Any one thinking of gettin a steering wheel retrim

[adem.csl]

Steer clear of jack at royal wheels terrible job
Although i got a £10 discount mines been scratched and the smg and handbrake gaiter are really poor at £45
Stitching on the wheel could have been done by a 10year old.probabily has been!!!10435

[adem.csl]

For a highly recommended guy this is poor effort!!
Has anyone else had a wheel done by jack and is it stitched this bad???

[adem.csl]

10436
I feel like ive been stitched up here £175 quid of rubbish again!!!

[adem.csl]

10438
Straight simple smg gaitor!!
Not so simple stitch

[shimmy]

Looks like he's been on the vodka!

[JBird]

I'd send it back mate....he has got a lot of business form this forum.

[adem.csl]

Ive already opened a dispute with PayPal im fuming its not fair at all as i did say to him im fussy its gotta be propa if not say adem i cant do It.i spoke to him face to face he promised it would be close to oem as possible!!
He has offered me a refund so let's see if he pays me!!i cant send it back as i will have no steering wheel if i do!!!

[LHutchin]

There was a long thread on cutters where his work wasn't up to scratch

[sjb]

You're not the only one....


http://forums.m3cutters.co.uk/showthread.php?t=104047&highlight=royal

[adem.csl]

He is phonning me at 12.15am telling me thats how he trims all his wheels.i said he has a 50/50 positive to negative feedback he reckons 98% happy 2% unhappy!!!
I may have exaggerated that statement cos im angry!a lot of m3 cutter guys love his work(but they also love the old storm smg nob with grub screws in it)so shows their taste.

Fuck off you gotta be blind,stupid or just not concerned to accept a stitch as crooked as that!!who else has a bent stitch from jack???

I said maybe im the only customer who is unhappy but thats hard to believe!!

He said yes i could have done the smg gaitor better!why didn't you??

[adem.csl]

10439
Wrong colour stitch obviously but this pic shows how an m sport steering wheel should be stitched
(For those who don't know the difference)

[billyboysm3]

Customer service at 12.15am after a few jd's

[NBTBRV8]

I can't add anything for the vendor you used, but I got burnt too using Dallas Custom Steering Wheel in the USA for my GT3. Absolutely terrible job. The hard part is finding a vendor who has a machine to do it, not by hand as most aftermarket guys do.

http://rennlist.com/forums/997-gt2-gt3-forum/771983-997-2-gt3-steering-wheel-recover-who-to-use.html

[shane@mbtech]

I've used jack over the years, but just recently over the last 6 months I've seen a deterioration in both the products being sent out and his customer service skills. I tried and tried to get a wheel done recently, it was like he didn't want to know.

[Mark CSL]

That is not looking good
It cant be that hard to do after all someone makes the BMW M wheel when new :banghead:

The company i would recommend would have been transcal they have a place
in Scotland Livingston and a place in Bristol :thumbs:

[stevenEK9]

sorry to hear this! Must be in the minority as Royal did a brilliant job of my wheel just a few months back


http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj14/stevenEK9/F8A5756C-8545-4643-806A-8598B1EE5F81-2800-00000477DC9F752E_zps414d2170.jpg (http://s268.photobucket.com/user/stevenEK9/media/F8A5756C-8545-4643-806A-8598B1EE5F81-2800-00000477DC9F752E_zps414d2170.jpg.html)

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj14/stevenEK9/FB98B55C-5B86-49B7-852F-A08B82B5F302-2800-00000477E39D45C0_zps78d2a5ec.jpg (http://s268.photobucket.com/user/stevenEK9/media/FB98B55C-5B86-49B7-852F-A08B82B5F302-2800-00000477E39D45C0_zps78d2a5ec.jpg.html)

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj14/stevenEK9/5DAAEA40-5220-487C-BF35-209CBD58F188-2800-00000477EAF056DA_zps364bbc2d.jpg (http://s268.photobucket.com/user/stevenEK9/media/5DAAEA40-5220-487C-BF35-209CBD58F188-2800-00000477EAF056DA_zps364bbc2d.jpg.html)

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj14/stevenEK9/10B498F3-0B82-49FF-8DA3-92C871117280-2800-00000477FC73A6C9_zps94c675a5.jpg (http://s268.photobucket.com/user/stevenEK9/media/10B498F3-0B82-49FF-8DA3-92C871117280-2800-00000477FC73A6C9_zps94c675a5.jpg.html)

[adem.csl]

Ive only just got back from zandvoort 8 hour journey and im on my way to jacks to get this sorted as like a fool i didn't buy a spare wheel at £70 eBay so if it did go wrong i would still have mine.
He has offered to supply me another wheel because he cut mine and do another set of gaitors even he said they look crap!!

