X222 JAP on eBay . . . £30k - 75k Miles

[Rick H]

http://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/271545033160?cmd=VIDESC

[cslgirl]

Wow, one owner too !!

[Neil M]

It's also on Auto Trader, a bit optimistic with the price given the mileage, but a one owner car has added value. :whistle:

[Rick H]

It's also on Auto Trader, a bit optimistic with the price given the mileage, but a one owner car has added value. :whistle:

Yo Neil, you've been quiet of late - have you had the car out?

CSGirl - South Isle NZ?

[cslgirl]

[QUOTE=CSGirl - South Isle NZ?[/QUOTE]

Not that exotic I am afraid! Isle of Wight.... :D

Although it has been raining in London the last couple of days and scorchio here :supz:

[billyboysm3]

Yo Neil, you've been quiet of late - have you had the car out?

CSGirl - South Isle NZ?

Neil has been quiet!!!! Ive missed him!!

[Yanto]

Wow, one owner too !!

+1 rare

[///martin]

The price is too low for the one owner?

[Pip1968]

One owner schwon owner............ gobbledegook. What difference does that make? So the arse shape on the seats is more permanent/embedded ???

One owner and a low mileage maybe but at the end of the day it depends on what condition it is in. Always garaged would be more important to me. Anyway it only has 18" wheels, apparently.

Pip :blalalala:

[Rags]

Has anyone seen this car?

[HFLagos]

http://www.cslregister.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12537&page=4

Worth sending a PM to Matt21 I guess for more info

[mattCSLnut]

Has anyone seen this car?

Are U toying with the idea of getting back into a CSL mate ? :whistle:
BTW, this is the link you want to check out this CSL: http://www.cslregister.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12537

[spoonz]

for sale again.

Anyone know the history of this car?

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/bmw/e46-m3-00-06/bmw-m3-m3-csl/3176784

[Neil M]

The price was recently dropped to £27,950 on ebay and is now sold.

[mattCSLnut]

for sale again.

Anyone know the history of this car?

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/bmw/e46-m3-00-06/bmw-m3-m3-csl/3176784

One of the guys on here (Matt21) went to see it and reported back as untidy with patchy service history :whistle:
Link here: http://www.cslregister.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12537

[CraigMillwardCroft]

Seem odd it has 5 seats :whistle:

[Neil M]

Seem odd it has 5 seats :whistle:

and aluminium door panels? Someone didn't do their homework!:hahaha:

[Matt21]

Yep I've seen it wouldn't touch it

Only difference now is it's a few grand more!

Some good ones out there representing much better value for money

If it hasn't sold in over a year then it's obviously a poor one

[ac427]

Yep I've seen it wouldn't touch it

Only difference now is it's a few grand more!

Some good ones out there representing much better value for money

If it hasn't sold in over a year then it's obviously a poor one

What is up with it Matt ?

[Matt21]

Have a look at link above where I posted my comments.

Different dealer now, so might have had some £££ spent on it, but in my opinion been for sale now for 18 mths for a reason.

[Jon8710]

It's got to have something up with it.

[mattCSLnut]

Esoteric Auto seems to be a new venture and their stock seems to be advertised everywhere else except eBay. Here's that same CSL advertised on :http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C569201 ... but you won't find it on eBay where it spend that last 18 months with SH Car Sales.
Both businesses are based in and around Bedford so may be linked.

[Neil M]

It's changed sellers, added 500mls and gone up in value by £3K - interesting or perhaps not! :whistle:

[Yanto]

Becoming unsaleable for those in the know !

Cheeky £20k bid :)

[Scott]

How long has this actually been for sale for? I bought mine last May and I'm pretty sure this appeared after then. Either way it's been for sale for a long time.

And I agree with Yanto, I would be looking at the old price of £27k and offering less, a lot less.

[cslsuperfan]

How long has this actually been for sale for? I bought mine last May and I'm pretty sure this appeared after then. Either way it's been for sale for a long time.

And I agree with Yanto, I would be looking at the old price of £27k and offering less, a lot less.


