E46 M3 track slag turned around in a day

[billyboysm3]

So Adem and I picked a E46 M3 up bank holiday weekend in Scotland, BMW kindly lent me a new White M5 which made the journey shorter in time.

She has 54k miles on the clock and all OEM.

Sunday was our only day to fit intrax, AP's, change brake fluid, strip interior, fit seats, harnesses and geo before bedford on Monday.

The seats we ordered failed to get delivered on Friday so had to remove the seats out of the E36, drill new holes in the base and fit.

First removed interior:
http://i1000.photobucket.com/albums/af121/billyboysm3/E46%20M3/IMG_4038_zps152024c9.jpg

http://i1000.photobucket.com/albums/af121/billyboysm3/E46%20M3/IMG_4025_zps2f353d5f.jpg

Then had to fit door cards
http://i1000.photobucket.com/albums/af121/billyboysm3/E46%20M3/IMG_4007_zpsa037c761.jpg

http://i1000.photobucket.com/albums/af121/billyboysm3/E46%20M3/IMG_4027_zpsf6dcc6ab.jpg

Had to fit E36 seats :(
http://i1000.photobucket.com/albums/af121/billyboysm3/E46%20M3/IMG_4028_zpscade4b52.jpg

http://i1000.photobucket.com/albums/af121/billyboysm3/E46%20M3/IMG_4029_zps822385f1.jpg

Didn't have time to fit short shifter.

Fitted AP's and Intrax
http://i1000.photobucket.com/albums/af121/billyboysm3/E46%20M3/IMG_4032_zpsc05e68b8.jpg

Ran out of time to fit new bonnet:
http://i1000.photobucket.com/albums/af121/billyboysm3/E46%20M3/IMG_4054_zpsb0594511.jpg

Bought some cups off here but rear was flat as a pancake and doesnt hold air so had to make last minute changes on Friday as wanted to arrive and drive on cups and didnt want to use my CSL rims with new cups for a shakedown at bedford.

Luckily been refurbing these 18's for the last week:
Before:
http://i1000.photobucket.com/albums/af121/billyboysm3/E46%20M3/IMG_3936_zpsffd2d302.jpg

http://i1000.photobucket.com/albums/af121/billyboysm3/E46%20M3/IMG_3938_zpsc4222bf2.jpg

After some strong acid, shit loads of sanding, and cleaned with fairy liquid:
http://i1000.photobucket.com/albums/af121/billyboysm3/E46%20M3/IMG_3943_zpsf0631c40.jpg

These were supposed to go neon but didnt have the time so a quick trip to halfords and decided to be gay and go boring black:
http://i1000.photobucket.com/albums/af121/billyboysm3/E46%20M3/IMG_3989_zpsef00e5ea.jpg
http://i1000.photobucket.com/albums/af121/billyboysm3/E46%20M3/IMG_3990_zps74bad97f.jpg

All rims fit in the back of the car perfectly for when Adem, Gareth and I go to Zaaaaaaannnnddddvort next month.
http://i1000.photobucket.com/albums/af121/billyboysm3/E46%20M3/IMG_4047_zpsf3b00df8.jpg

Time was now 3pm and didnt have time for some porridge:
http://i1000.photobucket.com/albums/af121/billyboysm3/E46%20M3/IMG_4004_zpsffb04b8c.jpg

Adem took the car to his garage to Geo, but had be someone's body guard at a wedding incase things got out of control, so only managed to Geo the car at 5am monday morning.

The alternator packed up so took two batteries to track and Ctek charger.

Car at Bedford:
http://i1000.photobucket.com/albums/af121/billyboysm3/E46%20M3/IMG_4045_zps2d19bbe9.jpg

Still got loads to do but that was the best we could do in such a short space of time.

Car handles well, just need square set up on cups - and solid bushes all round.

[Brandtner]

nice work guys!!

[glendog74]

Nice work fellas :thumbs:

[rstoughy]

That's a superb turnaround :smokin:
Good effort.

[pinkpanther008]

Great turnaround - timing just like most race teams!:beer:

[LeinsCSL]

That's some going, well done lads. Enjoy

[adem.csl]

I am battered the mrs now hates me!!
Ive had to relearn all the driving skill from the 328 and completely change my style to accommodate the extra 120 odd hp more in m3!
Shame she don't handle like the vert but as billy said once we bush n stiffen it she will go well!!

[billyboysm3]

So managed to free up some time early Sunday morning to do some more bits.

The main thing was to put the car on our scales and see what the weight distribution was like after removing the interior.

We put her on the scales:
http://i1000.photobucket.com/albums/af121/billyboysm3/E46%20M3/IMG_4155_zpsac5d6ba6.jpg
http://i1000.photobucket.com/albums/af121/billyboysm3/E46%20M3/IMG_4154_zps91b1c592.jpg

and she was 1400kg with 3/4 of a tank with not to bad weight distribution. I thought it would be worse.

http://i1000.photobucket.com/albums/af121/billyboysm3/E46%20M3/IMG_4156_zpse18d1e65.jpg

We then started to remove the front end to put in a electric fan and switch, remove aircon and fit new alternator

http://i1000.photobucket.com/albums/af121/billyboysm3/E46%20M3/IMG_4159_zps513b3b63.jpg

http://i1000.photobucket.com/albums/af121/billyboysm3/E46%20M3/IMG_4160_zpse42ef3d1.jpg

http://i1000.photobucket.com/albums/af121/billyboysm3/E46%20M3/IMG_4167_zpsb125c61f.jpg

This is what was removed - bar the washer bottle
http://i1000.photobucket.com/albums/af121/billyboysm3/E46%20M3/IMG_4165_zpsc507a606.jpg

Then when put back together:

http://i1000.photobucket.com/albums/af121/billyboysm3/E46%20M3/IMG_4171_zps96d2ab89.jpg

We then put the car back on the scales and it was 1380kg.

Car has OEM exhaust and still loads of work to do and bits to fit.

Jamie managed to refit a cup on my csl rims and a slick tyre that I managed to blister badly last time at bedford.

Going for a run out at Bedford on the 7th to see how she handles on CUPS before we fit reinforcement plates and new solid bushes.

[shane@mbtech]

Our exhaust is 23kg lighter than stock system Billy. 98db @ 6000rpm.

:thumbs:

Get it fitted.

I'm just fitting another this morning then off for mapping

[billyboysm3]

Our exhaust is 23kg lighter than stock system Billy. 98db @ 6000rpm.

:thumbs:

Get it fitted.

I'm just fitting another this morning then off for mapping

Nice!!!!

[glendog74]

Nice one boys :thumbs:

I have some nice lighweight BBS E88 18" rims for sale if you want to save a couple more kilos :whistle:

[derek]

Well done Billy it's only taken me 3 month, booked first track day on 10th July

[adem.csl]

Billy done a great job pulling it all apart and together he got a great base in that m3 hopefully with the fibreglass bits it will shed more weight!!

Best of luck at Bedford on 7th dude

Gotta find more weight to loose dude though

[Graham]

Good work, are you doing anything oil & radiator wise for better cooling?

[billyboysm3]

All depends on how Bedford goes tomorrow and how Adems tricked up oil cooler and bits cope at zandvoort

[Graham]

Look forwards to seeing the results :thumbs:

[billyboysm3]

Thought Id even it out and fit a spare set of my csl rims with cups, 19 inch staggered set up for bedford tomorrow to see how the car handles compared to the CSL

http://i1000.photobucket.com/albums/af121/billyboysm3/E46%20M3/IMG_4273_zps2661a4b8.jpg

http://i1000.photobucket.com/albums/af121/billyboysm3/E46%20M3/IMG_4271_zps75e4d96c.jpg

[shimmy]

Lookin great billyboy. :thumbs:

[alexk]

Very nice Billy and the silver is a very nice color for the E46 M3.
I always liked it.

Have fun :thumbs:

[billyboysm3]

So took car for its 2nd track day ever, after electric fan and switch, oil and water temps were perfect all day, was short shifting at 6k revs as want to ease the old girl into it.

Ran with sport off by mistake, does it actually make any difference?

Also told the misses we were going out for the day, she was well chuffed we ended up at Bedford :)

Wanted to run my 19 inch csl rims to see how much different the two cars are, my cups were f*cked to begin with and they didn't like the heat on Monday.

Track felt slower than a few weeks ago, heres a video of the old girl using my bullet cam, was doing 2.46/2.47 all day but couldn't hook up a virtual best of 2.44

Enjoy:

Oh, best set up is defo 18 inch square set up on cups, should never of sold them to Lawsy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPr9Ip5Lo8E

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPr9Ip5Lo8E

[mattCSLnut]

So took car for its 2nd track day ever, after electric fan and switch, oil and water temps were perfect all day, was short shifting at 6k revs as want to ease the old girl into it.

Ran with sport off by mistake, does it actually make any difference?

Also told the misses we were going out for the day, she was well chuffed we ended up at Bedford :)

Wanted to run my 19 inch csl rims to see how much different the two cars are, my cups were f*cked to begin with and they didn't like the heat on Monday.

Track felt slower than a few weeks ago, heres a video of the old girl using my bullet cam, was doing 2.46/2.47 all day but couldn't hook up a virtual best of 2.44

Good work Billy :thumbs: How you got away alive with that "lets go out for the day in the Track Slag M3 dear" I'll never know :axe:

Oh, best set up is defo 18 inch square set up on cups, should never of sold them to Lawsy

I agree about the 18" square set up :thumbs: I should have never SOLD them to you in the first place ;) :bigcry:

[shimmy]

Billy

I'd be interested now to see if your M3 time is better than CSL time at Snett. The cars must now be about same power/weight, same suspension, cups.

[billyboysm3]

Billy

I'd be interested now to see if your M3 time is better than CSL time at Snett. The cars must now be about same power/weight, same suspension, cups.

Not yet it isn't, it just doesn't handle the same, steering rack maybe, stiffer bushes and square set up, as per the video I was wrestling with the steering but was on 19inch rims, the Csl is complete out of the box, then intrax and bbk finishes it off.

This thing is stripped and doesn't have it, it's good but not like letting a Csl loose on track.

Going to run square set up next and see, I think I could do 2.12 at snett really going for it but miles off that big 2.10!!!!

Fucking mega times shimmy at Bedford and snetterton, really good bench mark and anyone that can get near them is a very good driver.

Going to make sure I get tuition from mike wilds at Bedford and snett

[shimmy]

Cheers Billy....all it was esp at Snett was crossing the line between driving hard under control and then getting the car out of shape and driving harder

It's not about treating it harder it's just having the car loose under you. I can't do it out of the box but it does come back to me when in the groove,

I think he square set up isnt any quicker (maybe a tiny bit on the brakes) but it suits us novice drivers as it stops the understeer for us, whereas a pro driver or some one who has mastered the technique can get the car turned without overheating the fronts.ONeill can drive the OeM sizes quick.

[billyboysm3]

The m3s heavy up front, with some more weight removed im sure turn in will be improved as the 328 turns in better.

Not done snett for well over a year in a m3 so will get one booked in the next couple of months. Would be good to go back to see how I have improved.

I'll let you and Barry know some dates. Ill see if I can get funkster out also.

[shimmy]

The m3s heavy up front, with some more weight removed im sure turn in will be improved as the 328 turns in better.

Not done snett for well over a year in a m3 so will get one booked in the next couple of months. Would be good to go back to see how I have improved.

I'll let you and Barry know some dates. Ill see if I can get funkster out also.

