CAT Driver Training Milbrook Saturday 9th May 09

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Performance Driver ‘Track’ Day

An action-packed day run by CAT Driver Training Ltd at Millbrook Proving Ground.

CAT Driver Training is run by Colin and Jo Hoad. Colin used to work for a leading motor manufacturer in the UK as a Vehicle Evaluator and Driver Trainer and has gained extensive experience and qualifications in driver instruction. This includes being certificated to instruct at Millbrook. His life has been spent working with his passion: motor cars - from racing minis to the race preparation of performance cars. He has much experience of vehicles on both road and track and brings a very different approach to driver enjoyment.

The day is a fast moving experience for up to 8 owners and their cars to introduce the secrets of performance driving. It is designed to be informative, exciting and fun. The group size is purposefully kept small so that the maximum can be obtained from the day in a highly personalised environment.

There is access to the 5 unique circuits at the renowned Millbrook Proving Ground, a venue that is not normally accessible for ‘track days’ and the general public.

Activities designed for the different circuits are:

• Learn ‘threshold’ braking from 100+mph on the ‘Mile Straight’
• High speed driving, potentially to the maximum of your car, on the banked circuit of the ‘High Speed Circuit’
• Drive the demanding ‘Alpine Route’ circuit with its hills, and variety of corners from hairpins to long and sweeping
• Take on the tight, twisty and challenging ‘Handling Circuit’
• Put a car through its paces on the wide open spaces of the ‘Steering Pad’/Mile Straight Apron

An instructor will accompany you on all the circuits, and the objective is to teach you how to get the best from your car and develop your performance driving skills in a controlled environment and at a pace you are comfortable with.

Short presentations in vehicle dynamics will help you to understand the relationship between driver input and vehicle balance and control. From this comes the appreciation of how to safely drive your vehicle at ‘grip limit’ within the controlled confines of a track environment.

At the end of the day, your new found skills can be put to the test in a timed ‘shoot out’ around a gymkhana-style course laid out on the ‘Steering Pad/Mile Straight Apron’. This will be conducted in one of CAT Driver Training’s track prepared cars (normally a Subaru Impreza or a Caterham 7).

Included in the day are:

• Professional in car tuition
• Access to 5 unique circuits at Millbrook Proving Ground
• Mechanical support from a professional race engineer
• Lunch and refreshments during the day
• Timed end of day ‘shoot out’ in one of CAT’s track prepared cars
• Full emergency services on hand all day
• 1½ hours driving time with your personal instructor

Price £340 per person







Performance Driver ‘Track’ Day Schedule

Training Course Title: Performance Driver ‘Track’ Day
Duration: 1 day
Date: Saturday 9th May
Venue: Millbrook Proving Ground, Bedfordshire
Number of Trainees: 8
Training Vehicles: Trainees own cars
Circuits Used:
 Mile Straight
 High Speed Circuit
 Alpine Route
 Handling/Dynamics Circuit
 Steering Pad/Mile Straight Apron

Schedule
08:30 – 09:15 Coffee, Introduction, Licence Check, Scrutineering, Safety Briefing &
Objectives of the Day
09:15 – 09:20 Drive to Circuits
09:20 – 10:30 Mile Straight
10:30 – 11:40 High Speed Circuit
11:45 – 13:15 Handling Circuit
13:15 – 13:45 Lunch
13:45 – 15:20 Alpine Route
15:20 – 16:00 Understeer/Oversteer or Open Practice
Mile Straight Apron/Steering Pad
16:00 – 17:00 Gymkhana timed ‘Shoot Out’
Mile Straight Apron/Steering Pad
17:10 Presentation & Debrief
Any Questions
End

Timings & Circuit order may be subject to change on the day depending on circuit activity


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[SMD]

Perfect! My Birthday present! :beer:

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* All details to be forwarded directly to CAT using the proceedure below *

To confirm your place, payment will need to be made in full by 31st March 2009 directly to CAT at the very latest (Payment can be made by bank transfer, cheque or debit and credit cards. The latter attract merchant fees currently of 1.85% of the value (1.94% as of 1st March)). A non-refundable * deposit of £175 can be made now to reserve your place if this is easier for you, with the balance paid by the due date. Note: this day is for a maximum of eight people. Places will be given on a first paid first served basis.