To many good examples for sale at the moment for this csl to even get considered...it's been marketed on and off for at least 12-18 months.

[spoonz]

I'd be considering breaking it for parts

[GregorFuk]

I'd be considering breaking it for parts

Yikes! That seems a bit drastic for what could be a perfectly usable car.

All the faults that have been leveled at this car could be pointed at mine but missing a few services and needing a bit of paint does not seem like grounds for breaking to me. I assume it's just priced incorrectly for the amount of remedial work required. Unless someone knows something I don't

[Neil M]

Esoteric Auto seems to be a new venture and their stock seems to be advertised everywhere else except eBay. Here's that same CSL advertised on :http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C569201 ... but you won't find it on eBay where it spend that last 18 months with SH Car Sales.
Both businesses are based in and around Bedford so may be linked.

It was only a matter of time: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BMW-M3-3-2-Sequential-2003MY-CSL-/171651252624?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item27f7364190 ;)

[m3ni]

It was only a matter of time: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BMW-M3-3-2-Sequential-2003MY-CSL-/171651252624?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item27f7364190 ;)

Same dealer as per original advert (SH), just moving their stock about with a new name :whistle:

I have seen the car, let's just say, deep pockets needed...

[GregorFuk]

Same dealer as per original advert (SH), just moving their stock about with a new name :whistle:

I have seen the car, let's just say, deep pockets needed...

Purely out of interest can you PM me the details as I'm struggling to see it.

[GregorFuk]

I see the add for this has been updated giving a more honest interpretation of the car's condition.

Perhaps it is just me but I still think this would be a good buy at the right price.

http://www.esotericauto.com/car-p14

There must be some wiggle room left.

[nw99]

I see the add for this has been updated giving a more honest interpretation of the car's condition.

Perhaps it is just me but I still think this would be a good buy at the right price.

http://www.esotericauto.com/car-p14

There must be some wiggle room left.

You are not going to lose a lot on it if you can grab it a lower price

[m3ni]

I see the add for this has been updated giving a more honest interpretation of the car's condition.

Perhaps it is just me but I still think this would be a good buy at the right price.

http://www.esotericauto.com/car-p14

There must be some wiggle room left.

That "experienced CSL owner" was me, quite a list at the time...

[MisterCorn]

Either that pricing is optimistic or I practically stole mine.

MC

[Jon8710]

it still looks rough as a badgers arse.

[SpineOnABap]

Ripped seat and what appears to be heavy steering wheel wear. Wasn't like that when I traded it in @ 52k miles in 2010. How many owners has it had now?

[Matt21]

It seems to have no service history since you sold it

Claims one owner since. Assume you had it from new?

Price now £26995

[SpineOnABap]

It seems to have no service history since you sold it

Claims one owner since. Assume you had it from new?

Price now £26995

Yep. Confirmed order by me in May 2003 and delivered in Aug 2003 after the 'xenon/washer delay'.

[LHutchin]

It seems to have no service history since you sold it

Claims one owner since. Assume you had it from new?

Price now £26995

Think it's sold they've ended the ebay ad

[Matt21]

Just noticed off PH too. This has been for sale for almost 2 years! Wonder what the future is for this car

[pops]

Just noticed off PH too. This has been for sale for almost 2 years! Wonder what the future is for this car

Possibly be bought as a project car or something along those lines.

May reappear as a fully stripped out track car?

[GregorFuk]

Seems a shame to strip a car like that. I had the skinny on what was up with it and it was hardly unrecoverable.

[Das Chin]

cheap car. seat is easily fixable as is the paint and alloys. just paint the worn steering wheel plastic or get carbon bits from mark.

go in with £25k cash and job done. :thumbs:

if I had a double garage it would be no brainer. would be nice next to the GT3.

are people saying its got sth wrong engine wise?

[nw99]

cheap car. seat is easily fixable as is the paint and alloys. just paint the worn steering wheel plastic or get carbon bits from mark.

go in with £25k cash and job done. :thumbs:

if I had a double garage it would be no brainer. would be nice next to the GT3.

are people saying its got sth wrong engine wise?