CSl will need a run out soon :whistle:

[billyboysm3]

CSl will need a run out soon :whistle:

Mine needs a run out soon also :hahaha:

Quick 20 second video of me finding some dirty rubber

www.youtube.com/watch?v=BdwhmS6C7uw&feature=youtu.be

[Harryrs]

So took car for its 2nd track day ever, after electric fan and switch, oil and water temps were perfect all day, was short shifting at 6k revs as want to ease the old girl into it.

Ran with sport off by mistake, does it actually make any difference?

Also told the misses we were going out for the day, she was well chuffed we ended up at Bedford :)

Wanted to run my 19 inch csl rims to see how much different the two cars are, my cups were f*cked to begin with and they didn't like the heat on Monday.

Track felt slower than a few weeks ago, heres a video of the old girl using my bullet cam, was doing 2.46/2.47 all day but couldn't hook up a virtual best of 2.44

Enjoy:

Oh, best set up is defo 18 inch square set up on cups, should never of sold them to Lawsy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPr9Ip5Lo8E

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPr9Ip5Lo8E


Looking good mate

[shimmy]

Got mine back today after a few weeks at Elms for some free storage and a loan of a X1, 430, M5 and 525MSport.

A little bit of warranty work done thata Gareth found before he left and Emma and Dan kindly sorted in the usual kind, efficient and thoughtful way. Many thanks to them.

So CSL goes back in the garage and I'll have to drive my own car to work now :(

[adem.csl]

Mine needs a run out soon also :hahaha:

Quick 20 second video of me finding some dirty rubber

www.youtube.com/watch?v=BdwhmS6C7uw&feature=youtu.be

Lol your never confident with that corner!!
I ace that
I just wipe out the rest lmao!!!

[adem.csl]

http://youtu.be/zJzjZjVHZsU
My little slip at voort you cant see it but you can hear the mistake

[rstoughy]

I uploaded my Vbox data from 2 weekends ago at knockhill and compared with the CSL data from the other month. (my csl is std bar AP's)
The new car is 5mph slower up the main straight, 2mph slower on the back straight and slower by about 7mph down through Duffus.
Now a lot of this could be down to the fact I just need to learn how to drive this car as never had a car with anything other than near factory settings however I did think that with the spec of the car it would easily match the CSL times.
Saying that I've just discovered a Vanos issue so that might explain the lack of power.

All in all the CSL is superb out the box and a std M3 needs to work really hard to get anywhere close.

Not yet it isn't, it just doesn't handle the same, steering rack maybe, stiffer bushes and square set up, as per the video I was wrestling with the steering but was on 19inch rims, the Csl is complete out of the box, then intrax and bbk finishes it off.

This thing is stripped and doesn't have it, it's good but not like letting a Csl loose on track.

Going to run square set up next and see, I think I could do 2.12 at snett really going for it but miles off that big 2.10!!!!

Fucking mega times shimmy at Bedford and snetterton, really good bench mark and anyone that can get near them is a very good driver.

Going to make sure I get tuition from mike wilds at Bedford and snett

[billyboysm3]

I agree Paul, would like to test the M3 out at Donny, Bedford or snetterton against a well driven CSL though. We have a few upgrades for the next day, two completely different cars out of the box. Shows you how good the Csl is.

[derek]

I uploaded my Vbox data from 2 weekends ago at knockhill and compared with the CSL data from the other month. (my csl is std bar AP's)
The new car is 5mph slower up the main straight, 2mph slower on the back straight and slower by about 7mph down through Duffus.
Now a lot of this could be down to the fact I just need to learn how to drive this car as never had a car with anything other than near factory settings however I did think that with the spec of the car it would easily match the CSL times.
Saying that I've just discovered a Vanos issue so that might explain the lack of power.

All in all the CSL is superb out the box and a std M3 needs to work really hard to get anywhere close.

Just done 2nd track night in m3 first was a diaster due to wheels rubbing inner arches. Best time was 1.9 secs down on csl, m3 is 8 mph down on my best time on main straight in csl, 112 was max speed last night. Car is going well but water temp was a bit high but would drop down quickly after cool down lap

[billyboysm3]

Just done 2nd track night in m3 first was a diaster due to wheels rubbing inner arches. Best time was 1.9 secs down on csl, m3 is 8 mph down on my best time on main straight in csl, 112 was max speed last night. Car is going well but water temp was a bit high but would drop down quickly after cool down lap

Remove Aircon and front pusher fan, install electric fan and switch and no water temp issues unless your stuck on the M25

[Graham]

Derek this is what it looks like on your front end

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b112/GrahamVFR/BMW%20M3/Cooling/3F5E7040-A388-42CB-A6A0-FF227402DF22.jpg (http://s18.photobucket.com/user/GrahamVFR/media/BMW%20M3/Cooling/3F5E7040-A388-42CB-A6A0-FF227402DF22.jpg.html)

Need to remove the aux fan and get some air into the rad. I got a mishimoto fan for £65 to install behind and remove viscous fan

[billyboysm3]

A picture from bedford what feels like months ago now.

New upgrades going on this month:

http://i1000.photobucket.com/albums/af121/billyboysm3/14600159485_17c4fc397a_z_zps1a9fb35a.jpg

[billyboysm3]

Rear rims painted and tyres fitted, serviced, adems corner weighting and doing geo whilst swapping a engine in another e46 m3.

[billyboysm3]

Rear rims painted and tyres fitted, serviced, adems corner weighting and doing geo whilst swapping a engine in another e46 m3.

Rims

[billyboysm3]

Engine out

[shimmy]

Why?

[CraigMillwardCroft]

do all your cars need there engines out :whistle:

[Mark CSL]

looks like he has broken another one :hahaha::hahaha::hahaha:

[billyboysm3]

Ha ha, e46 m3 engine in Csl and m5 lump in m3.......

[adem.csl]

Ha ha, e46 m3 engine in Csl and m5 lump in m3.......

Just got the m5 lump running dude although we need exhausts!!!

[uncle benz]

Derek this is what it looks like on your front end

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b112/GrahamVFR/BMW%20M3/Cooling/3F5E7040-A388-42CB-A6A0-FF227402DF22.jpg (http://s18.photobucket.com/user/GrahamVFR/media/BMW%20M3/Cooling/3F5E7040-A388-42CB-A6A0-FF227402DF22.jpg.html)

Need to remove the aux fan and get some air into the rad. I got a mishimoto fan for £65 to install behind and remove viscous fan

Look at that 6kg of undesirable weight right out in the offside front corner! On the heavy side of the car too. I moved mine to a weeny reservoir tucked into the empty space below the windscreen on the passenger side.

You could always leave it empty I suppose...

[shimmy]

Just got the m5 lump running dude although we need exhausts!!!

S62?

If so Dya think 400bhp with he S62 at the front will make it quicker on track?

[adem.csl]

S62?

If so Dya think 400bhp with he S62 at the front will make it quicker on track?

This heavy lump will have great straight line speed as long as it don't spin on the corners!!!
10580

[Graham]

Look at that 6kg of undesirable weight right out in the offside front corner! On the heavy side of the car too. I moved mine to a weeny reservoir tucked into the empty space below the windscreen on the passenger side.

You could always leave it empty I suppose...

Fair comment, when I am worried about weight saving I will put it on the to do list :thumbs:

[CraigMillwardCroft]

Are you putting the V8 into the M3 :whistle:

[adem.csl]

Are you putting the V8 into the M3 :whistle:

Flipping billy giving away my secret developements i don't let people in my mad lab and this is why!!!!lol

Going into my top secret black m3 i had stashed away!!!

[shimmy]

you boys need to go racing!

[adem.csl]

you boys need to go racing!

Snetterton end of september

[shimmy]

Snetterton end of september

racing or trackday race

[billyboysm3]

you boys need to go racing!

We will do, Only just getting my sleep back after Toni giving birth.

[billyboysm3]

racing or trackday race

Trackday, got about 4 other M3 track slags going and GT3 & CSL.

Have you got what it takes?

[glendog74]

We will do, Only just getting my sleep back after Toni giving birth.

Congrats! :beer:

[adem.csl]

Correction billy will be!!!
Im contemplating selling up and buying a 10 plate range hse sport tdv8

[billyboysm3]

Correction billy will be!!!
Im contemplating selling up and buying a 10 plate range hse sport tdv8

That needs to tow the track car!!

[billyboysm3]

Congrats! :beer:

Cheers, its taken nearly 4 months!!!

[shimmy]

Trackday, got about 4 other M3 track slags going and GT3 & CSL.

Have you got what it takes?

Its in the diary but I have an operation on my Achilles on the 22nd so ill have to see how that goes first.:)


Correction billy will be!!!
Im contemplating selling up and buying a 10 plate range hse sport tdv8

Had a TDV8 RRS........................mine was new but it will be a money pit after I guarantee!

[billyboysm3]

So, Adem fitted Evo pulleys, rear spoiler, adjusted front camber to -5, didn't have time to fit bonnet :(

With the rear spoiler looking mean I fitted my black square set CSL rims.

Went to Snetterton Monday, not been in a M3 for well over 1.5 years, so got tuition first thing. After the fog cleared at 10.45am, we were let on track, mixed track conditions, car was on song and felt really solid through Riches and Coram. In the dry this car should be able to put in a very quick lap, its far quicker than my ability.

Here's a few pictures and 15min of my clearest track time, with all sorts of track weapons on, you can see all the time is made up through the twisties.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVG63gkzlzA

http://i1000.photobucket.com/albums/af121/billyboysm3/E46%20M3/IMG_5006_zps2f807845.jpg

http://i1000.photobucket.com/albums/af121/billyboysm3/E46%20M3/IMG_5005_zpsa5b38e9e.jpg

http://i1000.photobucket.com/albums/af121/billyboysm3/E46%20M3/IMG_4937_zpsc8f5cbf4.jpg

[shimmy]

superb boys..........how do you know the wing is pointing the right way/

[billyboysm3]

Got a professional to fit it and measure the angle in degrees and all that crap with the cars normal ride height with a digital spirit level while we had lunch and took the piss out of each other.

[shimmy]

Got a professional to fit it and measure the angle in degrees and all that crap with the cars normal ride height with a digital spirit level while we had lunch and took the piss out of each other.

tfft - god knows where it would have pointed otherwise :beer:

ever since Nathan took his down Craners witht he wing and splitter, I had wanted to do that to the CSL (removable wing and GT like splitter)

[billyboysm3]

Few pictures:

http://i1000.photobucket.com/albums/af121/billyboysm3/3_zps7206d5bd.jpg

http://i1000.photobucket.com/albums/af121/billyboysm3/1_zps6f66f256.jpg

http://i1000.photobucket.com/albums/af121/billyboysm3/4_zps0f3910ae.jpg

http://i1000.photobucket.com/albums/af121/billyboysm3/11_zps76a428b1.jpg

http://i1000.photobucket.com/albums/af121/billyboysm3/10_zpsccd4c25b.jpg

http://i1000.photobucket.com/albums/af121/billyboysm3/6_zps8f3a915a.jpg

[mattCSLnut]

Looking good Billy :thumbs: athough I'm surprised the front forgs weren't deployed considering the misty conditions ;)

[cslsuperfan]

Billy

was that Adem on track ahead of you........ for a bit;)

[adem.csl]

Billy

was that Adem on track ahead of you........ for a bit;)

F**k off!!!

I left after that lap!!!