I will need the following information from you to prepare your confirmation pack and for security purposes at Millbrook:


Name
Address
Contact Number
Email address
Vehicle on the day
Number Plate
Colour of vehicle

You need to hold a full driving licence and this must be brought with you to Millbrook to be checked on the day.

Please either call me: 01234 757633 or email me: info@catdrivertraining.co.uk with your details requested above plus most importantly your payment method. If you wish to send a cheque our address is: 50 Lincroft, Cranfield, Beds. MK43 0HT and they should be made payable to CAT Driver Training Ltd.



Confirmation packs will be sent out once all members have paid in full.



* If we do not get the full 8 members required, it is possible that the day will still go ahead so long as there is a minimum of 4 people. With 6 it can still run but odd numbers of 5 or 7 do not work. CAT will make the decision based on interest at 31st March 2009. If there are less than 4 people paid up at this time then those that have paid will have their deposits/full payments refunded to them, less any merchant fees.

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Incase any people are worried :gayfight:

Over exertion of the car?
As to spanking your car, the day is structured to allow steady progression of your driving skill and ability. We never push people further than we feel they can go in the time allowed. Your safety and the condition of your vehicle is the priority throughout the day. We always remember that you have to drive your car home! There is ample opportunity to allow your car to cool down in between sessions - this ensures brakes and mechanical parts are not overheated.

Damage to tyres?
After a Performance Track Day you will not need to change your tyres. We have the benefit, unlike disused airfields, of being able to use a facility that is honed for vehicle evaluation and driver training. On the High Speed Circuit - 2 mile banked circuit - you will be able to potentially experience VMAX in your car. If we move on to the Mile Straight you will quite comfortably be braking from 120mph to the vehicles limit of adhesion - to give it its correct title - threshold braking. At no time will you find yourself in a situation where you are stressing the vehicle to the point that you will experience a high tyre wear rate. Our objective is always to give you a training experience that you can build on on the road or on the track, without compromising the condition of your vehicle. If we felt the training would damage your vehicle then we would use a CAT vehicle designed for the job.

Noise: So long as your car is not noisier than a Le Mans Formula 1 prototype then you are ok! These cars are tested at Millbrook with no issue over noise levels so you should be fine.

Spectators: as the facility is a Proving Ground there is no access for pedestrians around the circuits.

Insurance
Millbrook Proving Ground is a private off road facility. Due to the nature of the work carried out there your normal road insurance would not cover you on the circuits.

We work closely with Competition Car Insurance (previously known as Eger Lawson) who are part of Towergate. They will provide insurance cover for the trainees vehicle on our training days at Millbrook if you feel this will give you peace of mind, but each quote is based on the persons own circumstances and most importantly the value of your car.

For a quote you need to state that you are attending a CAT Driver Training day and reinforce that it is one to one instruction on circuit. They suggested that this key fact will generally reduce the quote by up to a half.

Some discounts are offered for our clients on annual policies.

The telephone number to call is 0115 941 6146. Please then ask for the Track Day / Event Department.

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Dont forget first come, first served! :whistle:

Please add your names if your coming, so I can keep up to date this end!

Roll up! Roll up! :thumbs:

[SMD]

(1) SMD!!!

Will get deposit sorted for them! :thumbs:

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(1) SMD!!!
(2) 2Bar

Only 6 more to go! :blalalala:

[sailorbaz]

1. SMD
2. 2bar

I've had to take my name off the list I'm afraid. I won't get home until the 8th May and I still have to get from Central Scotland to Millbrook. And thats proividing I get off on time, which at the moment is very unlikely. I'm sorry, its just too close to chance.

