) , european tourer ( more relaxing for me than my 5 series .. wife thinks the opposite though :banghead: ) etc etc

Think we play down how great the CSL is compared to Pork sometimes

[Stumpy]

Don't disagree with those points at all. I have however always hankered after Pork since childhood. Now that I'm in a position to buy one its all about which one.

For a long time it was obviously a turbo. Now not so much...

[MisterCorn]

Don't disagree with those points at all. I have however always hankered after Pork since childhood. Now that I'm in a position to buy one its all about which one.

For a long time it was obviously a turbo. Now not so much...

I love my 996 turbo. Around 650hp. 60-100mph in 3.1s in 3rd. It is nuts.

MC

[Trawler]

Don't disagree with those points at all. I have however always hankered after Pork since childhood. Now that I'm in a position to buy one its all about which one.

For a long time it was obviously a turbo. Now not so much...

Ah, the 930 turbo. Had a picture fixed to my file when I was at college. Always wanted one then and a few years afterwards, but not interested in owning one anymore. Still brings back memories when I think/see one.

[73CSL]

had a 996 turbo, running around 520bhp .. & that was stupid quick ... god knows what over 600bhp must be like :supz:

With hindsight I should have bought a GT3 as they are much more my kind of car / drive , but I needed rear seats for the kids ( these can be retro fitted to a 996 gt3 )

[khooni]

i am on the list for 1 too. Am no.1 at opc cardiff

[GregorJP]

I've spent several months agonising over this question, to the extent of viewing, test-driving and, in one case (and annoyingly for the seller, no doubt) putting down a deposit on a 997.2 GT3 on the Friday morning only to ask for it back on the Friday afternoon. The conclusions I came to were:

- GT3s were looking over-valued and I thought they might pop.

- If they kept going up in price, I'd be less willing to drive and enjoy it (an issue I have begun to feel with the CSL, in fairness).

- To enjoy the car properly, I'd need to be able to take the family on road trips or it would have to be purely a toy, and would get driven perhaps once a month or so.

I ended up buying a stage 4 GTR with lots of toys from Litchfield for just over half the price of the GT3 I was looking at. Although it's a nice car and will not lose money hand over fist, it's no GT3 in engineering terms and I don't feel that I need to treat it with kid gloves. It's practical for the family, I put the miles on it if I feel like it and, in performance terms (with the LM suspension especially), it would brutalise a GT3 in most circumstances.

BUT

The GT3 is still more desirable and this thread just made me look again at 997.2 GT3 prices. Save for one example, I think I would have made an easy £10k if I had have bought the one I looked at 6 months ago. Tellingly, JZM have hardly any at all for sale, and if there were any out there, they would have them. Oh well, you win some...:whistle:

[GregorJP]

PS: I should also confess that I've put down an LOI for a new 991 GT3 RS, which I don't dream that Porsche will sell to me (given that they are such sniffy wankers about how they treat their customers for new GT3s generally), but let's see.

[Trawler]

PS: I should also confess that I've put down an LOI for a new 991 GT3 RS, which I don't dream that Porsche will sell to me (given that they are such sniffy wankers about how they treat their customers for new GT3s generally), but let's see.

:drool: What more is there to say.

[Stumpy]

PS: I should also confess that I've put down an LOI for a new 991 GT3 RS, which I don't dream that Porsche will sell to me (given that they are such sniffy wankers about how they treat their customers for new GT3s generally), but let's see.

Wow.
I've done the same for the Cayman GT4, but am not hopeful. I'm also on the list for an M2 GTS...

I'm likely to buy a GT3 shortly I think. I don't mind how little I use it as it only weekends regardless of the car. Four sets would be nice but am looking at the CS. Am also considering one from Europe to buy better...

Understand entirely your points re value and enjoyment but its a scratch I need itch.

Not sure how much 'better' it'll be over the CSL but we'll see.

I have a buyer lined up for the CSL already do we'll see...

[MisterCorn]

I thought all GT3s were 2 seats. They were type approved as 2 seats so adding an extra 2 could cause insurance issues. I have not verified this, just thought I would make you aware.

MC

[Stumpy]

I thought all GT3s were 2 seats. They were type approved as 2 seats so adding an extra 2 could cause insurance issues. I have not verified this, just thought I would make you aware.

MC

4 seats would prove useful but I don't need them as the car is a weekend toy really.
A CS specs would be ideal...

[DazBlackCSL]

Just read that article .. Think he must of read my thread !

This situation seems a little odd to a chap who lost the thick end of £10k in one year on a 997 GT3 gen 1 between spring 2010 and 2011.

[GregorJP]

4 seats would prove useful but I don't need them as the car is a weekend toy really.
A CS specs would be ideal...

JZM told me they could retro-fit rear seats and seat belts into a GT3 Comfort, which would suit my purposes. In any case, it's all academic now. To console myself about the possible lack of value increase I would have seen with a GT3, I got downpipes fitted to my GTR so that it spits flame :supz:

[Stumpy]

JZM told me they could retro-fit rear seats and seat belts into a GT3 Comfort, which would suit my purposes. In any case, it's all academic now. To console myself about the possible lack of value increase I would have seen with a GT3, I got downpipes fitted to my GTR so that it spits flame :supz:


You could have managed that by simply changing the fuelling in the map. Its an easy fix for a mapper who know what they're doing... Would have saved yourself quite a bit I'd have thought, but the larger bore pipes will move exhaust gas quicker which means better bhp generally...

[GregorJP]

You could have managed that by simply changing the fuelling in the map. Its an easy fix for a mapper who know what they're doing... Would have saved yourself quite a bit I'd have thought, but the larger bore pipes will move exhaust gas quicker which means better bhp generally...

Even with an aggressive map, it's difficult to get flame without downpipes - when I bought the car from Litchfield, I asked them to throw in their upgraded bellhousing. At that point, adding the downpipes is very little extra labour. Add the pops and bangs map, and whoof.

Plus I wanted the car to be ready to accept larger turbos (ie. stage 4.5) if I decided to upgrade. As it is, the car is way faster than I am as a driver. I'm planning on some CAT training as my next upgrade.

[Stumpy]

Have heard one on full chat in 2nd gear. God knows how fast it was moving by then, but the noise... Oh...my...lord.

To this day, I haven't heard anything so bonkers. Even the CSL...

[stradman]

JZM told me they could retro-fit rear seats and seat belts into a GT3 Comfort, which would suit my purposes. In any case, it's all academic now. To console myself about the possible lack of value increase I would have seen with a GT3, I got downpipes fitted to my GTR so that it spits flame :supz:
Yes I have had belts put in the back of my 997.1 GT3 Comfort so can use for occasional short journeys for the kids. Interestingly you cant do this for a 997.2 as the fixing points are not present as it has a slightly different subframe apparently.

[Clubber]

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[Stumpy]

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