[adem.csl]

The csl was shit all day i just couldn't get it all working together!!
I don't know where i went wrong!!
Got to track set the camber at -3 deg put the cups at 30 psi and set the suspension to full hard.
Bearing in mind i haven't used it on track since donny last year i weren't sure what was what so heated the tyres got them kinda working(2012)brand new cups!then i came in and backed the rear suspension bump by 4 clicks from hard this time the car got really sloppy around the track so came in to find the cups had shot to 38psi so dropped the pressure tightened the suspension by 2 clicks wow it started to really work!!!!
Found a new problem as i got to the first corner the brake was hard then it just dropped to the floor thats why i had my foot on the brake even going round the first corner cos the car didn't slow!!it stayed like that so i was limping the car around as billy caught me up i tried to get past the old bimmer who shut the door on me think was Hamilton thats where it all ended billy was up my ass this old bimmer refused to move i hit fourth billy flew by i went home!!!


As for driving skill bear in mind billies done 10-12 times snetterton that was my second attempt so pretty heart broken it happened but billies a much better driver then me its proven so i need to practice more.

[shimmy]

The csl was shit all day i just couldn't get it all working together!!
I don't know where i went wrong!!
Got to track set the camber at -3 deg put the cups at 30 psi and set the suspension to full hard.
Bearing in mind i haven't used it on track since donny last year i weren't sure what was what so heated the tyres got them kinda working(2012)brand new cups!then i came in and backed the rear suspension bump by 4 clicks from hard this time the car got really sloppy around the track so came in to find the cups had shot to 38psi so dropped the pressure tightened the suspension by 2 clicks wow it started to really work!!!!
Found a new problem as i got to the first corner the brake was hard then it just dropped to the floor thats why i had my foot on the brake even going round the first corner cos the car didn't slow!!it stayed like that so i was limping the car around as billy caught me up i tried to get past the old bimmer who shut the door on me think was Hamilton thats where it all ended billy was up my ass this old bimmer refused to move i hit fourth billy flew by i went home!!!


As for driving skill bear in mind billies done 10-12 times snetterton that was my second attempt so pretty heart broken it happened but billies a much better driver then me its proven so i need to practice more.

sometimes it just dont feel right adem......dont knock yourself up about it.


is that why you were in a mood on the way home :whistle:

[adem.csl]

sometimes it just dont feel right adem......dont knock yourself up about it.


is that why you were in a mood on the way home :whistle:

I was more vex with me then the car because i should have known better!i was in such a rush to get the car to work i didn't consider the fact the tyres were brand new cups not slicks and the brakes haven't worked that hard in a year and the sheer stupidity getting desperate to get past that old bm at Hamilton!!

Its not a nice feeling at all so back to the drawing board try to learn from it and i gaurantee that would never have happened at brands where ive done 10+ sessions!!!

Im still super boiled up even today tbh!!

[adem.csl]

http://youtu.be/5JZSYKDPkSM

Here's a decent lap i got held up on!!!
Weren't gonna upload it but it shows my lines!!!
(P.s i didn't get tuition)

[cslsuperfan]

Billy

was that Adem on track ahead of you........ for a bit;)

Soz Adem

No brakes is a bit of a drama :smt056

[mattCSLnut]

The csl was shit all day i just couldn't get it all working together!!
I don't know where i went wrong!!
Got to track set the camber at -3 deg put the cups at 30 psi and set the suspension to full hard.
Bearing in mind i haven't used it on track since donny last year i weren't sure what was what so heated the tyres got them kinda working(2012)brand new cups!then i came in and backed the rear suspension bump by 4 clicks from hard this time the car got really sloppy around the track so came in to find the cups had shot to 38psi so dropped the pressure tightened the suspension by 2 clicks wow it started to really work!!!!
Found a new problem as i got to the first corner the brake was hard then it just dropped to the floor thats why i had my foot on the brake even going round the first corner cos the car didn't slow!!it stayed like that so i was limping the car around as billy caught me up i tried to get past the old bimmer who shut the door on me think was Hamilton thats where it all ended billy was up my ass this old bimmer refused to move i hit fourth billy flew by i went home!!!


As for driving skill bear in mind billies done 10-12 times snetterton that was my second attempt so pretty heart broken it happened but billies a much better driver then me its proven so i need to practice more.

There's your problem mate ... but I guess you know that now ;) 26 psi cold, all round for Track work on CUPs ... 30 psi or above is for road use only.
http://www.michelin.co.uk/tyres/michelin-pilot-sport-cup

[billyboysm3]

Adem, don't beat yourself up.

You drive really well, after we sorted tyre pressures the Csl gripped, the conditions didn't help.

Also I have been a stupid amount of times and had tuition. Also had tuition first thing that morning. Making sure I'm at full power coming out of bends to the straights.

It's your first full day there. You set the M3 up, geo, corner weight, ride height etc so massive thanks to you as she had a stupid amount of grip left that my talent could not handle.

Yes I did pass but only because i knew how to get the best from that corner. Shame i didn't have a go pro in the rear as you did well following me for the next couple of laps.

I'll help get you there, it's just seat time, tuition, seat time, tuition and fun.

Shimmy wasn't born quick, he has had to work for it.

When I first went to snetterton with shimmy and the boys I was like a rabbit in headlights.

Roll on 2nd nov at snetterton and we're learn those lines.

You've set the m3 and your Csl up an absolute dream, be proud, your awesome at what you do. Have fun and the times will drop.

Billy your apprentice technician and t boy.

[Chappers]

Does anyone here actually rate Snetterton? I really disliked it when I went in the Noble. When you're on the track it just seems to be
straight,
90° constant radius,
straight,
180° constant radius,
straight,
90° constant radius,
straight,
180° constant radius

It just wasn't very interesting :S

[shimmy]

Shimmy wasn't born quick, he has had to work for it.

When I first went to snetterton with shimmy and the boys I was like a rabbit in headlights.

.

Too true, im pretty average but have worked hard at the CSL. I get in another car and I go back to being a billy and have to learn again. Sometimes i get in the CSL and im on the pace, sometimes it takes me all day to get to 90% of where i was last time out.

As ONeill says we are all billys and if we were good we would know it. 83SY is good. Im just trying extra hard.

Tuition doesnt always work, doesnt always work straight away and sometimes it can just make sense and take you up a level in understanding.



Does anyone here actually rate Snetterton? I really disliked it when I went in the Noble. When you're on the track it just seems to be
straight,
90° constant radius,
straight,
180° constant radius,
straight,
90° constant radius,
straight,
180° constant radius

It just wasn't very interesting :S

It lacks a couple of good mid speed corners and i think is an average track for the UK. Racers like it as it has a bit of everything and you can overtake. Best part is the Esses through to the back of Coram which is very technical i think and in think you may have missed out on your synopsis above :)

[Chappers]

Perhaps... that was the bit where the Noble made a really awful noise. Maybe it's worth another look. I like variety and it felt a bit samey to me. Funnily enough didn't think it was bad at all when I was there on the bike, probably due to the exact reasons I didn't like it in a car!

Shimmy don't you have the fastest laptime round Spa or am I thinking of 83SY?

[billyboysm3]

I think you might of done the 200 circuit which is effectively a rectangle.

Shimmy is SPA king.

Would love to do spa next year, probably in a BMW courtesy car.

[Chappers]

No it was the 300 both times. I came away thinking the Noble was crap on track but had an absolute hoot on the Silverstone GP earlier this year.

Unfortunately I had too much of a hoot on the way back to the hotel at the ring a couple of weeks later and now I need a new gearbox :(

This is why I'm suddenly considering a couple of CSL trackdays...

[billyboysm3]

Snetterton is a good track for the CSL. We are there on the 2nd Nov.

[adem.csl]

All revised and full of new tricks and goodies!!both cars will be doin serious work!!

[cslsuperfan]

Anyone know the shimster's fastest lap at Spa?

2.50 seems to be a respectable time

Come on shim let's have it.....

if it's under 2.45 I'm not coming;)

[shimmy]

2m 59,4 iirc

and that felt a bit loose tbh

wing will help and slicks but acceleration and top speed also may be reduced which may be an issue. Most race teams run less wing a Spa i think

[billyboysm3]

Adem put some hours in last night, Fitted my last set of RS29's hanging around the garage, bonnet, front splitter, Uniroyals and geo tweak for Sat.

http://i1000.photobucket.com/albums/af121/billyboysm3/IMG_5528_zps42a27e1a.jpg

http://i1000.photobucket.com/albums/af121/billyboysm3/IMG_5535_zpsd0495a80.jpg

http://i1000.photobucket.com/albums/af121/billyboysm3/2_zps8ba1fe99.jpg

[cslsuperfan]

Billy

Love the rear wing.

Wicked wing end plates.

[Brandtner]

The rear wing is mint!

[Das Chin]

I doubt the marshalls at the ring will share the same view?

those end plates are like massive daggers to an out of talent biker.

are they removeable?

[billyboysm3]

I doubt the marshalls at the ring will share the same view?

those end plates are like massive daggers to an out of talent biker.

are they removeable?

I wont be driving this to the ring or be doing a track day at the ring.

Brands or Donny will be far enough.
Fair play to Adem driving it to Zandvoort.

Come off in 2min.

[CraigMillwardCroft]

I wont be driving this to the ring or be doing a track day at the ring.

Brands or Donny will be far enough.
Fair play to Adem driving it to Zandvoort.

Come off in 2min.

Why are you not taking it to SPA next May :whistle:

[billyboysm3]

Might be able to drive the CSL then.

[cslsuperfan]

Might be able to drive the CSL then.

track car or csl is irrelevant @ Spa

either one will do nicely!!

On our first return from Spa we were already jacking up the sequel!!

Once driven its hard to rival, ring being the possible exception.

[billyboysm3]

Track day at snetterton yesterday. Half dryish track and other half, wet, damp, greasy.

Went for goodyears in the end. Gave a good compromise.

Took a good 6 laps to get heat into them.

After Adem fitted front splitter and bonnet car was very planted, best turn in the cars had.

With -5.5 front camber and on 19inch square set up turn in, in the wet was fun but the car was still balanced and felt bloody good.

Got instruction and really pushed the car. Had loads of unexpected sideways moments round riches, coram and turning in under the bridge. Never span and kept it all under control.

The pit straight stayed wet all day but had a dry line just after turn in by the right rumble strip.

Had greAt grip all through middle section and entry onto back straight. Then from back straight to pit straight it didn't dry out.

Adems set the car up just how I want it and it's turning into a weapon.

[M3 UFE]

Good to meet billy

Car felt planted with the splitter and good chioce staying on the gy

Track day at snetterton yesterday. Half dryish track and other half, wet, damp, greasy.

Went for goodyears in the end. Gave a good compromise.

Took a good 6 laps to get heat into them.

After Adem fitted front splitter and bonnet car was very planted, best turn in the cars had.

With -5.5 front camber and on 19inch square set up turn in, in the wet was fun but the car was still balanced and felt bloody good.

Got instruction and really pushed the car. Had loads of unexpected sideways moments round riches, coram and turning in under the bridge. Never span and kept it all under control.

The pit straight stayed wet all day but had a dry line just after turn in by the right rumble strip.

Had greAt grip all through middle section and entry onto back straight. Then from back straight to pit straight it didn't dry out.

Adems set the car up just how I want it and it's turning into a weapon.

[billyboysm3]

Great driving Grant on the 888's with no grip, You could of drifted the whole track easy.

Plumber Vic also good to catch up!!

[shimmy]

WHo did this geezer on the inside in the Clio as he aint happy :hahaha:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dhd2pFCULfc&feature=player_embedded

[shimmy]

From inside Grahams car.....watch the rear view mirror at just under 2 mins

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81XtT7JB6rs&feature=player_embedded

[billyboysm3]

I left about 3pm ish so missed this.