Will keep an eye on the posts though and if there is any chance I can make it and there's a space available, I'll take it. Was looking forward to it too.
:banghead:

Many apologies if you feel I've wasted anyone's time. :notworthy:

[2bar boost]

Will double check that with Jo for you in the morning Baz, as I know she is in the office :-D

I have a contact from the MLR who can put us in the know regarding good hotels , safe parking etc

Will report back tomorrow :wink:

[karbonkid]

Im there on this one for sure. What is the confirmed date? Whats the price normally, £375 on the day with a total of 8?

[glendog74]

I'm in too 2barboost! Good work mate :-D

1. 2bar
2. SMD
3. karbonkid
4. glendog74

[s.mac]

1. 2bar
2. SMD
3. karbonkid
4. glendog74
5. s.mac

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Sorry to hear it's too close to call SailorBaz :bigcry:

As said if this proves successfull other days will be advertised :thumbs:

Confirmed date is the 9th May assuming we can fill it, must be an even no. i.e. 4,6 to a max of 8

Deposits to be paid to CAT £175 non refundable to secure your place, then the balance to be paid in full before the 31st March..

Please use the phone numbers in the proceedure at the start of the thread!

Thanks for your interest :smokin:

1. 2bar - deposit paid
2. SMD
3. karbonkid
4. glendog74
5. s.mac - cheque en route

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Im also looking into hiring a professional (official Time Attack photographer)

Who will be able to capture some fantastic Alpine route shots :thumbs:

Obviously this is down to a costing issue, which will be discussed if we can fill the event first :beer:

[SMD]

Im also looking into hiring a professional (official Time Attack photographer)

Who will be able to capture some fantastic Alpine route shots :thumbs:

Obviously this is down to a costing issue, which will be discussed if we can fill the event first :beer:

Sounds great mate! :thumbs:

[CATDT]

Hi Everyone

Thought I'd sign up to help 2bar boost with any questions you may have along the way. Good to 'meet' you :thumbs:

The CAT team are really looking forward to hosting a great day for you to explore your cars and develop your knowledge and techniques.

If I can help in any way, please just ask.

Kind regards
Jo

[SMD]

Cheers Jo! :beer:

[anissut]

Chaps, I am thinking of doing this day. It's my bday on 9th May so thought it would be a nice pressie that the wife can give me :hahaha: . Do we need to get the full 8 for it to work?

[E46ACS]

GUTTED!!!!! :moan: I can't do the 9th May..... :banghead:

And I so wanted to do this....... I have a couple of mates that are interested so I might arrange a date a bit later in the year.

Have fun chaps!

[CATDT]

Do we need to get the full 8 for it to work?
Hi anissut

See the below:

* If we do not get the full 8 members required, it is possible that the day will still go ahead so long as there is a minimum of 4 people. With 6 it can still run but odd numbers of 5 or 7 do not work. CAT will make the decision based on interest at 31st March 2009. If there are less than 4 people paid up at this time then those that have paid will have their deposits/full payments refunded to them, less any merchant fees.

Trust this answers your query!

Jo

[SMD]

Chaps, I am thinking of doing this day. It's my bday on 9th May so thought it would be a nice pressie that the wife can give me :hahaha: . Do we need to get the full 8 for it to work?


My BirthDay also! :thumbs:

[Mark CSL]

CATDT

Welcome to the site i have some questions

Do you get the full day driving ?
and what is included drifting and the like ?

[anissut]

Yeah, I would love to learn some drifting as I'm not very confident with it. Wouldn't mind impressing my wife with a few drifts round the local roundabouts. :hahaha:

[CATDT]

CATDT

Welcome to the site i have some questions

Do you get the full day driving ?
and what is included drifting and the like ?

Thanks Mark.