Future advice buy a cheap eBay wheel n send that off so if yours ain't bad damaged at least you have a fall back!!

[GregorJP]

StevenEK, did you deliberately get the red marker on your wheel to match your red trainers with blue socks?

Adem, my wheel needs re-trimming and I'm still inclined to take the risk and send it to Royal. I don't know of any other options and it seems like 50/50 risk is worth the chance. Let me know if you get it resolved.

[adem.csl]

Issue resolved im not 100% happy but i guess you get what you pay for and for £135 you will probabily end up with my wheel cos he has to palm that off.i got there and he had already retrimmed another wheel guess what ironically the way i wanted it trimmed and the gaitor was close to good

I asked him with this second wheel is this the best you can do?he replied im not a machine and if you want a 400£ retrim im not your man!!!

10452
This is his straight stitch!not straight its wonky but the stitch is straight!

I won't use him again pay extra 30 get Transcal to do one!im gonna buy a wheel and send it to them see how good they are!!

[adem.csl]

10453

Gaitor stitched straighter and the top has been finished too but again he had that or a refund!!!

[stevenEK9]

StevenEK, did you deliberately get the red marker on your wheel to match your red trainers with blue socks?


:gayfight:

[JBird]

Agree, it still looks shit. Cheers for posting this mate, I was about to send mine of when I red your post. Will try somewhere else.

[Pip1968]

Feedback and pictures from Transcal will be helpful for everyone Adem. Sorry to hear it was not up to scratch first time.

Pip

[adem.csl]

Feedback and pictures from Transcal will be helpful for everyone Adem. Sorry to hear it was not up to scratch first time.

Pip

I gotta buy a wheel first then i will send it off once i get it back i will post the pics

[0-60Motorsports]

Adem I see it and I cringed. That's unacceptable work mate.

[E46CSL]

He did a wheel for me, was bit floppy. Told him, and he redid it for me. It's fine now.

[adem.csl]

He did a wheel for me, was bit floppy. Told him, and he redid it for me. It's fine now.

Got a pic of your wheel?

[TimCSL]

I popped into Transcal today (Bristol) to ask about a retrim on the CSL wheel. They didnt have any alcantara in stock but recommended that the wheel is retrimmed in Alston suede which is apparently harder wearing than alcantara. I'm waiting for a call back to see if they can get the 9002 alcantara as I want it as close to OEM as possible. They did said that all the CSL wheels they have retrimmed recently have been in this Alston but they didnt have a wheel to show me. If I get my done I'll post up some picks

[billyboysm3]

Please do

[adem.csl]

What kind of pricing dude??
Sounds good a harder wearing trim!!
And are they doin the m stitch?

[Mark CSL]

What kind of pricing dude??
Sounds good a harder wearing trim!!
And are they doin the m stitch?

http://www.cslregister.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2175&highlight=transcal

[adem.csl]

http://www.cslregister.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2175&highlight=transcal

Thanks mark im gonna buy a wheel n let them have a go!!
Can't be worse for 200£

[TimCSL]

What kind of pricing dude??
Sounds good a harder wearing trim!!
And are they doin the m stitch?

They want £200 plus VAT. Thats includes doing the M style stitching. I should be getting a call on Monday about whether they can get in the alcantara I want. I'll let you know how things progress.

[adem.csl]

They want £200 plus VAT. Thats includes doing the M style stitching. I should be getting a call on Monday about whether they can get in the alcantara I want. I'll let you know how things progress.

Cool dude ive bought a spare wheel now so i will get mine sent off next month at some stage!!