Funny stuff.

Put a leash on her turkish.

Would of loved to see what would of been the outcome if the car leading the pack wasn;t there, would of been a plato touring car move.

[Graham]

That was definetly not a day for 888's, crazy man!

Awesome day even with the 'incident' lol. Bloody idiots

[Bealo]

Was funny.....but if that bird had of hit me she would have been on her arse then her gobby fella..

It looked like the black civic was driving crazy anyway nearly losing it going onto the back straight and then passing the car on the right heading upto the bomb hole.

I'll have a word with James at Snetterton and see if anything was done about it.

[Graham]

Snetterton staff walked down, and once hearing about the woman hitting people with her crash helmet, one of the guys immediately said right that's it I'm going to throw them out. At 3:30pm I can't imagine they were too fussed, it would be nice if they could be banned from any future track days, at Snetterton at least although all MSV circuits would be even better, but I can see why that would be difficult.

[billyboysm3]

Blacked out the front grills, DTM mirrors look great but you cannot see shit and got the 4.1 gearing, Martins then sorting me out some AKG solid bushes all round, H&R anti roll bars, engine/trans mounts.

http://i1000.photobucket.com/albums/af121/billyboysm3/IMG_6056_zps7722a298.jpg

http://i1000.photobucket.com/albums/af121/billyboysm3/IMG_6058_zps96e37c44.jpg
http://i1000.photobucket.com/albums/af121/billyboysm3/IMG_6039_zps7ad4287c.jpg

[rstoughy]

Great modifications Billy. :smokin:

[s1csl]

Blacked out the front grills, DTM mirrors look great but you cannot see shit and got the 4.1 gearing, Martins then sorting me out some AKG solid bushes all round, H&R anti roll bars, engine/trans mounts.

http://i1000.photobucket.com/albums/af121/billyboysm3/IMG_6056_zps7722a298.jpg

http://i1000.photobucket.com/albums/af121/billyboysm3/IMG_6058_zps96e37c44.jpg
http://i1000.photobucket.com/albums/af121/billyboysm3/IMG_6039_zps7ad4287c.jpg

has that wing fell off

[billyboysm3]

Nah still on.

Managed to do Bedford on Monday, you guessed it, it p*ssed it down.

Fitted the Uniroyals and they are superb, rivers on the track and they just gripped.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkhowPTcFTU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkhowPTcFTU

[billyboysm3]

Some pictures from Monday:

[billyboysm3]

Some more

[Graham]

Looks moist

What did you do to the bonnet?

[billyboysm3]

Looks moist

What did you do to the bonnet?

Fibreglass bonnet then painted black, taped it up to stop it flapping about.

[glendog74]

Cool :smokin:

[shimmy]

What dya reckon it's cost you Billy ???£££

[billyboysm3]

Not sure but as I had suspension, APs not as much as most peoples builds.

The next bits will cost a bit more.
Got 4.1 gears, just waiting to fit when I get a moment.
AKG solid bushes from Martin with gear shifter
Then h and r anti roll bars

I have it all written down.

[billyboysm3]

Martin (trackm3) called me to say he has all my bits bar solid control arm mounts.

http://i1000.photobucket.com/albums/af121/billyboysm3/C360_2015-04-01-08-31-05_zpsfjweuawf.jpg

http://i1000.photobucket.com/albums/af121/billyboysm3/C360_2015-04-01-08-31-15_zpslwqscnpy.jpg

Reddish Plates
http://i1000.photobucket.com/albums/af121/billyboysm3/IMG_6398_zpsnnvtuwkf.jpg

Got a spare diff coming in the next week for the 4.1 to be fitted.

Then cars if off to Adem's for some good loving.

Cannot wait to get this thing on track.

[Bounce]

Cool Billy,you can book Silly with us now :thumbs:

[rstoughy]

Nice haul of bits there Billy :smokin:

[billyboysm3]

Cool Billy,you can book Silly with us now :thumbs:

Well considering BMW Customer service told me the bits will be ready for the CSL on the 9th of April and have now said they will let me know on the 9th if it cannot be met suggests this car is still nowhere near being fixed.

But I cannot wait to get in this.

[CraigMillwardCroft]

Some nice looking bit will that keep Adem busy :whistle:

[shimmy]

Get that weighty M3 down to Silly in June Billy! :smokin:

New track to all of us...all even, lets see who is BOSS

[billyboysm3]

Get that weighty M3 down to Silly in June Billy! :smokin:

New track to all of us...all even, lets see who is BOSS

That's my aim, that's if you lot don't mind a wet track day as it will piss it down.

[shimmy]

That's my aim, that's if you lot don't mind a wet track day as it will piss it down.

good point........fuck off to Snetterton you carrot cruncher!

[billyboysm3]

good point........fuck off to Snetterton you carrot cruncher!

I've jinxed Bedford, brands and snetterton now. Law of averages says I'll get at least one dry day this year surely.

[shimmy]

I've jinxed Bedford, brands and snetterton now. Law of averages says I'll get at least one dry day this year surely.

Mate, you jinxed Silly two years Ago

I seem to remember a CSL day out where we had torrential rain all day with you present .....hope to see you in Autumn :)

[Bounce]

Mate, you jinxed Silly two years Ago

I seem to remember a CSL day out where we had torrential rain all day with you present .....hope to see you in Autumn :)Yep :-D

[rstoughy]

Mate, you jinxed Silly two years Ago

I seem to remember a CSL day out where we had torrential rain all day with you present .....hope to see you in Autumn :)

Yep +2
Was a 3 day trip for me that one.....lol

[cslsuperfan]

Get that weighty M3 down to Silly in June Billy! :smokin:

New track to all of us...all even, lets see who is BOSS


Shim,I can narrow the odds...It won't be me but Brett has been inspired by your pax laps @ Spa last year. :supz:

[billyboysm3]

Since picking the car up with 4.1 diff I went to Bedford GT on Sat.

Martin track M3 sorted the diff, I got the 4.1 CWP from BMW and Adem fitted the diff.

Still got all the AKG stuff to fit & H&R anti roll bars.

Its stayed dry all day :)

Ive not driven the car for 3 months since the last track day.

I have to say the 4.1 diff is one of the best mods bang for buck, up there with decent coilovers and AP's.

I have read about 1st and 2nd gear in a 4.1 useless but thats all crap, all I know is this thing pulls like a train and suited my driving style.

I went with Dirty perv john in a standard M3, josh in a stripped out M3 and Shimmy,

Shimmys got some footage folliwng me.

Here are two video's, one just having some fun against track prept E9x M3, M5 and Rs4 and then my best lap of the day, was a 2.48 and held up about 3-4 seconds, theoretical best 2.44. Track wasn't grippy and a fine line between keeping it on the black stuff. Can easily go quicker as in the morning I was using my wet lines and in these vids tried to keep it nice and tight.

I was driving about 85% of my ability and had loads in reserve. Managed to blister the rears, not sure if that was cutting the kerbs on the back chicane. Need some new tyres.

Only mods car has is AP's, Intrax, Diff, pulleys, aero and bonnet which I got black flagged for a the bloody thing never wanted to stay down.

My gopro ran out of space so used iphone was has a dodgy camera.

Video 1 - with Ray as passenger
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtKkESqDewo

Video 2 - quickest lap but held up also with Ray
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hb84Pl4yJa0

Cars off to Adems for all the other bits.

[shimmy]

great going Billy, it was really hard to stay in touch around a big chunk of the track, you were moving with some great pace, turning in very early and on certain corners, just pulling away.

occassionally you even drove on the track between the white lines :hahaha:

there was nothing out there faster all day as far as I could make out, 7RS, E92 (with wings), GTR, Evos......all stayted nicely behind us.

Poor old AMG Merc got some fade and ended straight lining the hairpin by the LPG tank and luckily found the mound rather than the gas tank!!

My fastest was also a 2m48 which on the new layout i reckon is about equivalent to a 2m44 so we both were a little slower than best but loads of traffic and limited runs tbh plus a far to close a call with a tyre wall :whistle:

[s.mac]

Let's forget your quickest lap, track limits clearly not adhered to :whistle:

Did you think you were on a palmer sport day ...

[billyboysm3]

Let's forget your quickest lap, track limits clearly not adhered to :whistle:

Did you think you were on a palmer sport day ...

I did indeed.

Despite it being dry there wasn't a great amount of grip on some of the faster corners.

I was pushing the car each lap to see what grip it had.

First dry track day completed in over a year in the uk

[billyboysm3]

great going Billy, it was really hard to stay in touch around a big chunk of the track, you were moving with some great pace, turning in very early and on certain corners, just pulling away.

occassionally you even drove on the track between the white lines :hahaha:

there was nothing out there faster all day as far as I could make out, 7RS, E92 (with wings), GTR, Evos......all stayted nicely behind us.

Poor old AMG Merc got some fade and ended straight lining the hairpin by the LPG tank and luckily found the mound rather than the gas tank!!

My fastest was also a 2m48 which on the new layout i reckon is about equivalent to a 2m44 so we both were a little slower than best but loads of traffic and limited runs tbh plus a far to close a call with a tyre wall :whistle:

That was a good session we had . Shame about traffic. I learnt a great deal as only really done that track in the wet so had to change my lines and get on it to keep you away from my rear bumper.

Quality day though. Good laugh and banter.

[billyboysm3]

Shimmacher following me at Bedford. Quite a funny video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MO53CGdwdmk

[shimmy]

Shimmacher following me at Bedford. Quite a funny video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MO53CGdwdmk

Not as funny as the bit I cut off the end of it ;(

[Mike R]

What was that undertake all about at the end of the main straight :bigcry: ?

Some nice considerate driving around the slower cars :).

Rear rebound damping on the track-slag looks like it isn't quite right, as it appears to be skipping about under acceleration?

[cslsuperfan]

Enjoyed vid!!

Amazing turn in on the track M3 Billy

What was the Red Porker doing? apart from holding everyone up.

Shimmy, can I see the directors cut?? ;)

[shimmy]

Enjoyed vid!!

Amazing turn in on the track M3 Billy

What was the Red Porker doing? apart from holding everyone up.

Shimmy, can I see the directors cut?? ;)

nothing to see......move down the bus please

[billyboysm3]

Mike i played around with rebound settings and had it on a few clicks off hard. Car felt planted in the drivers seat and used to car moving about.

This is what's going down at adems today.

http://i1000.photobucket.com/albums/af121/billyboysm3/C4549B17-D3F6-48EC-AD21-50548FC2AC47_zps0vx4qrzk.jpg

Solid control arm mounts
http://i1000.photobucket.com/albums/af121/billyboysm3/F145A0D2-C645-4EFB-AB45-A2FFE431175D_zpsm29b2dnt.jpg

H and r anti roll bar
http://i1000.photobucket.com/albums/af121/billyboysm3/C0B44A48-970E-4F4C-B92A-191AB2114442_zpse9sdz2tq.jpg

As the car is at the moment before reddish plates get welded in, rear anti roll bar, solid akg diff bushes and rtab, akg shifter, rear control arms and lightweight flywheel

http://i1000.photobucket.com/albums/af121/billyboysm3/3ED4E938-8956-4D1E-A344-B526C853B64F_zpszk0ha3sy.jpg

[billyboysm3]

Also pink braided clutch hose and solid akg steering coupler.

[billyboysm3]

Adem just called me say this car is insane. Animalistic, like mike Tyson with two cocks.

Martin, he loves the akg gearbox mounts.

Says with the solid control arms, and akg solid coupler make the steering so precise.
Like a go kart.