Each attendee will be with their instructor for 1.5 hours across the day as 'free access' within Millbrook is not permitted.

Activities designed for the different circuits are:

• Learn ‘threshold’ braking from 100+mph on the ‘Mile Straight’
• High speed driving, potentially to the maximum of your car, on the banked circuit of the ‘High Speed Circuit’ - looking at vehicle balance at high speed, correct focal point, as well as technical aspects such as compliance steer and bump steer
• Drive the demanding ‘Alpine Route’ circuit with its hills, and variety of corners from hairpins to long and sweeping - covering advanced road and track cornering techniques
• Take on the tight, twisty and challenging ‘Handling Circuit’ - covering advanced road and track cornering techniques
• Put a car through its paces on the wide open spaces of the ‘Steering Pad’/Mile Straight Apron - exploring understeer and oversteer plus stability programmes

Plus the end of day gymkhana using either our Caterham 7 or Subaru Impreza.

Please give us a call in the office on 01234 757633 if you would like a more indepth description of the programme for the day.

Drifting is a separate course which we are happy to provide - along with many others in our menu and can incorporate use of your own car if you wish.

Jo

[SMD]

The drift day also sounds good Jo! Can i have a little bit of info on it please? :-D

[CATDT]

The drift day also sounds good Jo! Can i have a little bit of info on it please? :-D

Here's the link to the course on the website ...

http://www.catdrivertraining.co.uk/cat2caterham.shtml

It's one of the most technically demanding skills to master and you are taken through each element building your knowledge and technique as you go. If you'd like the full itinerary let me know.

Jo

[CATDT]

Post just received, thanks s.mac :thumbs:

1. 2bar - deposit paid
2. s.mac - deposit paid
3. SMD
4. karbonkid
5. glendog74
6.
7.
8.

Jo

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Come on guys dont let this fall on it's arse :gayfight:

Learn the true race craft before the drift day!!

[SMD]

Will get my deposit sorted asap! :thumbs:

Are you thinking of a Drift day aswell later in the year?

[shimmy]

how about this, open to all cars


i really fancy it



http://www.ekmpowershop9.com/ekmps/shops/mazdaontrack/drifting-days-29-c.asp

[anissut]

how about this, open to all cars


i really fancy it



http://www.ekmpowershop9.com/ekmps/shops/mazdaontrack/drifting-days-29-c.asp

Wow, that sounds cheap!!!!! Sounds almost too good to be true.

I would be interested as well at that price.

[Mark CSL]

Yip i would be up for this as well :thumbs:

[SMD]

Yea sounds good and not far from me! :beer:

[2bar boost]

Some fantastic news has arrived!

As some of you may of noticed that CAT now have a banner ad running on the site, offering full support for training and development for M3 CSL owners within the forum :-D

As a gesture of goodwill for approaching CAT they are offering a £35 discount on this course!

New course price £340

[SMD]

Sweet! :beer:

[s.mac]

As a gesture of goodwill for approaching CAT they are offering a £35 discount on this course!


nice, can't beat a bit of goodwill :thumbs: :thumbs: :thumbs:

[shimmy]

will they also invoice it as company driver training ? :whistle:

[CATDT]

will they also invoice it as company driver training ? :whistle:
Driver training is a legitimate business expense and the invoice will be issued to the entity you advise.

We are also VAT registered and this price includes the current 15% rate.

Trust this gives you the answer you were hoping for :-D

We're really pleased to be working with the Register as a trading partner and look forward to a long relationship that is enjoyable as well as beneficial for all members.

Jo

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Sorry to have lost track of whats going on guys but my wife was rushed back into hospital early hours of Sunday morning..
After being released with whats to be thought of as a hospital infection :wanker:

It's been an exhausting period, looking after our newborn Sonny and my 2yr old daughter Eva who was missing her mum massively :whistle:

She's hopefully on the mend and was released home last night :-D
Looks like it will take some for her to be back on her feet though but im sure Jo will be on hand to sort out any questions...