On mark csl thread its £200 inc postage and vat so just check make sure ok!

[Zerouali]

Any updates would be much appreciated, really need to get mine done.

[adem.csl]

Ive got a wheel just waiting on Transcal to get the alcantara in stock!!

[TimCSL]

Ive got a wheel just waiting on Transcal to get the alcantara in stock!!

Snap! The Bristol branch are still struggling to get the alcantara and I'm not convinced they'll get much joy. I was provided with a sample of the alternative suede that I mentioned previously. The colour 'lunar' is not a bad colour match but still not perfect and I'm not convinced it feels the same as the alcantara.

[adem.csl]

Snap! The Bristol branch are still struggling to get the alcantara and I'm not convinced they'll get much joy. I was provided with a sample of the alternative suede that I mentioned previously. The colour 'lunar' is not a bad colour match but still not perfect and I'm not convinced it feels the same as the alcantara.

This whole steering wheel thing is wearing me out cos mne weren't bad bad to start with.

Now i have another wheel but these guys cant get the gear to do it!!

[Marv968]

Snap! The Bristol branch are still struggling to get the alcantara and I'm not convinced they'll get much joy.

I thought the Alcantara in our cars is just a standardised colour? IIRC code 9002 or 9052?

Should be fine if they're ordering it from the Alcantara SpA themselves.

[TimCSL]

I thought the Alcantara in our cars is just a standardised colour? IIRC code 9002 or 9052?

Should be fine if they're ordering it from the Alcantara SpA themselves.

The Scottish branch of Transcal were quoting me £100 a square metre for 9002 alacantara but they could only order a minimum of 10 metres!

[khooni]

so how much is a genuine CSL: wheel anyway...

and when you buy a spare wheel, what wheel should be purchased? I need mine recovered but was thinking about buying a new wheel (with alcantara) and sending the old one to get it recovered.

[Neil M]

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/bmw-e46-m3-csl-steering-wheel-re-trim-service-uk-based-/151381890156?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item233f10546c
Might be worth considering if they can get the correct Alcantara. :whistle:

and

One for sale across the pond (What are they doing with it?)
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BMW-E46-Genuine-OEM-1999-2006-CSL-M3-SMG-Alcantara-Steering-Wheel-NEW-/181341428276?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item2a38ca9a34

[cslsuperfan]

so how much is a genuine CSL: wheel anyway...

and when you buy a spare wheel, what wheel should be purchased? I need mine recovered but was thinking about buying a new wheel (with alcantara) and sending the old one to get it recovered.

Had a new wheel through BMW about 4 years ago.....it was about £600 without the airbag and centre covers.

[khooni]

cheers.

Is there a bmw website recommended?

[TimCSL]

Quick update on wheel front for anyone thinking of getting their wheel re-trimmed by Transcal. I've sourced the 9002 alcantara from UKhide.co.uk for circa £40 as Transcal couldn't get any. The minimum order quantity is 0.5m x 1.4m which Transcal confirmed is sufficient to do one wheel. The alcantara comes in two variants. You need the 'cover' version with a mesh type backing. Transcal are charging £185 to retrim. I'll post up pics once I get it back.

[JBird]

Is 9002 definatly the exact Alcantara code that BMW used, or a very close match that people have accepted over time?

I ask as I have been trying to get a wheel retrimmed, and the place I am thinking of using has done thousands, many BMW, but claim to have never used 9002.

I know 9002 is what Jack uses (used!), but given that transcal and my place don't have 9002, thought this was a bit odd.

[0-60Motorsports]

Is 9002 definatly the exact Alcantara code that BMW used, or a very close match that people have accepted over time?

I ask as I have been trying to get a wheel retrimmed, and the place I am thinking of using has done thousands, many BMW, but claim to have never used 9002.

I know 9002 is what Jack uses (used!), but given that transcal and my place don't have 9002, thought this was a bit odd.

Yes 9002 is the correct color code for the alcantara

[JBird]

Cheers for clearing that up.

The mob im in talks with say they use "3-9002 Alcantara cover schwarz (9902)", which I can not make heads nor tails of as a description. I have asked them to send a sampe for me to compare before I bother sending my wheel in.

Once the colour is right, how do you tell which one is correct type of alcantara for the steering wheel? Is there a different backing or something?

Edit: TimCSL had already answered my question You need the 'cover' version with a mesh type backing.

[Johnnywb]

Any news on this? I need to get my wheel retrimmed.

[TimCSL]

Any news on this? I need to get my wheel retrimmed.

Dropping my wheel off tomorrow and collecting next Wednesday so I'll get some photos up then

[TimCSL]

Picked the wheel up from Transcal earlier. Very impressed with their work. Stitching is OEM standard.

[TimCSL]

Close up of stitching...

[shane@mbtech]

Looks just like the 3 I've had done by jack in the past.

[TimCSL]

Looks just like the 3 I've had done by jack in the past.

Maybe so but the last few csl wheels haven't been his best!

[adem.csl]

Looks just like the 3 I've had done by jack in the past.

Transcals are Nothing like jacks.
1 his stitching clumps up at the joins
2 his stitch is FAR from straight or uniform
3 he doesn't put the blue stitch across the front of the bottom centre
Its not even close to Transcal you maybe haven't noticed it but anyone can see in my pics how bad his stitch work is sorry!!!

[adem.csl]

Close up of stitching...

Looks super mate did you have to buy your own alcantara in the end and could you pm me the link to who you bought from please im gonna send my spare wheel off end of month.
Which Transcal did you use?thanks

[TimCSL]

Looks super mate did you have to buy your own alcantara in the end and could you pm me the link to who you bought from please im gonna send my spare wheel off end of month.
Which Transcal did you use?thanks

PM sent bud

[shane@mbtech]

Nothing like jacks.
1 his stitching clumps up at the joins
2 his stitch is FAR from straight or uniform
3 he doesn't put the blue stitch across the front of the bottom centre
Its not even close to Transcal you maybe haven't noticed it but anyone can see in my pics how bad his stitch work is sorry!!!

have you seen my last 3 that jack did for me?

Didn't think so. They were perfect like that. If you read my comments earlier in the thread you will see I recognise his quality has gone downhill.

I wouldn't accept your wheel either.

[shane@mbtech]

Maybe so but the last few csl wheels haven't been his best!

I know, pretty shit the last ones.

I wasn't trying to big jack up, just stating a fact about the last 3 he did. I haven had a CSL wheel from him for over 12 months now.

[TimCSL]

I know, pretty shit the last ones.

I wasn't trying to big jack up, just stating a fact about the last 3 he did. I haven had a CSL wheel from him for over 12 months now.

Fair enough Lawsy. I was all set to send my wheel to Jack but with Transcal literally around the corner from me I thought I'd see what type of job they could do.

[adem.csl]

have you seen my last 3 that jack did for me?

Didn't think so. They were perfect like that. If you read my comments earlier in the thread you will see I recognise his quality has gone downhill.

I wouldn't accept your wheel either.

Lol both the wheels i received from jack were cack!!
Yes i noticed you said his quality had gone south dude even the wheels he brought to gaydon were shit but blind belidgerent people flocked round to have their money pinched for crap quality!!
Maybe im the only unlucky one to receive 2 shit wheels all i know is his wheels are far from transcals!!!

Shame you haven't got any pics of your perfect wheels hey?!

[billyboysm3]

So how much is it to get a wheel done at trancals

[TimCSL]

So how much is it to get a wheel done at trancals

I paid £180 ex VAT and sourced the alcantara myself

[E46CSL]

I paid £180 ex VAT and sourced the alcantara myself

I paid around that but had it covered in leather :whistle:

Excellent job.

[$w!ft]

I just got my wheel back from Jack at Royal Steering Wheels -

I had a good experience dealing with him and would recommend his work to anyone on CSLregister.

Pics below of the finished product

[$w!ft]

some more

[Johnnywb]

some more

Where did you get your CF shifters from? Been looking for some like that...

[$w!ft]

karbonkid here on the forums if i recall correctly

[Johnnywb]

Has anyone used Transcal in Livingston?

Bristol have a large contract taking them through to the end of May. As i'm posting it anyway, could just as well post it to Livingston if the quality is as good.