I'm running hard h and r up front and soft on rear.

With the lightweight clutch he says the car just flex's it's muscles.

[Mike R]

Sounds mega :).

[billyboysm3]

Been distracted of late, front end of the track car ready but still got to weld the plates in and fit AKG solid bushes, missed out on a couple of track days which Im annoyed about.

Bought some new genuine rims for the CSL with Goodyear Eagle F1's and front bumper and splitters getting a rub down and painted.

Binned the slicks for the track car as want to learn how to drive it properly on road tyres. So trying out CUP2 with the OEM 18's stripped and painted in gloss black.

Putting OEM bonnet back and removing wings for these carbon fibre ones.

Going to try and get on track at Snett on the 17th Sept.

http://i1000.photobucket.com/albums/af121/billyboysm3/IMG_7301_zpsmjskfvcf.jpg


http://i1000.photobucket.com/albums/af121/billyboysm3/IMG_7629_zpsssgtl1dn.jpg

http://i1000.photobucket.com/albums/af121/billyboysm3/IMG_7628_zps5onpjfy0.jpg

http://i1000.photobucket.com/albums/af121/billyboysm3/IMG_6902_zpsjhafoig7.jpg

http://i1000.photobucket.com/albums/af121/billyboysm3/IMG_6901_zps4ody1nxu.jpg

http://i1000.photobucket.com/albums/af121/billyboysm3/IMG_7300_zps9hrlrual.jpg

[Mike R]

Looks brilliant, can't wait for a passenger lap :).

Can you get Adem to check the post on the oil catch tank thread he posted up pretty please :P ;) ?

[billyboysm3]

Holy fuck!!!! Just picked car up from Adem, last time I drove it, it was pretty much oem bar coilovers and AP's and 4.1 diff.

The 50 miles home was insane. All akg solid bushes, h and r anti roll bars, rear control arms, solid control mounts, akg shifter, lightweight flywheel clutch, tie rod arms, sparco steering wheel and solid steering coupler, all from Martin, track m3.

The car connects up to the road so well, I love the noise, not over the top. Akg ahifter is awesome, steering is like a go kart, pretty heavy with minimal movement.

Back to Bedford to see how the car handles. Been to Bedford about 5 times now, 3 in this M3. And last track day here. Then off to donny which I've done once before.

Pretty confident that this will be able to hook Bedford up much better than before.

[mattCSLnut]

Holy fuck!!!! Just picked car up from Adem, last time I drove it, it was pretty much oem bar coilovers and AP's and 4.1 diff.

The 50 miles home was insane. All akg solid bushes, h and r anti roll bars, rear control arms, solid control mounts, akg shifter, lightweight flywheel clutch, tie rod arms, sparco steering wheel and solid steering coupler, all from Martin, track m3.

The car connects up to the road so well, I love the noise, not over the top. Akg ahifter is awesome, steering is like a go kart, pretty heavy with minimal movement.

Back to Bedford to see how the car handles. Been to Bedford about 5 times now, 3 in this M3. And last track day here. Then off to donny which I've done once before.

Pretty confident that this will be able to hook Bedford up much better than before.

Sounds Awesome Billy :supz: When are U Trackside with it next ? I'd love to see it in metal.

[billyboysm3]

Bedford gt on Monday. Then donny on the 26th October.

[mattCSLnut]

Bedford gt on Monday. Then donny on the 26th October.
:smokin: I'll see if I can make it over.

[billyboysm3]

Day went well.

My car after the upgrades was insane, spent the day tweaking things.

Uploading Videos in a bit.

Couple of pictures:

http://i1000.photobucket.com/albums/af121/billyboysm3/IMG_8368_5_zps4289d9ki.jpg

http://i1000.photobucket.com/albums/af121/billyboysm3/IMG_8366_3_zps5fz63mpd.jpg

http://i1000.photobucket.com/albums/af121/billyboysm3/IMG_8365_2_zps4vtjzfy1.jpg

http://i1000.photobucket.com/albums/af121/billyboysm3/IMG_8363_1_zpsbzkxv1p9.jpg

New carbon wings
http://i1000.photobucket.com/albums/af121/billyboysm3/IMG_6900_zpsewqkj9bp.jpg

[billyboysm3]

Bedford GT went really well, the car balance is insane. Managed to do lots of 4/5 lap sessions tweaking the tyre pressures and intrax settings. Managed to find the best one's after lunch.

The turn in is like a go kart, I didn't really push the car hard, mainly short shifted and tried different lines.

After session 4 my go pro ran out of battery, had a good video of Jada and his mate in his M3.

3 points of the track where the mods really benefited:
(Akg Solid bushes/engine trans mounts, steering coupler, new arms, H&R anti roll bars front and rear) was the fast right turn after the pits to the main straight. I could take this flat out in 5th but pushed right hand wheels nearly onto the curb. In the end I maintained gas and nailed it when the steering was at a less acute angle.

Chicane at the back straight, I exited the hairpin in 3rd and was taking really tight karting lines as the front end had so much grip, set the H&R front bar to hard and rear to soft. I think I can run rear harder.

I found shifting down to 4th to do the chicane cost me MPH and tended to take it in 5th and carry the speed whilst staying in track limits. MSV marshalls were on top form.

I didnt take the mickey stamping on the brakes first off as didn't fancy miss shifting the AKG Shifter before the turn in. Next time out I could brake halfway between the brake board and turn in cone.

Solid AKG steering coupler with new track rod arms and Bimmer world solid control mounts gave me such precise steering, no play what so ever.

Then the back end of the circuit after the hairpin the car just hooks up the the right hander and quick left, left hander, virtually no roll or lack of front end grip and able to get on power early.

AKG Trans / Engine mount and solid bushes make the car flex, they do give loud cabin noise when warm but the car doesn't move and the balance and confidence through the corners means cornering faster is easy. This car is so easy to drive.

Lightweight fly wheel clutch does chatter when hot, I love it, not sure you want it in a road car.

Martin track m3 supplied all the AKG, H&R parts and my mate Adem fitted all the bits.

I ran -4.5 camber up front and -2.2 on the rear.

Car is still on full fat oem exhaust so will change that over to Superspint cats, non res pipe and miltek back box.

Had a play with a GT3 on here, 3.40 in:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOoZBoMkCYI

My first session in car on cold slicks, car has so much grip, effortless driving:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XKJ7G3liBM

Session 2 with Jada in car:
Drop psi, found the limit on front end grip at 9min 20 seconds.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCuS2JilZW8

Session 3, one of my clients arrived in a f12 berlinetta so thought id take him for a spin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VhQr8pwVcYw

[Graham]

The slicks complete the race car look :sups:

Will watch the videos in a bit :thumbs:

[billyboysm3]

Picture of the inside with AKG Shifter and new steering wheel.

http://i1000.photobucket.com/albums/af121/billyboysm3/IMG_8550_zpswzqvlck9.jpg

[alexk]

very nice !

[cslsuperfan]

Billy

M3 looks the part on those slick rims

Never done Bedford

How do you get on with no reference points.....looks very flat

Has Adem had a blast out yet?

[billyboysm3]

Billy

M3 looks the part on those slick rims

Never done Bedford

How do you get on with no reference points.....looks very flat

Has Adem had a blast out yet?

Track is flat but right on my doorstep. Think that was the 5th time for me at Bedford, 3rd in this M3 so knew the best way round. Tried to take less speed into comers and get on power quicker more like shimmys lines.

Adem took it for a blast and said it was a animal. I drove it to work yesterday as it's bloody fun to drive.

Akg shifter and smaller wheel just add to the fun.

At donington on the 26th october

[Scott]

Billy, this is turning in to a beast. How would you compare it to a modded (suspension/brakes/sticky tyres) CSL now?

Also, why did you ditch the CF bonnet?

[billyboysm3]

Billy, this is turning in to a beast. How would you compare it to a modded (suspension/brakes/sticky tyres) CSL now?

Also, why did you ditch the CF bonnet?

I wanted a OEM fit and got some bonnet grills to go in.

I can only compare it to the CSL with intrax, AP's and cups on square set up.

First off with exactly the same mods the M3 was a bit off the pace, just didn't turn in as well and handle the faster high speed turns.

Since diff, aero, all new solid bushes Id say it is quicker and more stable than the CSL. I find the car effortless to drive. I didn't even push it at Bedford and knew it was quicker from the first session.

Also with the 4.1 diff I am exiting the hairpins in 3rd and short shifting all the way to 6th, so not needing to thrash it, where as other M3's Ive followed on track are in 2nd all the way to 5th on a long straight.

The CSL does have the edge over about 110mph and starts to come back on the straights.

Overall Im really happy that this car corners like a go kart.

[shimmy]

I wanted a OEM fit and got some bonnet grills to go in.

I can only compare it to the CSL with intrax, AP's and cups on square set up.

First off with exactly the same mods the M3 was a bit off the pace, just didn't turn in as well and handle the faster high speed turns.

Since diff, aero, all new solid bushes Id say it is quicker and more stable than the CSL. I find the car effortless to drive. I didn't even push it at Bedford and knew it was quicker from the first session.

Also with the 4.1 diff I am exiting the hairpins in 3rd and short shifting all the way to 6th, so not needing to thrash it, where as other M3's Ive followed on track are in 2nd all the way to 5th on a long straight.

The CSL does have the edge over about 110mph and starts to come back on the straights.

Overall Im really happy that this car corners like a go kart.



What about WITHOUT slicks ;)

[Yanto]

Proper weapon that mate :thumbs:

Just your nomex underwear and HANS device to go and you'll soon be hustling Shim and Barry

[shimmy]

Proper weapon that mate :thumbs:

Just your nomex underwear and HANS device to go and you'll soon be hustling Shim and Barry

Tbh he should be out there now, needs to get permission from indoors I guess :hahaha:

[cslsuperfan]

Tbh he should be out there now, needs to get permission from indoors I guess :hahaha:


Don't we all Shim ;)

[shimmy]

Don't we all Shim ;)

Feckin A

[billyboysm3]

Photo from yesterday:

http://i1000.photobucket.com/albums/af121/billyboysm3/Donny%202_zpsdxrrjjar.jpg

[billyboysm3]

2nd time at Donny, heres my 3rd and last session of the day, managed to find a better line through craners in the later laps.

Really looking forward to next time on Dunlop 03G's.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTnzcLYRrJA

Car was so planted and had plenty more to give.

[shimmy]

car looks ace billy.....but you must do some less busy trackdays with faster cars. Its worth the extra £100 every time.

[Graham]

Car grips so well with the slicks on, wonder if the splitter was helping that aswell?

I thought the track was quite quiet really, but there were a few slow cars. Radical being rented out was the worse thing there!

[shimmy]

Car grips so well with the slicks on, wonder if the splitter was helping that aswell?

I thought the track was quite quiet really, but there were a few slow cars. Radical being rented out was the worse thing there!

you must do some bloody cheap and busy days then Graham......

[billyboysm3]

80 odd cars :(

Shimmy - Going to do some TD with you and Barry next year.
On Dunlops and uniroyals

[shimmy]

80 odd cars :(

Shimmy - Going to do some TD with you and Barry next year.
On Dunlops and uniroyals

last time we did Donny with RMA there were 30

Goldtrack Spa last week were about 50

Anytime Billy - ill let you know SIlly dates as soon as

[Yanto]

Looking good mate. Great lines :beer:

[Graham]

you must do some bloody cheap and busy days then Graham......
Cheap days yes, but this day really wasn't that busy for me, any traffic I came across wasn't difficult to pass. I like having a few cars there anyway I enjoy tussling with people more than doing lap times

Me and Billy going round:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJWWIssX9ys

[billyboysm3]

Bit of a update.

So since my last update I went to snetterton and didn't finish my warm up session. I managed to kill the gearbox, car grinds in 3rd. By the time I drove it home it was also second gear.

So the car has been with Bartletts in huntingdon, it had cracks either side of the subframe. They used the redish plates and filled with resin. Did a awesome job. I could feel the difference straight away.

They told me I was lucky on that last track day as my rear brake lines were passed Awful.

Whilst this was taking place I needed to think about what I want to use the car for, so decided to remove the akg solid bushes as I want a car I can drive as a daily if need be as I sold the CSL end of October.

I replaced the AKG with powerflex yellow. I went for yellow as I want as much flex in the car as possible. This car performed superbly on oem bushes and that's what I am after especially as I only manage to do wet track days. I got them to replace the diff bolt at the same time.

Gareth fitted CAE shifter so managed to get a deal on it whilst sourcing a second hand SMG gearbox. Mines manual but this should of had a easier life. The CAE shifter is awesome. Managed about 500 road miles so cannot wait to get it on track.

I also decided to remove the light weight flywheel and clutch and put back in a oem clutch and flywheel.

As the gearbox was off they changed the akg trans mounts to vibra technics. Did the same with the engine mounts. I went for the competition ones.

Bartletts also removed the front splitter and rear wing and fitted rear carbon diffuser and front carbon full length splitter.

I have ordered a karbonius airbox from Martin, then bought the CSL flap and all other bits from BMW to get the flap working.

I got a sheet of carbon fibre for the radio plate delete and sending the kick plates to mark to carbon fibre.

Since running the removable wheel I had the horn put in the carbon radio delete plate.

I removed the oem exhaust and fitted a miltek back box. So now running supersprint cats, oem centre section and miltek back box.

The car is at my mates garage for paint. I've told him to take it back to showroom condition and spray my new Genuine OEM CSL bootlid. Ordred that as a spare before I sold the car :) Then got LED rear lights going on.

I removed my DTM mirrors as want the car the stay silver and you cannot see anything out of them.

After going this far I thought it was only fair to treat her to some new shoes. I really fancied the apex arc 8 but decided to order two sets of team dynamics in silver so the car always looks clean. They are on a back order and not ready till middle or April :(

All my track day rims have been black for years so fancied a change.

I ordered some uniroyal rainsport 3 265 35 18 for one set and bit the bullet and bought some 265 35 18 dunlop 03g for the other set. So I can arrive and drive and not **** about changing rims. I can compare these to the cups now. I've ran the 02g before so if these are better. Which they will be, I'll be happy.

Won't be able to test these with shimmy and barry or at Bedford as like a idiot sold all my rims as thought the new sets were only a 5 week wait.

Ben at hack engineering supplied a beautiful stud, nut and locking wheel kit. I'll then put 10mm spacers all round.

I have no doubt that even though I have softened the car up when it gets to a track it will still be a weapon. I've been driving it in awful weather and it is awesome.

I put it on the scales before it went off for paint and weighs in at 1355kg with half a tank of fuel and full washer fluid bottle. All sound deadening is still in, with that removed and quarter of a tank it would be good to loose another 20kg.

Car now has these bits on it:

Intrax 1k2
AP's all round with RS29, performance friction front discs and AP rears.
Supersprint Cats
Miltek back box
Bucket seats with harnesses
Carpet in the front
Automac door cards
Solid steering coupler
Bimmerworld solid control bushes
Aircon removed
H&R anti roll bars front and rear
Quick release steering wheel
Front splitter and rear diffuser
Rear control arms
New brake lines
Reddish plates and resin injected
Powerflex yellow subframe bushes and RTAB
CAE shifter
New uniroyal and Dunlop 03G's for square set up.
4.1 diff.

Will upload pictures when I get it back in a couple of weeks.

[billyboysm3]

Next up is a F80.

[Mike R]

Post up pics ASAP (M3) :).

[Jon8710]

billy

I remember the day when you told me you weren't going to throw loads of money into a track day car,

do you remember ??

im glad your having fun mate car looks great

[billyboysm3]

Post up pics ASAP (M3) :).

Few pictures:

Rear Brake Lines:

http://i1000.photobucket.com/albums/af121/billyboysm3/IMG_8739_zpsgljnwjml.jpg

Subframe:
http://i1000.photobucket.com/albums/af121/billyboysm3/IMG_8733_zpslrvegbzp.jpg

http://i1000.photobucket.com/albums/af121/billyboysm3/IMG_8729_zpsnkqohtid.jpg

http://i1000.photobucket.com/albums/af121/billyboysm3/IMG_8751_zpsx8b7t0ux.jpg

http://i1000.photobucket.com/albums/af121/billyboysm3/IMG_8727_zpsdoof3jqy.jpg

http://i1000.photobucket.com/albums/af121/billyboysm3/IMG_8728_zpszhnx0riy.jpg

CAE Shifter:
http://i1000.photobucket.com/albums/af121/billyboysm3/IMG_9846_zpsojbn5y9i.jpg

http://i1000.photobucket.com/albums/af121/billyboysm3/IMG_0232_zpswz6sjf61.jpg

OEM Bootlid arriving:
http://i1000.photobucket.com/albums/af121/billyboysm3/IMG_9876_zpsud0kdqad.jpg

Vibra Technics Engine & Trans mounts:
http://i1000.photobucket.com/albums/af121/billyboysm3/IMG_0758_zps1ngvvqdp.jpg

http://i1000.photobucket.com/albums/af121/billyboysm3/IMG_0234_zpsvhhe4faz.jpg

http://i1000.photobucket.com/albums/af121/billyboysm3/IMG_0237_zpssrnmjqcz.jpg

http://i1000.photobucket.com/albums/af121/billyboysm3/IMG_0235_zpsybr2gaj5.jpg

Front Splitter & Diffuser:
http://i1000.photobucket.com/albums/af121/billyboysm3/IMG_9955_zpshn4i31pw.jpg

http://i1000.photobucket.com/albums/af121/billyboysm3/IMG_0231_zpsbibg5d9v.jpg

http://i1000.photobucket.com/albums/af121/billyboysm3/IMG_0155_zpswborvauf.jpg

Ordered new Uniroyal Rainsport 3 for Square set up on New TD rims, 265 35 18
http://i1000.photobucket.com/albums/af121/billyboysm3/IMG_0195_zpshmlfox3n.jpg

Ordered new Dunlop 03G for new TD rims 265 35 18
http://i1000.photobucket.com/albums/af121/billyboysm3/IMG_0483_zpslltmujdh.jpg

http://i1000.photobucket.com/albums/af121/billyboysm3/IMG_0484_zpsxvegfzsx.jpg

Then put it on the scales with half a tank and full washer fluid:
http://i1000.photobucket.com/albums/af121/billyboysm3/IMG_0436_zpsuohidyff.jpg

Car is currently in the bodyshop, Ill post up the final pictures when my TD arrive in April.

[billyboysm3]

billy

I remember the day when you told me you weren't going to throw loads of money into a track day car,

do you remember ??

im glad your having fun mate car looks great

I do indeed, the car is where I want it now.

Just need to sort the sound deadening out and put rear carpet in and rear carbon door cards.

And try and get it down to 1400kg with qtr tank and driver.

[Mike R]

Glad you're losing that rear wing - I never liked it :P ;).

[billyboysm3]

Glad you're losing that rear wing - I never liked it :P ;).

I might be faster down the straights now.

[shimmy]

you might go faster in the corners as well!!

nice tyres....:smokin:

[billyboysm3]

nice tyres....:smokin:

:)

[rstoughy]

Rear wing for sale Billy??
I'm looking for one at this very minute.

[billyboysm3]

Rear wing for sale Billy??
I'm looking for one at this very minute.

It's in my office ready to go. Text me or chat tomorrow.

[rstoughy]

It's in my office ready to go. Text me or chat tomorrow.

Will give you a shout tomorrow then mate :thumbs:
Car'd out so off to the scratcher.

[billyboysm3]

Few pictures from Bedford at the weekend. TD alloys still not arrived so borrowed some slicks:

http://i1000.photobucket.com/albums/af121/billyboysm3/PR_160327_MSVT_BA_0585_zpskxyxwsra.jpg

http://i1000.photobucket.com/albums/af121/billyboysm3/PR_160327_MSVT_BA_0533_zpsdjkqzjtj.jpg

http://i1000.photobucket.com/albums/af121/billyboysm3/PR_160327_MSVT_BA_0702_zpsymbpejqk.jpg

Had slight drizzle all day, interesting stuff after lunch on cold slicks, uploading video's to youtube.

[billyboysm3]

Car has plenty of potential.

For those that are interested, first proper stint of the day, ended up doing a few laps then waiting for something decent to chase at 9.38
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6lou341XsE

Part 2 of 1st session:
Blue E46 vert M3, E9x, 350z, M5
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJa6F7GPE3Q

Session 2:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJa6F7GPE3Q

Part 2 session:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOmwfLyGR0I

Session 3 on cold slicks after lunch in drizzle:
BMW M3, Intrax, AP's, 4.1 diff.
Duncan following me on Cup2, I let him go at 8.40ish while I get heat into the slicks, a few spins by other cars, track starts to dry out.
At 12 min I pick up the pace as tyres gave me more confidence, nice little drag race with Duncan down the back straight, next up SG M3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-al0Ot3IKSE

Session 3 Part 2:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNjAhWPEztc
4 door BMW, R8 two M5's, E9x M3, track drying up

Session 3 Part 3:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQueyAdU0TM

[shimmy]

got thru haldf of them billy, will save the rest for later

out of interest (minus slicks) where do you seriously think the comparison is with you m3 v your csl in true pace (as it was set up)

[billyboysm3]

got thru haldf of them billy, will save the rest for later

out of interest (minus slicks) where do you seriously think the comparison is with you m3 v your csl in true pace (as it was set up)

Ok, this M3 is set up perfectly, all mods have been great, you have followed me at Bedford and it corners really well.

4.1 is a fantastic mod.

The CSL has always had more power it feels up the rev range, say past 100 mph. With this M3 having no engine mods I think the CSL would just have that extra acceleration up the back straight. Im still changing gear at 7k revs to be nice to her.

With the rear wing removed I was 10 mph faster on the back straight hitting over 140mph. I think your CSL does that with ease on your fast lap.

My CSL dyno'd at 382 bhp and the other CSL's with maps are probably up near that.

Id say this might dyno at 300-320 bhp.

For it to really piss all over a tricked up well driven CSL it will need maybe cams and airbox and map, need another 20-30bhp.

Im sure it will stick quite close to yours and Barry's CSL bumper at the moment, well yours as Barry's is OEM.

When are you both next on track? Silverstone or Snett?

Should have rims middle to end of April.

Also what do you think is possible lap time at Snetterton in the CSL now, say average lap time, depending on temp and track conditions.

Your 2.10 is a monster time, could be done in a race car but think this car is to heavy.

Last full TD at Snett I was 2,15 in the damp/drizzle on slicks.

But before the gearbox failure first session was the quickest Ive ever been round but no go pro footage.

[shimmy]

Ok, this M3 is set up perfectly, all mods have been great, you have followed me at Bedford and it corners really well.

4.1 is a fantastic mod.

The CSL has always had more power it feels up the rev range, say past 100 mph. With this M3 having no engine mods I think the CSL would just have that extra acceleration up the back straight. Im still changing gear at 7k revs to be nice to her.