[Mark CSL]

2bar boost
Glad to here she is on the mend
Tell her the CSLREGISTER send best wishes hope she is well soon :thumbs:

[CATDT]

Really sorry to hear that 2bar boost - I wish you all a speedy recovery.

We've got a big birthday celebration at the moment so I'm off line for a few days. But all will be back to normal next week.

Best regards
Jo

[AlexGTT]

Hi Jo and Colin. Met you when I was with the GTR club at Nurburgring in October.

I can highly recommend CAT Driver Training to anyone. Very professional and can confirm Colin is uber knowledgeable around 'Ring, amazing many with his pace in a humble Ford Mondeo. :notworthy: :wink:

Look forward to seeing you guys again this year sometime.

[CATDT]

Hi Jo and Colin. Met you when I was with the GTR club at Nurburgring in October.

Look forward to seeing you guys again this year sometime.

Hi Alex - great to 'see' you again .... we haven't decided on the dates yet for the annual jaunt but no doubt you'll hear when we do!

Jo

[2bar boost]

Dont forget people, you have until the 31st March to get paid up :thumbs:

[glendog74]

How many are on the updated list?

I'm still keen to go but would prefer if there are a few CSLs going :whistle:

[CATDT]

Current status is:

1. 2bar - deposit paid
2. s.mac - deposit paid
3. SMD
4. karbonkid
5. glendog74
6.
7.
8.

The following had previously stated interest in the initial thread:

Mark csl
DazBlackCSL
bryce86
Jaw_F430
Bealo
Derek
Woolfy

Jo

[karbonkid]

I am considering but possibly need persuading. Im trying to get my mates E92 M along, but he said its not really suitable for it. He prefers to keep it all looking pretty.. In the garage!

[2bar boost]

:axe: How much persuassion do you require ;)

[s.mac]

Hi, any update on deposits paid ?

is this still going ahead, it seems only two have made payments?

[glendog74]

I'm in if we fill the 8 slots - haven't paid yet :whistle:

[Mark CSL]

I cant make it sorry
:bigcry:

[s.mac]

I'm in if we fill the 8 slots - haven't paid yet :whistle:


I think 6 or even 4 makes it a goer ;)

[derek]

im still interested but its a long way to drive , been driving to telford weekly at the moment and its about a 5 hour drive

[CATDT]

Current status based on comments posted is:

1. 2bar - deposit paid
2. s.mac - deposit paid
3. SMD
4. karbonkid - needs persuading but hasn't told us how ;)
5. glendog74 - would like all 8 places filled (so would we :thumbs:)
6.
7.
8.

The following had previously stated interest in the initial thread:

Derek - can offer you lots of tea & cake to make the journey worthwhile:partyman:there are also numerous accommodation options to help you get a good nights sleep :smt041

DazBlackCSL
bryce86
Jaw_F430
Bealo
Woolfy

Only a couple of weeks to make your decision. Any questions let me know.

Jo

[s.mac]

yep I will be stopping over the night before :beer:

[karbonkid]

A colleague from work Is a photography nut & did say if I go he would be happy to come along and photograph the day if wanted, as someone previously suggested.:thumbs:

Im 70% there on this one. Did think of a 1 on 1 thou, more attention! ;)

[derek]

i should be able to make it, will confirm next week

[Bealo]

Sorry guys, i can't be 100% sure i will be in the country on the day and i'm not prepared to lose the deposit if i'm not.

[CATDT]

Any more for any more? Just over a week left before the decision to release the second instructor needs to be made.

In case this helps here are some quotes from feedback received from our clients this week:

"Thanks for an excellent day yesterday - really enjoyed the day and learnt a huge amount. I have done a number of track day and racing events and this was by far the most rewarding." AW - Beds

"Excellent venue - the best course, great equipment." SF - Surrey

"I just wanted to thank you for your instruction this morning. I have plenty to think about now and to put into practice this season.