Agreed worth £25k in parts anyway

[Goldysingh]

Agreed worth £25k in parts anyway

Hi Chaps

I bought this car.

yes it needs money spent on it but at that price it was a bargain..

Besides, it's not going to be my daily driver as I have an e93 m3 too so I have plenty of time to get the work done.

I had the engine checked out my my mechanic, engine is in pretty good shape as is the gearbox, diff was grinding slightly but that may just need friction modifier.

[nw99]

Hi Chaps

I bought this car.

I got it for 20k in the end, yes it needs money spent on it but at that price it was a bargain..

Besides, it's not going to be my daily driver as I have an e93 m3 too so I have plenty of time to get the work done.

I had the engine checked out my my mechanic, engine is in pretty good shape as is the gearbox, diff was grinding slightly but that may just need friction modifier.

Great trade that's a real bargain .

[Jon8710]

you have done well there mate,

enjoy it, its going to make that E92 feel like a bit of a bus after a while ;)

[Goldysingh]

you have done well there mate,

enjoy it, its going to make that E92 feel like a bit of a bus after a while ;)

Thanks

It already does feel a bit like that, I can't stop driving it..

By far the best car i have owned

[Goldysingh]

One of the guys on here (Matt21) went to see it and reported back as untidy with patchy service history :whistle:
Link here: http://www.cslregister.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12537

The service history is fine on the car, it was missing a Insp 2 stamp in the book but I managed to track down the garage that done the service, they confirmed it had has the inp 2 done and they will be stamping the book for me.

[Matt21]

I thought it was stamped up to 50k a few years back then no more? if that's just an missing stamp that's great.

Sounds a brilliant buy for that price. Bet the dealer was happy to see it go.

Does it need much bodywork doing? I never ended up seeing it as the dealer out me off over phone!

[Goldysingh]

I thought it was stamped up to 50k a few years back then no more? if that's just an missing stamp that's great.

Sounds a brilliant buy for that price. Bet the dealer was happy to see it go.

Does it need much bodywork doing? I never ended up seeing it as the dealer out me off over phone!

It stamped up until 57k, then it was missing a stamp.

I'm going to send it in for an Inspection 2 service anyway even though it's due an oil service next, piece of mind knowing that it has fresh fluids everywhere.

I've dealt with the dealer before when I bought my e46 m3 cabby from him, I managed to knock a fair bit off that too, that car only had 26k miles on it, nothing wrong with it although some of the cars he sells are scrap.

Body work is fine, it could do with a bumper re paint but the rest is fine, i'll be re painting the whole thing at some point, only because I have OCD's.

work that needs doing as follows

new splitters (currently wrapped with vinyl) not sure on condition underneath
seat bolster needs be re trimmed
steering wheel needs to be re trimmed (Royal steering wheel)
top and bottom steering wheel parts needs refresh, will order new from bmw.
wheels need a refurb, will buy new tires too
Inspection 2 service

[GregorFuk]

Good work. Glad to hear that someone picked it up. These cars are getting on an bit now and I think some people have unrealistic expectations of what to expect from a ~12/13 year old car. Getting all sniffy over a ripped bolster and patchy history is bonkers if the car is fundamentally sound and can be had for the right price. A bit of elbow grease and she'll be right.

The best thing about having a shaggy dog rather than a garage queen is you won't be scared to use it.

[Goldysingh]

Good work. Glad to hear that someone picked it up. These cars are getting on an bit now and I think some people have unrealistic expectations of what to expect from a ~12/13 year old car. Getting all sniffy over a ripped bolster and patchy history is bonkers if the car is fundamentally sound and can be had for the right price. A bit of elbow grease and she'll be right.

The best thing about having a shaggy dog rather than a garage queen is you won't be scared to use it.

exactly!

the car isn't pristine but I knew that when I bought it..
total cost of bringing it back up to where it should be will be around 4k, that's including a re spray.

Now someone find me a mint csl for £24k!

