" Clubber's CSL Journal "

[Clubber]

Hey Everyone,

This is a mini journal of my CSL. Will try to update as I go along with info that would hopefully be helpful to all of us.

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After carefully reading every track addicts choices and advices, I decided to go for a lightweight 18" track wheels and Cups for my track work. And use the 19" CSL's with Michelin Super Sports (Awesome in the rain btw). I just heat cycled them for 15 min of moderate twisty driving and will be parked till tomorrow for the full effect.

They are 18x9 ET40 OZ Ultraleggera wrapped in 265/35/18 Michelin Cups. 10mm Spacer in the front and 20mm in the back. Will try them this weekend at the track looking forward for my first CUP experience.

Here are a couple shots, will add more after the track day. Thanks for looking.

http://i593.photobucket.com/albums/tt18/TheSultan2/FullSizeRender2_zps8f7fd602.jpg (http://s593.photobucket.com/user/TheSultan2/media/FullSizeRender2_zps8f7fd602.jpg.html)

http://i593.photobucket.com/albums/tt18/TheSultan2/FullSizeRender1_zps50a2f337.jpg (http://s593.photobucket.com/user/TheSultan2/media/FullSizeRender1_zps50a2f337.jpg.html)

http://i593.photobucket.com/albums/tt18/TheSultan2/FullSizeRender_zps5cf2a761.jpg (http://s593.photobucket.com/user/TheSultan2/media/FullSizeRender_zps5cf2a761.jpg.html)

[Scott]

Very nice :thumbs:

[glendog74]

Looks great Can :thumbs:

[Brandtner]

Looks great :)

[DazBlackCSL]

Nice :beer:

[azrael]

Wheels look great

whats the overall weight difference & cost versus standard 19's with cups

[Clubber]

Very nice :thumbs:
Thanks
Looks great Can :thumbs:
Thanks Rob. Should I paint them red :) ?
Looks great :)
Thank you
Nice :beer:
Thanks.
Wheels look great

whats the overall weight difference & cost versus standard 19's with cups

Thanks.

Wheels weigh 8.7kg each compared to 12.6kg and 13.8kg for CSLs.
I forgot to put them on a scale with the tires but will do on Monday when I take them off and switch back to CSL'S with Michelin SS. I'll update this thread with exact weights of both setup.

The weight will be a nice difference but, my main reason for this setup was cost and to eliminate slight understeer with wider fronts. Since this is a square setup, you can rotate the wheels front and back, left and right. Hence longer life (At least thats the plan)

With OEM CSL setup, cups cost around %15 more (might me different in UK or other countries) and you can only switch left to right. Not to mention the 18 sizes are much easier to find.

[azrael]

Thanks

Thanks Rob. Should I paint them red :) ?

Thank you

Thanks.


Thanks.

Wheels weigh 8.7kg each compared to 12.6kg and 13.8kg for CSLs.
I forgot to put them on a scale with the tires but will do on Monday when I take them off and switch back to CSL'S with Michelin SS. I'll update this thread with exact weights of both setup.

The weight will be a nice difference but, my main reason for this setup was cost and to eliminate slight understeer with wider fronts. Since this is a square setup, you can rotate the wheels front and back, left and right. Hence longer life (At least thats the plan)

With OEM CSL setup, cups cost around %15 more (might me different in UK or other countries) and you can only switch left to right. Not to mention the 18 sizes are much easier to find.

Great thanks for the response :tu

[pinkpanther008]

Clubber,

Car looks great, havent seen it cruising the streets when ive been in the city, where abouts are you based?

PP

[Clubber]

Great thanks for the response :tu
Your welcome.
Clubber,

Car looks great, havent seen it cruising the streets when ive been in the city, where abouts are you based?

PP

Thanks PP. It's more like a weekend and track car so would be a slim shot to see it around actually. I am located in Istanbul on the European side but let me know next time you are around, I'd be happy to show her to you.

[mattCSLnut]

Looks good Can :thumbs: when do the BREMBOs get bolted On ? :whistle:

[Clubber]

Looks good Can :thumbs: when do the BREMBOs get bolted On ? :whistle:

Hey Matt. I still can't find a proper 996 set. I'm afraid I'll have to save up and go for the "do it once do it right, AP" route. As with the cups and 18"s. The car will be needing proper stopping power.

But who knows, if I find a suprisingly well priced set of brembo's I might think again :)

[Clubber]

Quick Update,

I had a wonderful track day at Istanbul Park yesterday thanks to my new setup. This was my fist experience with cups let alone on a CSL and I must say, WOW ! What a difference ! It is a whole other car with these.

Combined with lightweight square setup I was able to best my previous time by 6 seconds ! That is a HUGE improvement considering it is a 2 minute circuit over there. Super happy.

I just took them off and stored them for their winter sleep and put the CSL's back on. OZ's will be back on when the trackday season starts early march.

Just a quick question guys;
Should I just rotate them front to back or also cross switch ? Like front left to rear right and vice versa ?

[mattCSLnut]

Quick Update,

I had a wonderful track day at Istanbul Park yesterday thanks to my new setup. This was my fist experience with cups let alone on a CSL and I must say, WOW ! What a difference ! It is a whole other car with these.

Combined with lightweight square setup I was able to best my previous time by 6 seconds ! That is a HUGE improvement considering it is a 2 minute circuit over there. Super happy.
Welcome to the Dark side mate :supz: Mine's been exclusively on CUPS since 2011 :smokin:


I just took them off and stored them for their winter sleep and put the CSL's back on. OZ's will be back on when the trackday season starts early march.

Just a quick question guys;
Should I just rotate them front to back or also cross switch ? Like front left to rear right and vice versa ?

As CUPs are an Asymmetric tyre it's possible to that so to get the most mileage & life out of them I'd say Yes :beer:
Just make sure you inflate them to 26 psi (1.8 bar) cold for Track work.

[billyboysm3]

I always rotate front to rear after each TD.

I found you then get even wear.

[shimmy]

I always rotate front to rear after each TD.

I found you then get even wear.

strange thing now is that i dont need to.....somehow ive managed to get front and rear Cup wear even. Also coz of the variety fo tracks ive found that left right wear isnt much different either.

[Clubber]

Welcome to the Dark side mate :supz: Mine's been exclusively on CUPS since 2011 :smokin:




As CUPs are an Asymmetric tyre it's possible to that so to get the most mileage & life out of them I'd say Yes :beer:
Just make sure you inflate them to 26 psi (1.8 bar) cold for Track work.

I always rotate front to rear after each TD.

I found you then get even wear.
So which one is it guys. Only front to back or also cross switch ?
strange thing now is that i dont need to.....somehow ive managed to get front and rear Cup wear even. Also coz of the variety fo tracks ive found that left right wear isnt much different either.
The only track worth doing is Istanbul Park F1 Circuit here. The other local track is only a 1.2mile small loop and not fun at all. Istanbul park is a counter clockwise circuit with many fast corners (famous turn 8) leaning the car on rights. Hence my opinion for right to left switch.

[mattCSLnut]

So which one is it guys. Only front to back or also cross switch ?


Cross switch will be fine :thumbs: as Mich. CUPs are not directional so will fit any corner/side of the car so long as they are fitted onto the wheels correctly ;)

[Clubber]

Finally had a chance to compare the oem wheel and tire setup with OZ and Cups,

OEM Front :

http://i593.photobucket.com/albums/tt18/TheSultan2/FullSizeRender%201_zpst9s8ywkg.jpg (http://s593.photobucket.com/user/TheSultan2/media/FullSizeRender%201_zpst9s8ywkg.jpg.html)

OEM Rear :

http://i593.photobucket.com/albums/tt18/TheSultan2/FullSizeRender_zpslmqwzzmu.jpg (http://s593.photobucket.com/user/TheSultan2/media/FullSizeRender_zpslmqwzzmu.jpg.html)

OZ Ultraleggera and Michelin Cups (265/35/18 Square Setup) :

http://i593.photobucket.com/albums/tt18/TheSultan2/FullSizeRender%202_zpsnk1vqftk.jpg (http://s593.photobucket.com/user/TheSultan2/media/FullSizeRender%202_zpsnk1vqftk.jpg.html)

So that's 1.2kg savings in the front and 3.1kg at the rears. Not bad considering 18 cups are really heavier then 19's. So far very happy with the results and the difference in handling is noticeable.