I wanted to refresh my basic car control skills, iron out the obvious faults, learn some new techniques, gain some confidence and have some fun today, and I did just that. I have no doubt that I will have more confidence to smoothly and progressively nibble away at my times up the hills." SM - Hants

Jo

[karbonkid]

Im still up for it, who else i going to make up the numbers?

[s.mac]

not looking good for this event if we don't get some more deffo's :whistle:

[karbonkid]

How many places are confirmed? Can these places be filled with non CSLs to make up numbers? Got two potential non CSLers interested.

[s.mac]

2 places are confirmed :whistle:

[CATDT]

How many places are confirmed? Can these places be filled with non CSLs to make up numbers? Got two potential non CSLers interested.
I have no problem with this if you guys don't. Better the places are taken than the event is cancelled - but it's your call.

Jo

[bryce]

I'll not can make this, its the weekend of my birthday and I'll be quite drunk :beer:

[s.mac]

Got two potential non CSLers interested.

can you firm this up mate, I can't make the Sunday with the other group, it's Saturday or nothing for me, we need the numbers;)

[karbonkid]

1. 2bar - deposit paid
2. s.mac - deposit paid
3. karbonkid - despoit on its way
4. N.C - deposit on its way
5. T.C - awaiting confirmation
6. glendog74 - would like all 8 places filled (so would we :thumbs:)
7. SMD?
8.

[glendog74]

Cheque sent! :smt047

1. 2bar - deposit paid
2. s.mac - deposit paid
3. karbonkid - despoit on its way
4. N.C - deposit on its way
5. T.C - awaiting confirmation
6. glendog74 - full payment on its way
7. SMD?
8.

[Bealo]

Like i have said earlier i can't commit to a deposit as i won't know where in the world i will be at that time.

If i am in the UK and you guys need someone last minute to make up the numbers then i will be there with money and car.

[SMD]

Sorry guys! As said its my Birthday on the 9th and my family have sorted a days Karting for me and alot of friends!:beer:

[CATDT]

Wow, what a difference a day makes :thumbs:

Bealo - just for reference, how long before the date will you know your plans i.e. a week before, the day before? Useful to know in case we can keep the place potentially open for you.

Derek was another potential who might know his plans by now?

I'm out of the office at an all day event tomorrow, but Amanda will be in 09:30 - 14:30 hours if you want to call to make your payments (01234 757633).

Any others who might be interested?

Jo

1. 2bar - deposit paid
2. s.mac - deposit paid
3. karbonkid - despoit on its way
4. N.C - deposit on its way
5. T.C - awaiting confirmation
6. glendog74 - full payment on its way
7.
8.

[s.mac]

Great news :thumbs:

[Bealo]

Wow, what a difference a day makes :thumbs:

Bealo - just for reference, how long before the date will you know your plans i.e. a week before, the day before? Useful to know in case we can keep the place potentially open for you.

Derek was another potential who might know his plans by now?

I'm out of the office at an all day event tomorrow, but Amanda will be in 09:30 - 14:30 hours if you want to call to make your payments (01234 757633).

Any others who might be interested?

Jo

1. 2bar - deposit paid
2. s.mac - deposit paid
3. karbonkid - despoit on its way
4. N.C - deposit on its way
5. T.C - awaiting confirmation
6. glendog74 - full payment on its way
7.
8.



I should hopefully know before the end of April where i will be.

If i know sooner, ie can't make it i will let you know.

[CATDT]

Thanks glendog74 for your payment which arrived yesterday :thumbs:

Bealo - appreciate that :)

Jo

1. 2bar - deposit paid
2. s.mac - deposit paid
3. karbonkid - despoit on its way
4. N.C - deposit on its way
5. T.C - awaiting confirmation
6. glendog74 - fully paid
7.
8.