With the rear wing removed I was 10 mph faster on the back straight hitting over 140mph. I think your CSL does that with ease on your fast lap.

My CSL dyno'd at 382 bhp and the other CSL's with maps are probably up near that.

Id say this might dyno at 300-320 bhp.

For it to really piss all over a tricked up well driven CSL it will need maybe cams and airbox and map, need another 20-30bhp.

Im sure it will stick quite close to yours and Barry's CSL bumper at the moment, well yours as Barry's is OEM.

When are you both next on track? Silverstone or Snett?

Should have rims middle to end of April.

Also what do you think is possible lap time at Snetterton in the CSL now, say average lap time, depending on temp and track conditions.

Your 2.10 is a monster time, could be done in a race car but think this car is to heavy.

Last full TD at Snett I was 2,15 in the damp/drizzle on slicks.

But before the gearbox failure first session was the quickest Ive ever been round but no go pro footage.

Not sure I can get 2:10 again at Snett, that was a good lap.

[billyboysm3]

Not sure I can get 2:10 again at Snett, that was a good lap.

Legendary lap!!!!

Even Mr O'Neil couldn't hit it.

2.13 more like it?

[s1csl]

Not sure I can get 2:10 again at Snett, that was a good lap.

Why has the instructor retired :hahaha:

[shimmy]

Why has the instructor retired :hahaha:

coz I get more scared every year!

[Loaded]

coz I get more scared every year!

Nice!

[billyboysm3]

coz I get more scared every year!

So decided to go racing :)

[s1csl]

coz I get more scared every year!

When are you free for a track day again in the CSL, it was fun last year at Bedford and I need to see if I have improved, I done this day with Billy and my best was 2.50 to 3.00 but the track was a bit greasy and understand its no where near your times but feel I could go a bit faster, I understand if you are busy, Regards John

[shimmy]

When are you free for a track day again in the CSL, it was fun last year at Bedford and I need to see if I have improved, I done this day with Billy and my best was 2.50 to 3.00 but the track was a bit greasy and understand its no where near your times but feel I could go a bit faster, I understand if you are busy, Regards John

tbh John, been very busy recently, not taken a day off for a TD recently.

we should go somewhere newish like Oulton

[s1csl]

tbh John, been very busy recently, not taken a day off for a TD recently.

we should go somewhere newish like Oulton

Yep good idea, MSV have a day at Oulton on Tue 24th May or just pick one and let us know

[cslsuperfan]

tbh John, been very busy recently, not taken a day off for a TD recently.

we should go somewhere newish like Oulton


John/Shim

would be good to tag on

Oulton Park is reasonably local

[shimmy]

May is a good shout, will check the dates

[O'Neill]

Would be up for oulton, the little lotus will float like a butterfly and sting all M3 :blalalala:

[shimmy]

Would be up for oulton, the little lotus will float like a butterfly and sting all M3 :blalalala:

If it doesn't break down first:)

[billyboysm3]

I cannot do any date in May but looking to do two days per month in June, Jul, August & September.

[billyboysm3]

Also never been to Oulton so that should be pretty cool.

Billy

[billyboysm3]

Rims arrived today.
Glittery silver, pictures do not do them justice.

Need to fit front and rear pads before snetterton on the 27th.

Uniroyal rainsports 265 35 18 for one set and Dunlop 03G's on the other set.

Seat time and tuition is my plan for the summer.

http://i1000.photobucket.com/albums/af121/billyboysm3/1296A50E-DFD3-4FFE-A126-3D1A869A367F_zpsyvrcwijn.jpg

http://i1000.photobucket.com/albums/af121/billyboysm3/3DAC64C8-5D7C-465A-B157-D041B47335E1_zpszpp7vpmj.jpg

[billyboysm3]

Each box says they weight 8.8kg versus 11.8kg on the rear 18inch oems I've been running
http://www.whichwheels.co.uk/car/bmw/m3/

[billyboysm3]

Will be good to see what these are like compared to cups.

http://i1000.photobucket.com/albums/af121/billyboysm3/CF0AB4A6-96ED-48C1-B5C1-BB19B4BFFE49_zpsfhbxagm5.jpg

[CraigMillwardCroft]

They look good time will tell :thumbs:

[cslsuperfan]

Billy

will be interesting to hear your feedback on 03G's against cups.

Rims look ace. Far to shiny at the mo.....a couple of sessions will sort that.

;)

[Mike R]

If my discs arrive, I should be at Snett in Rhonda the Honda on the 27th as well :).

Cams have arrived with the CSL now as well - just waiting for paint to be done :).

[billyboysm3]

If my discs arrive, I should be at Snett in Rhonda the Honda on the 27th as well :).

Cams have arrived with the CSL now as well - just waiting for paint to be done :).

Have you booked as its sold out. I might need to work now so my place might be up for grabs

[Mike R]

Have you booked as its sold out. I might need to work now so my place might be up for grabs

Was going to just turn up as there is always an old Lotus there that shits itself :bigcry:.

[shimmy]

Was going to just turn up as there is always an old Lotus there that shits itself :bigcry:.

substitute alternative for TVR, Noble etc

[billyboysm3]

Alloys on:

http://i1000.photobucket.com/albums/af121/billyboysm3/92F9FB55-5B3C-4359-B73D-6483D8FFC95C_zpsiuf9bgod.jpg

http://i1000.photobucket.com/albums/af121/billyboysm3/25540902-75AC-4452-9D1A-1CFAC3400CEA_zpsfuankfxo.jpg

http://i1000.photobucket.com/albums/af121/billyboysm3/741DDFED-90D2-44E0-A7CA-7DAAD4B31118_zpsiqz2iv0b.jpg

[billyboysm3]

So went to Snetterton yesterday to try out the Dunlop 03G.

What a awesome road legal tyre.

Mixed conditions, damp, dry, sunny, sleet then rain.

Heres a picture of first session:
http://i1000.photobucket.com/albums/af121/billyboysm3/7C0FCDA8-BC56-442C-87C9-61A31FC7C4E3_zpsmj5jztww.jpg

So got to try the tyres on a drying track.

Really impressed with the damp grip and especially on the road.

http://i1000.photobucket.com/albums/af121/billyboysm3/7C0FCDA8-BC56-442C-87C9-61A31FC7C4E3_zpsmj5jztww.jpg

http://i1000.photobucket.com/albums/af121/billyboysm3/65012E05-7C90-4717-B134-F1A3097B6031_zps5kkmmobl.jpg

As good as full fat cups if not better.

Compared to the slicks you cannot carry as much speed into the corner and have to brake earlier.

On my last session I had these squealing around Riches and Coram when the track was colder.

Being able to arrive and drive was pretty cool.

I didn't manage to have any clear laps but judging by this I can do 2.15 in traffic with a 2.13 best.

Id say with more tuition and a warmer day a 2.11 is achievable.

Not quite on Shimmy's and Barry's pace but getting closer.
No engine mods or maps.

http://i1000.photobucket.com/albums/af121/billyboysm3/370C98EA-A8E5-409C-93DE-D2A3419C0E9D_zpsy1ypnlxo.png

Nice to get some pax laps off Samr and that he is also capable of delivering some decent times. Sam managed a second quicker than me 2up.

Ill be at Snetterton again soon before Donny.

[s1csl]

Nice one bad boy, its true then you are not a 1 lap wonder, don't do any racing you will be winning all the time;)

[billyboysm3]

Nice one bad boy, its true then you are not a 1 lap wonder, don't do any racing you will be winning all the time;)

Need a dry warm day to see if this car can consistently do 2.11 on standard engine before air box, cams or remap.

[shimmy]

S
http://i1000.photobucket.com/albums/af121/billyboysm3/370C98EA-A8E5-409C-93DE-D2A3419C0E9D_zpsy1ypnlxo.png

.

nice consistent laptimes Billy :whistle:

[s.mac]

How's the trims ;)

[billyboysm3]

How's the trims ;)

Going to open the box later if I have time

[billyboysm3]

So sent ecu off to mike, mike did his thing and I went to his Saturday.

I had Csl snorkel so wanted a working flap.

Mike was a sound genuine guy and the map and the way the car pulls is insane.

It has totally transformed the car especially up the Rev range and pushing on.

Comparing it to my Csl this m3 is bloody quick, the Csl was 383bhp on the dyno, I wouldn't know what this is but can really feel the difference and smoothness when giving it full beans.

Looking forward to Donny and then Snetterton after that.

http://i1000.photobucket.com/albums/af121/billyboysm3/3F92387B-279E-4668-8E78-AC9D847ACB90_zpsbtnenvmb.jpg

[cslsuperfan]

Billy

The car really is looking the part now

It's probably best not to tot up the spend in front of the wife ;)

[billyboysm3]

Billy

The car really is looking the part now

It's probably best not to tot up the spend in front of the wife ;)

She's knows the crack. Each time I buy some mods it costs me a mulberry bag :(

This has finished the car now bar fitting interior back in

[billyboysm3]

Fitted LED rear lights. And had some bits turn up at work today and finally managed to open the box that Ben at Hack Engineering sent me about 5 months ago with some decent locking nuts and stud set as want to run 10mm spacers all round.

My new anti rattle clips turned up with anti squeal Shims to hopefully stop the pads moving about. As the rears are doing my head in.

The car on track and on the road has perfect readings on oil and coolant but it's never been great in traffic and fed up turning heaters on in summwr. After going on the Mishimoto site and reading through their tests the rad and electric fan out perform the E46 OEM cooling system. As I'm driving to Donny thought I'd order the Rad and fan with shroud plus probe.

They look awesome and weigh nothing.

Also got a new exhaust going on for Donny, so running the same set up I ran on the CSL.

Changed the oil and been using some additive last couple of times. Seems to of made the engine quieter.

Took car for a spin last night. It's bloody rapid.

http://i1000.photobucket.com/albums/af121/billyboysm3/1D8F0FA5-B6E1-4B58-952B-464492C63F0A_zps2basyvgq.jpg

http://i1000.photobucket.com/albums/af121/billyboysm3/A114A09F-495B-42DE-9373-67B90C6CAB64_zpsdx11p4lf.jpg

http://i1000.photobucket.com/albums/af121/billyboysm3/579B7B99-A1FF-4AC3-9FCC-DEB932763C75_zpsj2wbeptv.jpg

http://i1000.photobucket.com/albums/af121/billyboysm3/43A6B289-91D9-4440-B06E-F82438097B8D_zps0h0vqsub.jpg

http://i1000.photobucket.com/albums/af121/billyboysm3/C6131EA0-46D9-4C9F-B8FF-0D32F3C97B01_zpsukrhyjlk.jpg

http://i1000.photobucket.com/albums/af121/billyboysm3/DE76B260-38EE-4D1A-B813-DDDBD318104E_zpsqnbgxprd.jpg

[CraigMillwardCroft]

do the lock nuts have hole all the way through to allow for long studs, need to get some for my car as off to SPA in August and need to locks wheels on.

[s1csl]

Nice little upgrades there, I hear there a couple more going on before Donny ;)

[billyboysm3]

do the lock nuts have hole all the way through to allow for long studs, need to get some for my car as off to SPA in August and need to locks wheels on.

Nice little upgrades there, I hear there a couple more going on before Donny ;)

Oh yes. Have fun at beford today :)

[billyboysm3]

do the lock nuts have hole all the way through to allow for long studs, need to get some for my car as off to SPA in August and need to locks wheels on.

Yes they do, that's why I bought them to allow me to run 10mm all the way round.