[cslsuperfan]

exactly!

the car isn't pristine but I knew that when I bought it..
total cost of bringing it back up to where it should be will be around 4k, that's including a re spray.

Now someone find me a mint csl for £24k!


Are you running the JAP plate?

[Goldysingh]

Are you running the JAP plate?

I am at the moment but that's going to be replaced with a csl plate of some kind.

[0836whimper]

exactly!

the car isn't pristine but I knew that when I bought it..
total cost of bringing it back up to where it should be will be around 4k, that's including a re spray.

Now someone find me a mint csl for £24k!

I like your thinking - good work. Enjoy.

[LeinsCSL]

Nice one Goldy, enjoy! That's a bit of a bargain you've found yourself there I reckon

[cslsuperfan]

Thanks

It already does feel a bit like that, I can't stop driving it..

By far the best car i have owned


Keep this to yourself!!!!

All those fine chaps on cutters will be after one;)

[Goldysingh]

Keep this to yourself!!!!

All those fine chaps on cutters will be after one;)

haha

I'm a cutter too..
they arent all that bad :thumbs:

[Goldysingh]

Nice one Goldy, enjoy! That's a bit of a bargain you've found yourself there I reckon


bargain indeed

can't wait to get the project started

[SpineOnABap]

Enjoy!

Getting a bit of a hankering again for one myself tbh!

[Goldysingh]

Enjoy!

Getting a bit of a hankering again for one myself tbh!

Do it!

The e46 m3 imo is the best looking m car and the csl has just topped it off with the performance

[Cslbirmingham]

Do it!

The e46 m3 imo is the best looking m car and the csl has just topped it off with the performance

Do u feel there is actually that much diffrence in a E46 M3 and a CSL.
Wen they wer both new there was only "point 3 of a second" diffrence.

[Trawler]

Do u feel there is actually that much diffrence in a E46 M3 and a CSL.
Wen they wer both new there was only "point 3 of a second" diffrence.

:hahaha: :clown:

[Rick H]

:hahaha: :clown:

Dam, the cat's out the bag now . . . negligable difference . . . :banghead:

[GregorFuk]

:hahaha: :clown:

Same as GT3s. No different from a standard Carrera S. It's just tub thumping by owners who are already all in.

[cslsuperfan]

Dam, the cat's out the bag now . . . negligable difference . . . :banghead:


Tease :hahaha:

[Trawler]

Same as GT3s. No different from a standard Carrera S. It's just tub thumping by owners who are already all in.

In the case of Pork you are correct. :hahaha:

[SpineOnABap]

:hahaha:
That kind of trolling is nearly 12 years too late

[Das Chin]

In the case of Pork you are correct. :hahaha:

only 40-50k in the price now that's all ;-)

[Trawler]

only 40-50k in the price now that's all ;-)

At the time I chose the csl over the gt3 because of its ability to take passengers & the boot. More of an all rounder. Still don't regret it even though Pork price has gone crazy

[MisterCorn]

The GT3 is a significantly different car to the cooking 911 though. The differences are more pronounced than between the M3 and the M3 CSL. This will surely affect the premiums. That and the engine problems on the non GT3/ turbo cars.

MC

[Das Chin]

agreed. only those who missed out on a GT3 and the general retarded on Pistonheads come out with all that crap.

the mezger engine is a work of art, has the motorsport heritage right back to le mans (GT1 engine minus the blowers) and it does not have the issues of the 996 and 997s. plus all the other components such as suspension, adjustable ARBs, camber, uprated braking, aero, cooling, exhausts etc etc.

its just no comparison apart from the 911 badge and the shape. maybe front panels and the bonnet ;-) same for the CSL really.

there is a lot of difference between M3 and the CSL. its listed on here somewhere. defo 20ks worth. again look at the CSL to m3 values...it will be similar to that of the 997 and then the GT3.

[Goldysingh]

here's a quick update on the car

So in the few weeks of ownership I've had the following done

Had the wheels refurbished
New Michelin Pilot Super Sport tyres all round
Had the seat bolsters re trimmed
Steering wheel re trim
New dash and gear stick cover (titan shadow) inserts
Storm motorwerks gear stick and paddles
New flippers

I've also re calibrated the SMG clutch using INPA, the car is driving flawlessly.