BTW, a bonus overall weight pic. Stock car, stock rims only mod is KW CS, 1453kg with full tank and tire mobility kit etc.

http://i593.photobucket.com/albums/tt18/TheSultan2/FullSizeRender%203_zpsxcgnrcat.jpg (http://s593.photobucket.com/user/TheSultan2/media/FullSizeRender%203_zpsxcgnrcat.jpg.html)

I know I need corner balancing. The car will go on a nice diet next week with AP's, Ti Exhaust, Rear seat delete, braille etc and then corner balance before Istanbul Park outing. I'll share each weight savings here.

[Clubber]

Decided to turn this wheel thread to a journal of my car.

Last week I installed AP's with RS29's with huge thanks to Martin from MS Motorsport. Its been a very easy transaction throughout :thumbs:

Here is the good stuff waiting to go in the car,

http://i593.photobucket.com/albums/tt18/TheSultan2/IMG_0552_zpsceaerf4b.jpg (http://s593.photobucket.com/user/TheSultan2/media/IMG_0552_zpsceaerf4b.jpg.html)

And on,

http://i593.photobucket.com/albums/tt18/TheSultan2/image4_zpsbgwh8yml.jpeg (http://s593.photobucket.com/user/TheSultan2/media/image4_zpsbgwh8yml.jpeg.html)

http://i593.photobucket.com/albums/tt18/TheSultan2/image2_zps9dtuefkl.jpeg (http://s593.photobucket.com/user/TheSultan2/media/image2_zps9dtuefkl.jpeg.html)

Needed to trim rear disc dust shields but a small price to pay for this look :)

http://i593.photobucket.com/albums/tt18/TheSultan2/image3_zpsg0jagn43.jpeg (http://s593.photobucket.com/user/TheSultan2/media/image3_zpsg0jagn43.jpeg.html)

http://i593.photobucket.com/albums/tt18/TheSultan2/image6_zpsvrfmheby.jpeg (http://s593.photobucket.com/user/TheSultan2/media/image6_zpsvrfmheby.jpeg.html)

http://i593.photobucket.com/albums/tt18/TheSultan2/image7_zps5ykfxnie.jpeg (http://s593.photobucket.com/user/TheSultan2/media/image7_zps5ykfxnie.jpeg.html)

http://i593.photobucket.com/albums/tt18/TheSultan2/image8_zpsxf0ar9lq.jpeg (http://s593.photobucket.com/user/TheSultan2/media/image8_zpsxf0ar9lq.jpeg.html)

And after the initial bedding in process, I must say, WOW ! They are not brakes these are anchors !!! Once they are up to temperature, they are all they were hyped to be ! Cost a small fortune but totally transformed the car. Can't wait to try them on the track next weekend.

[Clubber]

Today I fitted the JIC Cross full Titanium Rear Box. It is incredibly light. Weighted both oem and Cross. OEM Backbox was 25.5.kg and Cross was 7.6 kg !!! A saving of almost 18kgs !! WOW ! It looks slightly boy racer with burned tips but they are mostly hidden from the diffuser too.

It sounds slightly bassier than oem but starts to shriek as rpms go but of course it is inaudible once the airbox kicks in ! I don't know if its me but I felt a slight improve on performance. Maybe from the wieght savings or maybe from the system. Overall very happy with it !

JIC Magic Cross Ti Exhaust,

http://i593.photobucket.com/albums/tt18/TheSultan2/image10_zpsyosocirg.jpeg (http://s593.photobucket.com/user/TheSultan2/media/image10_zpsyosocirg.jpeg.html)

Look at the size difference compared to OEM crate !

http://i593.photobucket.com/albums/tt18/TheSultan2/image11_zpsqbkkffzb.jpeg (http://s593.photobucket.com/user/TheSultan2/media/image11_zpsqbkkffzb.jpeg.html)

And here it is on the car,

http://i593.photobucket.com/albums/tt18/TheSultan2/image12_zpsxnzwgz3f.jpeg (http://s593.photobucket.com/user/TheSultan2/media/image12_zpsxnzwgz3f.jpeg.html)

http://i593.photobucket.com/albums/tt18/TheSultan2/image13_zpskep0nypf.jpeg (http://s593.photobucket.com/user/TheSultan2/media/image13_zpskep0nypf.jpeg.html)

I will try to upload a video when I can..

[Bounce]

Like it :thumbs:

[alexk]

Very nice brakes !

A question though.
Your suspension is the KW clubsport right ?

Why the helper spring is down and not up ?
From the factory they come with the helper spring up, just under the top mount.

[Clubber]

Like it :thumbs:

Thanks.

Very nice brakes !

A question though.
Your suspension is the KW clubsport right ?

Why the helper spring is down and not up ?
From the factory they come with the helper spring up, just under the top mount.

Great spotting Alex.

We switched the springs for shorter ones to be able to fit my track wheels without spacer but somehow in all that russ my mechanic accidentaly left the helper at the bottom and forgot to pull it up before putting in the new spring.

He said it wouldn't make any difference when we found out so we didn't fix it and so far so good. What do you think ? Would it affect the handling etc. ?

[GregorFuk]

Thanks.



Great spotting Alex.

We switched the springs for shorter ones to be able to fit my track wheels without spacer but somehow in all that russ my mechanic accidentaly left the helper at the bottom and forgot to pull it up before putting in the new spring.

He said it wouldn't make any difference when we found out so we didn't fix it and so far so good. What do you think ? Would it affect the handling etc. ?

Helper spring only there to stop the main spring from rattling around on full droop. So no, should not make any odds whether it's at the top or bottom.

[Clubber]

Helper spring only there to stop the main spring from rattling around on full droop. So no, should not make any odds whether it's at the top or bottom.

That's a relief Gregor, Thanks..

[khooni]

love the exhaust. 18kg is a lot of savings. pls let us know how loud (i.e. decibels it is)

[alexk]

Helper spring only there to stop the main spring from rattling around on full droop. So no, should not make any odds whether it's at the top or bottom.

Concur, no issues :thumbs:

[glendog74]

Your car looks great now Can - well sorted :thumbs:

[CraigMillwardCroft]

Nice stuff just need to clean the front springs :whistle:

[mattCSLnut]

Your car looks great now Can - well sorted :thumbs:
+ 1 :smokin: just be careful with the "Monster" Aps and wear a seat belt so they don't chuck you through the windscreen ;) :hahaha:

[Clubber]

love the exhaust. 18kg is a lot of savings. pls let us know how loud (i.e. decibels it is)
It is a massive saving indeed. I don't have access to decibelmeter but I can tell they are slightly louder than stock, more like SS Sport. I only heard from the inside of course, I'll be at the track next week and will have a few videos from the outside and give you all a preview.
Your car looks great now Can - well sorted :thumbs:
Thanks Rob.
Nice stuff just need to clean the front springs :whistle:
I was about to but then I chickened out from affecting the brake bedding from pressurized water. Silly I know :)
+ 1 :smokin: just be careful with the "Monster" Aps and wear a seat belt so they don't chuck you through the windscreen ;) :hahaha:
My first attempt on a heavy brake was shocking. I thought I got stuck in a swamp ! Damn ! Instant stopping power !

[Clubber]

Since I have Red AP's now, I thought it would look silly on red wheels. So, I decided to paint the OZ's again. Couldn't decide between gunmetal or bronze so cooked up a "in between" color. I call it BronzeMetal :) What do you all think ?

http://i593.photobucket.com/albums/tt18/TheSultan2/IMG_0987_zpsstvhnttz.jpg (http://s593.photobucket.com/user/TheSultan2/media/IMG_0987_zpsstvhnttz.jpg.html)

http://i593.photobucket.com/albums/tt18/TheSultan2/IMG_0988_zpsuscyeb7z.jpg (http://s593.photobucket.com/user/TheSultan2/media/IMG_0988_zpsuscyeb7z.jpg.html)

[0-60Motorsports]

Looks fantastic.

[Clubber]

Looks fantastic.

Thanks a lot my friend. Can't wait to put them on for this weekends track day.

Next up is rear seat delete and braille battery.

[0-60Motorsports]

Thanks a lot my friend. Can't wait to put them on for this weekends track day.

Next up is rear seat delete and braille battery.

That'll be awesome. look forward to pics and vids.

[mattCSLnut]

Since I have Red AP's now, I thought it would look silly on red wheels. So, I decided to paint the OZ's again. Couldn't decide between gunmetal or bronze so cooked up a "in between" color. I call it BronzeMetal :) What do you all think ?


Looking good Can :thumbs: They'll look even better with some brake dust on them :supz:

[Clubber]

Looking good Can :thumbs: They'll look even better with some brake dust on them :supz:

Thanks Matt. Will post pics once they are on !

[Clubber]

Removed the rear seats today and I'm having a custom cardboard panel made for the opening. Will be covered in Alcantara.

Here is a break down of the weight of the rear seats.

Rear Bench, 6.2kg

http://i593.photobucket.com/albums/tt18/TheSultan2/FullSizeRender_zps6tufylou.jpg (http://s593.photobucket.com/user/TheSultan2/media/FullSizeRender_zps6tufylou.jpg.html)


Small seat back, 3.7kg

http://i593.photobucket.com/albums/tt18/TheSultan2/IMG_1070_zpsg5eua3zy.jpg (http://s593.photobucket.com/user/TheSultan2/media/IMG_1070_zpsg5eua3zy.jpg.html)


Large seat back, 4.0kg

http://i593.photobucket.com/albums/tt18/TheSultan2/IMG_1071_zps6xgpovbj.jpg (http://s593.photobucket.com/user/TheSultan2/media/IMG_1071_zps6xgpovbj.jpg.html)

And the rest (Head rests, seat belt buckles, rear mats), 2.7kg

http://i593.photobucket.com/albums/tt18/TheSultan2/IMG_1072_zpsqnl3o176.jpg (http://s593.photobucket.com/user/TheSultan2/media/IMG_1072_zpsqnl3o176.jpg.html)

Overall 16.6kg. I am guessing the cardboard panel will weigh somewhere between 3-4kg. So a total saving of about 12-13kg. Not bad.

Braille battery will be put in after the seat delete...

[Clubber]

Seat delete panels went in. They turned out heavier than I hoped but I asked a bit extra foam to keep the new exhaust's drone away and it works great. We removed 16.6kg and put back 5.3kg for the panels. 12.3kg loss. Not bad.

http://i593.photobucket.com/albums/tt18/TheSultan2/FullSizeRender_zpstkmbgtmw.jpg (http://s593.photobucket.com/user/TheSultan2/media/FullSizeRender_zpstkmbgtmw.jpg.html)

Next up is Braille battery and then corner balance with the new weights. The rear has visibly lifted after the exhaust and seats, definitely needs a adjustment.

[khooni]

Go on. Throw a cage in.

[Clubber]

Go on. Throw a cage in.

I did consider it but only a rear roll bar doesn't bring any extra rigidity and adds unnecessary weight unless I go full cage which would be pointless and dangerous without a helmet on the streets. Not to mention it brings new expenses like bucket seats, harnesses etc. There is a fine line between a nicely modded CSL and a gutted E46 M3 and I don't want to step in to the modded e46 m3 look. I believe oem seats are a major part of that.

As for looks it looks awesome, I admit. I am trying to improve my laptime with these recent mods at Istanbul Park. Will see this weekend if any of them helped. If/when I see an improvement, I will put the seats back in. They look incomplete like this.

I never appreciated the simple and purposeful design of CSL rear seats untill they were off. Not to mention the tiny gain in weight. It all adds up though.

[cslsuperfan]

I did consider it but only a rear roll bar doesn't bring any extra rigidity and adds unnecessary weight unless I go full cage which would be pointless and dangerous without a helmet on the streets. Not to mention it brings new expenses like bucket seats, harnesses etc. There is a fine line between a nicely modded CSL and a gutted E46 M3 and I don't want to step in to the modded e46 m3 look. I believe oem seats are a major part of that.

As for looks it looks awesome, I admit. I am trying to improve my laptime with these recent mods at Istanbul Park. Will see this weekend if any of them helped. If/when I see an improvement, I will put the seats back in. They look incomplete like this.

I never appreciated the simple and purposeful design of CSL rear seats untill they were off. Not to mention the tiny gain in weight. It all adds up though.


Clubber I've gone down a similar route to yourself but pushed on and installed a rear cage, recaro spa's, harnesses etc. Agreed the full cage would give maximum rigidity but the rear cage has certainly transformed the handling in the positive. It may be a touch of placebo with the mods but the car's driving characteristics are vastly improved....as I'm sure you've experienced so far in your modifications.

[Clubber]

Clubber I've gone down a similar route to yourself but pushed on and installed a rear cage, recaro spa's, harnesses etc. Agreed the full cage would give maximum rigidity but the rear cage has certainly transformed the handling in the positive. It may be a touch of placebo with the mods but the car's driving characteristics are vastly improved....as I'm sure you've experienced so far in your modifications.

The rollbar I considered was a bolt-in clubsport model by weichers. When I looked at the mounting points it looked too weak to give any proper strenght. It looked more show than go unless of course you mounted a weldin part which may have helped the handling.

[Clubber]

Finally done with the car for this weekend's track day.

Today we fitted the Braille battery after a frustrating transaction,

http://i593.photobucket.com/albums/tt18/TheSultan2/IMG_1163_zpsuclhjolq.jpg (http://s593.photobucket.com/user/TheSultan2/media/IMG_1163_zpsuclhjolq.jpg.html)

It really is tiny and light. Let's hope it stands more than a week without a charger.

Once all the removing/diet stuff is done, I took the car for final weighting and corner balancing.

Here is the final weight comparison except Braille Battery. It should be 1400kg flat with the light battery. We lost a little more than 50kgs. Not bad considering we didn't gut or strip the car to silly levels.

Before and After,

http://i593.photobucket.com/albums/tt18/TheSultan2/IMG_1126_zpsh8ogbkh8.jpg (http://s593.photobucket.com/user/TheSultan2/media/IMG_1126_zpsh8ogbkh8.jpg.html)

And then we got on to corner balancing. We didn't have too much time but this is what we could do after a few attempts. We'll leave it at this for now.

This is with me in the car. %50.7 Cross.

http://i593.photobucket.com/albums/tt18/TheSultan2/IMG_1136_zpslp0syhvf.jpg (http://s593.photobucket.com/user/TheSultan2/media/IMG_1136_zpslp0syhvf.jpg.html)

And after all said and done, here is how she looks, needs a good wash though ;)

http://i593.photobucket.com/albums/tt18/TheSultan2/FullSizeRender2_zps5ajcqil5.jpg (http://s593.photobucket.com/user/TheSultan2/media/FullSizeRender2_zps5ajcqil5.jpg.html)

Fingers crossed for tomorrow :)

[cslsuperfan]

The rollbar I considered was a bolt-in clubsport model by weichers. When I looked at the mounting points it looked too weak to give any proper strenght. It looked more show than go unless of course you mounted a weldin part which may have helped the handling.


I opted for a fully welded cage. Obviously much more troublesome to reverse but mine is a keeper so I went the whole hog.

[Clubber]

I opted for a fully welded cage. Obviously much more troublesome to reverse but mine is a keeper so I went the whole hog.

Well that's brave ! Isn't it dangerous to drive without a helmet in a full cage ?

[Bounce]

Well that's brave ! Isn't it dangerous to drive without a helmet in a full cage ?Not to him really :clown:

[khooni]

The thing about a full roll cage imo is that you need to have harnesses to hold you in place instead of seat belts and you need to have foam padding. Helmets add extra safety but not needed to be road legal.

And you are correct, clubsport packs in porsches have specific mounts that incorporated with the rear cage adds stiffness but nothing like the strength of a full welded cage. my csl is stiffer than my gt3 rs which is saying a lot.


love the battery install (very neat). i have a braille AGM lightweight B2317RP but not the brackets to hold it in place. do I call Braille for those?

oh and they don't last 1 week... which is why i switched back to oem. The car sits for a max of 2 weeks at a time and no electricity supply to hook up a charger.

[Clubber]

The thing about a full roll cage imo is that you need to have harnesses to hold you in place instead of seat belts and you need to have foam padding. Helmets add extra safety but not needed to be road legal.

And you are correct, clubsport packs in porsches have specific mounts that incorporated with the rear cage adds stiffness but nothing like the strength of a full welded cage. my csl is stiffer than my gt3 rs which is saying a lot.


love the battery install (very neat). i have a braille AGM lightweight B2317RP but not the brackets to hold it in place. do I call Braille for those?

oh and they don't last 1 week... which is why i switched back to oem. The car sits for a max of 2 weeks at a time and no electricity supply to hook up a charger.

That is a serious car khooni ! Great job. I bought j hook adapters from braille too. I will keep car on charge when it takes longer than a weekend between starts then. Thanks for the tip.

BTW, all that hard work paid off today ;)

First in class, third in overall behind a 458 Speciale and 991 GT3 !

http://i593.photobucket.com/albums/tt18/TheSultan2/IMG_1202_zpswnnyhxwt.jpg (http://s593.photobucket.com/user/TheSultan2/media/IMG_1202_zpswnnyhxwt.jpg.html)

Still couldn't adapt to AP's. It's harder than it sounds. I either brake too soon or too late. Gotta keep trying. Couldn't improve my best time on that track either although weather was a major factor. My best time came in a nice chilly November track day last year. May heat doesn't help.

[alexk]

Congrats !!!

What suspension are you running ?

[Clubber]

Congrats !!!

What suspension are you running ?

Thanks Alex.

I'm running KW Clubsport with Dry Ring setting and 2.5 front camber at the moment.

[glendog74]

Nice one Can - well done :thumbs:

I like the sun visor by the way :smokin:

[Clubber]

Nice one Can - well done :thumbs:

I like the sun visor by the way :smokin:

Thanks Rob,

Visor sticker is handy as I don't like folding and unfolding the car's visor during the lap, it can get pretty intrusive.

[0-60Motorsports]

Excellent. Well done brother.

[Clubber]

Excellent. Well done brother.

Thanks my friend. Glad you liked it !

[0-60Motorsports]

Thanks my friend. Glad you liked it !

Would love to meet you if I pass by Istanbul one day.

[mattCSLnut]

Belated congrats Can :supz:
Excellent result considering the much newer & vastly more expensive competition :thumbs:
Cecil still track battle fit :smokin: 12 years on.

[cslsuperfan]

Well that's brave ! Isn't it dangerous to drive without a helmet in a full cage ?


Apologies Can, should have read fully welded rear cage.

And yes Brett, us leek munchers don't worry about cages. ;)

[Clubber]

Would love to meet you if I pass by Istanbul one day.
Anytime my friend, just let me know in advance and we can go on a ride with either the CSL or the E30 ;)
Belated congrats Can :supz:
Excellent result considering the much newer & vastly more expensive competition :thumbs:
Cecil still track battle fit :smokin: 12 years on.
Thanks Matt,

She is still up there with the best of them and considering the minor gap between times I think Cesil is still the most go for buck !
Apologies Can, should have read fully welded rear cage.