[billyboysm3]

Thought I'd better shift some weight with some quick M3's going to Donny. This popped up and was the perfect solution.

http://i1000.photobucket.com/albums/af121/billyboysm3/75B1C38B-FFDA-4F36-85DE-E1964106F2A7_zpstkr2bueq.jpg

http://i1000.photobucket.com/albums/af121/billyboysm3/080AF4D7-8B1A-44BD-89A7-801BB68A1A6C_zpsrdzqqmph.jpg

So it should sound something like this:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gZcxDe7ZpG8

Finally fitted smacs carbon trims, broke the bloody clips :(

[billyboysm3]

Rad and electric fan in

http://i1000.photobucket.com/albums/af121/billyboysm3/BDD68F25-6021-4336-B428-3EF564BBA417_zpsjt6mwduu.jpg

http://i1000.photobucket.com/albums/af121/billyboysm3/D525F6F5-575E-4547-86FF-96212DADFFF3_zpsofwfac25.jpg

With switch for me to turn on inside cabin

http://i1000.photobucket.com/albums/af121/billyboysm3/1D222FD2-876E-41F2-BD2C-D6A1B97DFC82_zpsjelvpeia.jpg

Fitted new rear anti rattle clips and some anti squeal pads to stop rear brakes rattling around.

Left the car ticking over for about 45min and Mishimoto rad and fan kept car nice and cool.
Fan kicks in at 80•

Previous electric fan and OEM rad would take 5 min then needle would start rising which is no good in traffic.

Going to put some miles on the car tomorrow around town.

Supersprint lightweight race also on, I'll take a picture tomorrow.

With airbox sounds exactly like my old Csl. Roll on Donny.

[billyboysm3]

Gave uniroyals a quick clean

http://i1000.photobucket.com/albums/af121/billyboysm3/A661394B-512F-4690-B8D9-8AB892103E3B_zpsjbfgvvie.jpg

[billyboysm3]

And a knackered set of slicks a quick clean.
http://i1000.photobucket.com/albums/af121/billyboysm3/EC7FF192-2223-4E80-9FA9-4E79D94DF33A_zpsgs6trge8.jpg

[billyboysm3]

So absolutely well chuffed. Managed a good 45 min blat this morning to make sure car was running fine before the 2 hour treck to Donny on Friday.

New Mishimoto Rad and Electric Fan with probe really does help maintain and keep the temperature down.

In traffic it sits maximum a couple of mm off centre to the left but when driving sits just above quarter.

Previous set up was OEM rad and electric fan and makes this seem mickey mouse considering mine used to overheat in traffic after a few min when hot and have to have heaters on.

Supersprint lightweight race sounds just as good as I remember, great around town and combined with airbox sounds lovely pushing on. Saved another 5kg probably. So running supersprint cats and OEM centre section to save a few db.

Finally the knocking of the rear RS29's has stopped, put new anti rattle clips in and mintex Anti squeal 3M pads. Managed to get heat into the pads and thank the lord they do not knock anymore.

Car feels so much smoother through the gears and will be good to see what the straight line speed is like on track as always short shifted on track days, maybe the car was running rough before and didn't feel right when ringing its neck out and just got used to it. The car has never felt fast in a straight line till now.

Will be nice to see what its like compared to the other M3's at Donny as Ive based my build on this car being able to handle better than the CSL on Intrax and AP's.

[Yanto]

Good to catch up today mate....pics look great.

Dirty Perv and Nik Nak will be hung out to dry on Fri :hahaha:

[billyboysm3]

Mishimoto rad and electric fan kept water down all day.

Car felt amazing, think by the last session I fully worked it out. Really want to go back now.

I managed 187 track miles yesterday. So 90+ laps. With a couple of warm ups but tended to do minimum of 3 and sometimes 5 cool down laps to perfect lines and keep off brakes.
Just under 400 for the day, 100 miles to track, 100 miles back. Blast back with john was a laugh. Found a KFC on route so I was happy.

I ran for me a conservative geo, only -3.2 upfront. Which I knew by the end of the day I would muller the front passenger left due to rising the kerbs after craners and the blind right turn before back straight.

Morning started off Damp and I found the track didn't really runner in.

I bought a infra red temperature gauge and found on my setup I only had a difference of 10 Celsius from inner to outer edge in front and rear.

I just couldn't get a good amount of heat into them, played with 26 hot, 28 hot, 30 hot, then ran at 25 hot. Was taking 3 laps to get ready.

Had a good spin/drift on first lap of a session on cold slicks by Mcleans, braked hard, turned in and rear over took the front, nailed throttle, let go of wheel (andy walsh thought me that)
Then ended up going straight on.

Unlike Ade, in the gravel trap.

This is the first track day since airbox and supersprint race. For me they just completed my build as this whole build has been based on the feel and noise from my old Csl on track.

Even though I ran slicks the dunlop 03G would do that.

I managed to record 90% of the day and had most cars on, only the first session filmed the correct way. All my other footage is of Me driving like this.

http://i1000.photobucket.com/albums/af121/billyboysm3/946B3DE7-A618-45CB-B252-3D7AB26E7534_zps0buolhmr.png

Here are a few other pictures from the day.

http://i1000.photobucket.com/albums/af121/billyboysm3/4B425F50-B68C-4E33-9216-CFEFC72BF02A_zpso5pzowte.jpg


http://i1000.photobucket.com/albums/af121/billyboysm3/F0EE1447-C007-41D0-9E4D-826659409D29_zpsj6invfb5.jpg

Mine and johns. Went out with john twice. By the end of the day john really impressed me. Very quick, I watch him display some good skills on track.

http://i1000.photobucket.com/albums/af121/billyboysm3/BF9E4876-005D-47B6-8D48-5A78B0DD524D_zpsgg9xnmuq.jpg

If you want to watch loads of videos of my head this is the only one I have that's forward facing. I'm gutted as had some really good sessions, one had about 10 M3's on and Ariel atom :(

This is 2nd session, out of pits behind this lot, cold ish slicks and track getting some heat into it. Has black m3, silver grey m3 and m3 cup car. Had a chat with Luke after, really nice guy. Hopefully I can get racing one day when the kids are older.

Enjoy
https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=B336pHlBRT0

[billyboysm3]

Also good to catch up with smac, tom and Steve's client :)

Hope they had a good time :) the Csl sounded awesome on full chat!!

[cslsuperfan]

Superb pic of John's and yours.

Sounds like you've got the car set up 100%

We must sort a euro tour ASAP.

[billyboysm3]

Changed discs and pads over. Had a touch as had a new set of front pads and bells lying around so was quicker to swap over.

Disc's didn't actually look the best: Inside looked the same with a few big cracks. Snapped a set of discs before and not again.

http://i1000.photobucket.com/albums/af121/billyboysm3/IMG_3571_zpslqhhl4yc.jpg

Old v New:
http://i1000.photobucket.com/albums/af121/billyboysm3/IMG_3569_zpsawpmxa2x.jpg

Fitted:
http://i1000.photobucket.com/albums/af121/billyboysm3/IMG_3573_zpssqnr6kao.jpg

My anti squeal pads lasted 100 road miles, 87 laps of Donny and the 100 mile drive home.

So had a look to see what state they were in as started to knock:
http://i1000.photobucket.com/albums/af121/billyboysm3/IMG_3574_zps1qzi5icz.jpg

Stuck the new pad on:
http://i1000.photobucket.com/albums/af121/billyboysm3/IMG_3575_zpsbxwufj0q.jpg

This is the stuff I put in with the oil:
http://i1000.photobucket.com/albums/af121/billyboysm3/IMG_3578_zpsjzokwowk.jpg

My steering has a bit of play after Donny and need to fit some new wishbones as ball joint knackered.

Gave the old bird a clean:
http://i1000.photobucket.com/albums/af121/billyboysm3/IMG_3487_USE_zpswjlz7h8a.jpg

http://i1000.photobucket.com/albums/af121/billyboysm3/IMG_3485_zpsdfgwb414.jpg

Got some slicks to fit:
http://i1000.photobucket.com/albums/af121/billyboysm3/IMG_3488_zpsa7dcx8ym.jpg

[billyboysm3]

Just found these old skool picts:
http://i1000.photobucket.com/albums/af121/billyboysm3/2E851433-2906-4432-9AC7-BD8DD6EDAD16_zpsa8zoggdu.jpg

http://i1000.photobucket.com/albums/af121/billyboysm3/F8A79316-D290-44CF-ABA7-A355DD0761FE_zpsujwfngt2.jpg

[AlexGTT]

Looks really nice Billy. :thumbs:

Really not sure you need the oil additive. I've always been against them. Regular oil/filter changes will do all the protection you'll ever need. Damage only starts after the oil breaks down.

[shimmy]

Those discs were goosed Billy:supz:, good decision.

When are you out next?

[billyboysm3]

Those discs were goosed Billy:supz:, good decision.

When are you out next?

Out at Snetterton on the Monday 26th, are you racing at the weekend before?

[billyboysm3]

So when both wishbones were removed we found someone fitted aftermarket passenger side wishbone. So the drivers side was still ok after 59k miles and the aftermarket one had failed in probably less than 10k miles.

Both were replaced with OEM Wishbones. Steering feel is now perfect.

Went back to a more track orientated geo front and rear.

http://i1000.photobucket.com/albums/af121/billyboysm3/IMG_3666_zpsdwugsipl.jpg

http://i1000.photobucket.com/albums/af121/billyboysm3/IMG_3668_zpsxqcmwv2z.jpg

New PF discs through the TD rims.
http://i1000.photobucket.com/albums/af121/billyboysm3/IMG_3670_zpsartjjgk5.jpg

Looking forward to Snetterton in a couple of weeks.

[shimmy]

Out at Snetterton on the Monday 26th, are you racing at the weekend before?

No, decided not to do Cadwell but might venture out to Oulton in October.

I do Fancy a TD

[billyboysm3]

No, decided not to do Cadwell but might venture out to Oulton in October.

I do Fancy a TD

Get it booked, just me and John going through MSV.
http://www.msvtrackdays.com/car/calendar/2016/sept/26-sn-gen.aspx

Ive got a garage. You can jump in with me and show me where Im going wrong.

[shimmy]

Get it booked, just me and John going through MSV.
http://www.msvtrackdays.com/car/calendar/2016/sept/26-sn-gen.aspx

Ive got a garage. You can jump in with me and show me where Im going wrong.

Slicks scare me!!

[s1csl]

Nice work bad boy, snetty should be a good day wiped 2sec of my pb last time

[shimmy]

Nice work bad boy, snetty should be a good day wiped 2sec of my pb last time

Good going JOhn, Road tyres or slicks?

[rstoughy]

Car is looking great Billy :thumbs:

I stuck 2 new OEM wishbones onto mine the beginning of the year. Pricey but worth it.

[billyboysm3]

Think Snettertons got a whole lot grippier, I killed the dunlops last time out with poor geo and knackered wishbone. Used the settings for cups, -3.2 front and -2.2 rear.

Ill run slicks.

Paul > defo worth it, with all these things, buy cheap buy twice

[shimmy]

Seems cheap but slicks = knackered wishbones, worn joints, worn diff, prop and possible cracks......cars not mean to take the stress billy

[billyboysm3]

Nice work bad boy, snetty should be a good day wiped 2sec of my pb last time

You should be pretty quick now the amount of TD you've done over the last year.

[billyboysm3]

After 87 laps of Donny I made a coffee table for work with these:

http://i1000.photobucket.com/albums/af121/billyboysm3/IMG_3716_zpsx9la7cxc.jpg

Geo was very conservative for slicks.