Next up, inspection2 service :-)

http://i741.photobucket.com/albums/xx52/Goldysingh_007/image3_3.jpg

http://i741.photobucket.com/albums/xx52/Goldysingh_007/image2_3.jpg

http://i741.photobucket.com/albums/xx52/Goldysingh_007/image1_4.jpg

http://i741.photobucket.com/albums/xx52/Goldysingh_007/IMG_9391.jpg

[Bounce]

Looking good matey.:thumbs:

[Yanto]

Good stuff, but not keen on your knob...

[Trawler]

Good stuff, but not keen on your knob...

Rumour has it that you are not fussy. :gayfight:

[cslsuperfan]

Good stuff, but not keen on your knob...


AP's.......Nice

More than makes up for the Gearshifter. ;)

[Bounce]

AP's.......Nice

More than makes up for the Gearshifter. ;):hahaha::hahaha:

[cslsuperfan]

Mint rims

I hope you've not lost a wheel bolt.

Appears to be one missing.

[Goldysingh]

Good stuff, but not keen on your knob...

Haha

Each to their own, I find it nicer than the plastic oem one.

[Goldysingh]

Mint rims

I hope you've not lost a wheel bolt.

Appears to be one missing.

Thanks

Yep...I Noticed and put it in the other day

[Yanto]

Haha

Each to their own, I find it nicer than the plastic oem one.

:)

[Diamondgeezer]

I thought at the time this was a good buy for someone

It's up for sale on cutters at £49995 :beer:

[MarcM]

I thought at the time this was a good buy for someone

It's up for sale on cutters at £49995 :beer:

Also on PH me thinks. Still not sure about the gearknob and steering wheel re-trim.

Looks tidy in the pics. I once went from Edinburgh to Kettering to see an E30 because it looked 'tidy', but was a shitbox; so I know pics can be deceiving

[cslsuperfan]

I thought at the time this was a good buy for someone

It's up for sale on cutters at £49995 :beer:


And now PH....next to mine ;)

[Goldysingh]

Also on PH me thinks. Still not sure about the gearknob and steering wheel re-trim.

Looks tidy in the pics. I once went from Edinburgh to Kettering to see an E30 because it looked 'tidy', but was a shitbox; so I know pics can be deceiving

I was wondering how long it will take to get noticed on here!

I can assure you that this car is tidy, pictures can be deceiving I agree, I've spent a hell of a lot of money to get this car looking like this. A few people have seen this car when it was for sale at sh, it wasn't pretty but then it only cosmetics which I have had rectified.

A lot of cutters have also seen this car, read the comments on the for sale thread and then you'll make your mind up on how I like to keep the condition of my cars.

The gear knob and steering wheel can easily be put back to oem, personally I like them.

I'll be at the eta meet on Saturday if anyone would like to view it

[MarcM]

I was wondering how long it will take to get noticed on here!

I can assure you that this car is tidy, pictures can be deceiving I agree, I've spent a hell of a lot of money to get this car looking like this. A few people have seen this car when it was for sale at sh, it wasn't pretty but then it only cosmetics which I have had rectified.

A lot of cutters have also seen this car, read the comments on the for sale thread and then you'll make your mind up on how I like to keep the condition of my cars.

The gear knob and steering wheel can easily be put back to oem, personally I like them.

I'll be at the eta meet on Saturday if anyone would like to view it

Sorry, wasn't a derogatory comment. It does genuinely look mint. I always find the first time someone hand washes a car they see warts and all.

I have people who look at my cars who think they are perfect but I can see slight imperfections.

GLWS ;)

[Goldysingh]

Sorry, wasn't a derogatory comment. It does genuinely look mint. I always find the first time someone hand washes a car they see warts and all.

I have people who look at my cars who think they are perfect but I can see slight imperfections.

GLWS ;)

No need to apologise, no offense taken :thumbs: