Do you think i'd get £45k for my CSL?

[MCSL]

Sat at my computer bored, cup of coffee, scanning Pistonheads classifieds :whistle:

So, do i sell up now and look for a GT3 (probably gen1 ClubSport if i can find a MINT low-mileage example with Porsche warranty) or keep the CSL?

31.5k miles
4 previous owners
FULL BMW SH (7 BMW stamps in total including pre-delivery check and running in service at 1240)
BMW warranty
No modifications - 100% original

don't really want to sell unless I'm definitely going to replace it with a GT3 - nothing else atm would get me out of my CSL. Tempted to hold with the CSL and wait to see if GT3 prices drop a little. Or do i just keep the CSL and forget the GT3 (had one before (gen2) but had to sell to release some cash) :bigcry:

[billyboysm3]

Try it.

[dave wilkinson]

Simple answer is YES. Market is red hot for cars like this. Only advertise if you really want to sell tho as it will definitely sell.

[Touring]

I wouldn't advertise it for less than 45k. You may have to settle for slightly less. IIRC Hexagon sold a 27000 mile SG car (which was in lovely condition for. ~45k)within the last couple of months.
Will you regret selling the CSL? Maybe. The 997.1 is a very different proposition, in my opinion it's less engaging than the CSL partly due to the damping. That aid the GT3 is a very quick accomplished piece of kit. A 996 GT3 CS would give you greater levels of engagement - it's more of a raw experience. The 996 feels more alive at all speeds whereas the 997 is so accomplished you have to be seriously pressing on before it starts to feel alive.
A difficult decision.

[MCSL]

It's a bit ugly though is the 996. I couldn't swap the CSL for one. It's not just about driving the car for me - i like to take a beer into the garage some nights and make sure she's still there... if you know what i mean :yawinkle:

I've had a 997.2 GT3 before so know what i'd be getting myself into. 7.1 is near as dammit as good (for me), and tbh i don't drive them hard enough to notice the extra 10-15% improvement of the 7.2.

A bigger garage and deeper pockets is what i really need though! I might take some photo's of CSL when i get the chance and try it at £45k.

Cheers all for replies :thumbs:

[thegingerninja]

I'd be interested to see what happens at £45. I've owned mine for 8 years and she is on 31000 miles. All the stamps, warranty etc etc.

Now the kids are at private school, it might just be handy for fees should I need to raise some funds one day.

[Mark CSL]

Good luck i think you will need it :whistle:

[CraigMillwardCroft]

would be interesting to see what you get as mine only has 21k on it :thumbs:

[Yanto]

would be interesting to see what you get as mine only has 21k on it :thumbs:

One lady owner....

[Yanto]

Sat at my computer bored, cup of coffee, scanning Pistonheads classifieds :whistle:

So, do i sell up now and look for a GT3 (probably gen1 ClubSport if i can find a MINT low-mileage example with Porsche warranty) or keep the CSL?

31.5k miles
4 previous owners
FULL BMW SH (7 BMW stamps in total including pre-delivery check and running in service at 1240)
BMW warranty
No modifications - 100% original

don't really want to sell unless I'm definitely going to replace it with a GT3 - nothing else atm would get me out of my CSL. Tempted to hold with the CSL and wait to see if GT3 prices drop a little. Or do i just keep the CSL and forget the GT3 (had one before (gen2) but had to sell to release some cash) :bigcry:

Privately I think 45K is optimistic.

Offer £42K, take bids no less than £38K

[outnumbered]

would be interesting to see what you get as mine only has 21k on it :thumbs:

And never tracked !

[Babw]

Is there any person(s) on here that are the original owner of their CSL?

Just wondering whether you were hopeful with the future values and hung on them for the last decade or jumped?

I remember when BMW were struggling to shift these when new, my mum bought a new E46 M3 vert and you could get a CSL for less than a full spec boggo E46 M3!

[Yanto]

Is there any person(s) on here that are the original owner of their CSL?

Just wondering whether you were hopeful with the future values and hung on them for the last decade or jumped?

I remember when BMW were struggling to shift these when new, my mum bought a new E46 M3 vert and you could get a CSL for less than a full spec boggo E46 M3!

Yup,a couple of folks...

[Scott]

Well if this is at £44k then I wouldn't be advertising at anything less than £50k....

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/bmw/e46-m3-00-06/bmw-3-series-e46-m3-csl-2003/2831154

[73CSL]

its interesting the values of CSL's ... I've just sold my RangeRover and looking for a nice Porsche 964 or 993 C2 as a daily

I've budgeted just over £30K

Looked at 6 different 964 C2's this week all with rep specialist dealers ( all down south ) and to be honest there was not one I'd buy for the money they were asking as they all had body or paint issues , apart from one of them that was up for £40K

Travelling back home I realised what a bargain a CSL is ... a low production , highly praised ( every new M3 / 4 is going to be compared against the csl by the press ) desirable 'classic'

Even my wife , who hates the car , can see why us blokes want one :hahaha:

964RS , press ripped it to shreds on launch ... 964 C2 , unloved for years and now you can't seem to find a nice one.

Ive been toying with selling my car, but now realise how difficult it would be to replace it with anything comparable .... we shouldnt undersell our CSL's

[MCSL]

take bids no less than £38K


I think that's a bit light today for the miles, condition, and history.

[Marv968]

Well if this is at £44k then I wouldn't be advertising at anything less than £50k....

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/bmw/e46-m3-00-06/bmw-3-series-e46-m3-csl-2003/2831154

That does look in lovely condition from the pics, however that's top money and I'd expect the owner to write a better, more detailed advert than that!

[LeinsCSL]

964RS , press ripped it to shreds on launch ...

Except Brian Laban (Perf Car)



I think it was Autocar's Andrew Frankel who was the most critical of the CSL on launch. Said it was too uncomfortable and harsh for a daily, and not worth the extra money over standard, although I've always thought he was thrown off course by the presence of rear seats

IIRC, Autocar's Chris Harris, plus Dickie Meaden & John Barker from Evo, thought much more highly of the CSL

[digi]

Don't sell unless you have to or 997 GT3 3.8 to replace it isn't bad. Both will appreciate in value. Mind you the GT3 you will need to get it at a decent price otherwise if you over pay, you simply won't loose, but you won't see decent gains.

Your in the money with the CSL, but when you switch it will depend on the GT3's buy in.:smokin:

[digi]

You people have an inferiority complex or something? The German's are asking moon shot prices! :hahaha:

http://suchen.mobile.de/auto/search.html?scopeId=C&isSearchRequest=true&sortOption.sortBy=searchNetGrossPrice&lang=en&makeModelVariant1.makeId=3500&makeModelVariant1.modelId=45&makeModelVariant1.modelDescription=CSL&minFirstRegistrationDate=2003-01-01&export=ALSO_EXPORT&damageUnrepaired=ALSO_DAMAGE_UNREPAIRED&ambitCountry

[CraigMillwardCroft]

One lady owner....

Git :birdman:

[CraigMillwardCroft]

And never tracked !

What else should I do with it :thumbs:

[Yanto]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/currency/11107001/Pound-hits-two-year-high-as-Scotland-votes.html

Let's go shopping :thumbs:

[Equinox]

Privately I think 45K is optimistic.

Offer £42K, take bids no less than £38K

There are traders around that would offer 38/39 as a cash purchase for this spec car without seeing them so would probably creap up a little more if its as good as it sounds. Mine is SG 31,500 and ive also looked at selling then realised I was being a silly boy...

[Trawler]

its interesting the values of CSL's ... I've just sold my RangeRover and looking for a nice Porsche 964 or 993 C2 as a daily

I've budgeted just over £30K

Looked at 6 different 964 C2's this week all with rep specialist dealers ( all down south ) and to be honest there was not one I'd buy for the money they were asking as they all had body or paint issues , apart from one of them that was up for £40K

Travelling back home I realised what a bargain a CSL is ... a low production , highly praised ( every new M3 / 4 is going to be compared against the csl by the press ) desirable 'classic'

Even my wife , who hates the car , can see why us blokes want one :hahaha:

964RS , press ripped it to shreds on launch ... 964 C2 , unloved for years and now you can't seem to find a nice one.

Ive been toying with selling my car, but now realise how difficult it would be to replace it with anything comparable .... we shouldnt undersell our CSL's


Could not agree more. Check out prices. How about 1995 Escort RS Cosworth for £34995.

[bryce]

Well if this is at £44k then I wouldn't be advertising at anything less than £50k....

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/bmw/e46-m3-00-06/bmw-3-series-e46-m3-csl-2003/2831154

Agree with Scott here. Prices have crept recently and I mean crept, whereas if you check the Prosches (GTx's) and the limited Ferrari's they've leaped in price.

The CSL's need a push from current owners and therefore sellers to bump the price up again. There's nothing comparable at £30k, or £40k infact even at £50k so they should be up there.

Tough shit if you didn't buy earlier and tough shit to me for not buying a black one when I thought about it. Lets get price fixing - the supermarkets do ;-)

[mattCSLnut]

Agree with Scott here. Prices have crept recently and I mean crept, whereas if you check the Prosches (GTx's) and the limited Ferrari's they've leaped in price.

The CSL's need a push from current owners and therefore sellers to bump the price up again. There's nothing comparable at £30k, or £40k infact even at £50k so they should be up there.

Tough shit if you didn't buy earlier and tough shit to me for not buying a black one when I thought about it. Lets get price fixing - the supermarkets do ;-)

Totally agreed :thumbs: I'm in :beer:

[MCSL]

Don't sell unless you have to or 997 GT3 3.8 to replace it isn't bad. Both will appreciate in value. Mind you the GT3 you will need to get it at a decent price otherwise if you over pay, you simply won't loose, but you won't see decent gains.

Your in the money with the CSL, but when you switch it will depend on the GT3's buy in.:smokin:

Could do with the GT3 bubble popping :supz:

[E46CSL]

Could do with the GT3 bubble popping :supz:

When the bubble pops, it will affect all cars I expect. I agree air cooled ones have the most hot air in them.

[MCSL]

When the bubble pops, it will affect all cars I expect.

Few cars - for example Porsche's / Ferrari's best have recently gained thousands on a monthly basis. JZM seem to add 10-20k to each RS they sell, and they still sell them, and often in a matter of days! Many not-as-special cars have piggybacked on the back of these finest - end-of-an-era heroes. CSL's have had a steady, more acceptable increase in value - so possibly a much safer bet if the bubble does pop? The CSL still looks undervalued today, especially if that bubble doesn't pop.

[cslsuperfan]

Few cars - for example Porsche's / Ferrari's best have recently gained thousands on a monthly basis. JZM seem to add 10-20k to each RS they sell, and they still sell them, and often in a matter of days! Many not-as-special cars have piggybacked on the back of these finest - end-of-an-era heroes. CSL's have had a steady, more acceptable increase in value - so possibly a much safer bet if the bubble does pop? The CSL still looks undervalued today, especially if that bubble doesn't pop.

I'm not convinced a price hike on the csl is for the best. Ofcourse being a current owner means you're in the money. The higher the premium the fewer potential owners are in a position to purchase. The success of this forum is down to likeminded owners sharing their experiences and appreciation of the mighty CSL. Long may it continue:smokin:.