And yes Brett, us leek munchers don't worry about cages. ;)

No problem :) Roll bar or cage is a no go for me, at least for a while.

[0-60Motorsports]

Thats awesome. E30 M3 please :) I'll have to see when we can come to Turkey for some vacation. If you come to Bahrain let me know.

[Clubber]

Just had my cars featured on Bimmerpost including the CSL,

http://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1161470

[glendog74]

Nice one Can :thumbs:

[Clubber]

Nice one Can :thumbs:

Thanks Rob :thumbs: Its been 17k views and counting :supz:

[Clubber]

Yesterday was a busy day for my Cesil, fitted Radium Oil Catch Can, Powerflex RTAB and Turner Rear Camber Arms.
Oil catch can was a very simple 5 minute job and Radium stuff is first class in look and weight. I will check the can in 1000km to see if it gathers any.

My stock rtab were fine when we removed but I can definitely feel the rear more planted with MUCH less understeer already. I don't know if it is the rtab or the extra camber added by Turner arms (2.05 now, instead of oem 1.5) but handling definitely improved, now I feel like I can feel the benefit of KW CS even better.
Highly recommend the bushes and rear arms. Turner arms were very light as well.

[0-60Motorsports]

Yesterday was a busy day for my Cesil, fitted Radium Oil Catch Can, Powerflex RTAB and Turner Rear Camber Arms.
Oil catch can was a very simple 5 minute job and Radium stuff is first class in look and weight. I will check the can in 1000km to see if it gathers any.

My stock rtab were fine when we removed but I can definitely feel the rear more planted with MUCH less understeer already. I don't know if it is the rtab or the extra camber added by Turner arms (2.05 now, instead of oem 1.5) but handling definitely improved, now I feel like I can feel the benefit of KW CS even better.
Highly recommend the bushes and rear arms. Turner arms were very light as well.

Good choices right there brother. I have RE arms and BW RTAB's and also have the Radium catch can. I did a review on it but someone on here deleted it as I wasnt a paid member. Oh well.... :hahaha:

[Clubber]

Good choices right there brother. I have RE arms and BW RTAB's and also have the Radium catch can. I did a review on it but someone on here deleted it as I wasnt a paid member. Oh well.... :hahaha:

Thanks my friend. I never knew such small changes on cambers would help the handling this much. lesson learned.

[0-60Motorsports]

Thanks my friend. I never knew such small changes on cambers would help the handling this much. lesson learned.

LOL told you. What settings are you running all around? I run -2 alla round with very little toe.

[Clubber]

Hello everyone,

It's been a long time since I posted here.

I recently completed a mini restoration of my CSL and thought you guys might like the video series I made of the progress.

The videos have English subtitles. I hope you enjoy watching them.

M3 CSL RESTORATION (https://youtu.be/wUG3AKSK_hU)

P.S. I would appreicate if the admins could embed into the post.

Thanks.

[0-60Motorsports]

Hello everyone,

It's been a long time since I posted here.

I recently completed a mini restoration of my CSL and thought you guys might like the video series I made of the progress.

The videos have English subtitles. I hope you enjoy watching them.

M3 CSL RESTORATION (https://youtu.be/wUG3AKSK_hU)

P.S. I would appreicate if the admins could embed into the post.

Thanks.

Shame i didnt get the time to come see you last week bro but I will return very soon inshaAllah.

[sailorbaz]

Very cool mate, thank you for completing such a well documented refresh. Loving the red paint on the seat belt buckles, not to mention painting the wheel weights while painting the wheels, very much up my OCD route, 1st class.

[Clubber]

Very cool mate, thank you for completing such a well documented refresh. Loving the red paint on the seat belt buckles, not to mention painting the wheel weights while painting the wheels, very much up my OCD route, 1st class.

Thanks a lot.

Nice to know I’m not alone in the ocd department :)