[s.mac]

1. 2bar - deposit paid
2. s.mac - deposit paid - outstanding on route ;)
3. karbonkid - despoit on its way
4. N.C - deposit on its way
5. T.C - awaiting confirmation
6. glendog74 - fully paid
7.
8.

[CATDT]

Thanks s.mac - Postie has met their end of the deal :thumbs:

1. 2bar - deposit paid
2. s.mac - fully paid
3. karbonkid - deposit on its way
4. N.C - deposit on its way
5. T.C - awaiting confirmation
6. glendog74 - fully paid
7.
8.

Jo

[CATDT]

:smt023 Thanks 2bar

1. 2bar - fully paid
2. s.mac - fully paid
3. karbonkid - deposit on its way
4. N.C - deposit on its way
5. T.C - awaiting confirmation
6. glendog74 - fully paid
7.
8.

Anymore for anymore?

Jo

[derek]

Hi Jo,
Just got your pm will call you tomorrow morning and decide one way or other tomorrow.

thanks
derek

[s.mac]

Jo, I believe there are no noise limits but do you have the facility to test noise levels, I may have a new system on and would be interested to see if it would pass for normal track days

[Mark CSL]

I might do this will let you know by friday :thumbs:

[CATDT]

do you have the facility to test noise levels

Sorry we don't. I'll ask at Millbrook and see if they do - but don't hold your breath!

Jo

[CATDT]

Great to speak with you Derek :)

1. 2bar - fully paid
2. s.mac - fully paid
3. karbonkid - deposit on its way
4. N.C - deposit on its way
5. T.C - awaiting confirmation
6. glendog74 - fully paid
7. Derek - deposit paid
8.

Maybe just one place left ................

Jo

[CATDT]

I might do this will let you know by friday :thumbs:
Have you made a decision yet Mark :-D

Jo

[CATDT]

Just spoken with karbonkid .... thanks Alex for your payment. Look forward to hearing from your +1 this afternoon :smt023

1. 2bar - fully paid
2. s.mac - fully paid
3. karbonkid - fully paid
4. N.C - £££'s expected
5. glendog74 - fully paid
6. Derek - deposit paid
7.
8.

The event is definitely going ahead :). I have some other car club members who are interested in the date and will keep the last two places open for one more week.

Confirmation packs will then go out with all details.

So if any other CSL members would like these last two places - shout now :thumbs:

Thanks
Jo

[Mark CSL]

Have you made a decision yet Mark :-D

Jo

I cant make it sorry

[derek]

Any one booked or plan to book any accomodation for the Friday night

[karbonkid]

I fortunately live 1 hour drive, but could recommend someone local to me if preferred? or there will be loads closer to Milbrook.

Few local to Milbrook Derek:http://www.catdrivertraining.co.uk/stay.shtml

[2bar boost]

Haven't decided what to do yet for accomodation, may well just drive down sat morning as im not too far away either ;)

[glendog74]

Any one booked or plan to book any accomodation for the Friday night

I'm not sure yet mate. I may book accom as i'm probably over 3 hours away. Still undecided. I could come up that morning but it's an early start! :banghead:

[CATDT]

1. 2bar - fully paid
2. s.mac - fully paid
3. karbonkid - fully paid
4. N.C - fully paid
5. glendog74 - fully paid
6. Derek - deposit paid
7.
8.

Confirmation packs will be going out next week. There's still time for 2 more CSL members to join in, but I'm also working on other interested parties.

Derek - if you'd like more information on places to stay locally let me know. If you're down early enough we may be able to join you for a bite to eat.

Jo

[CATDT]

Packs have gone in today's post. With any luck you'll receive them tomorrow, or by the end of the week at the latest.

Any questions or problems let me know.

Thanks
Jo

[glendog74]

Thanks Jo :smt001

[s.mac]

pack turned up today, thanks :thumbs:

[karbonkid]

Same. Ta Joe

[glendog74]

Me too :smt003

[s.mac]

I see the tyre limit is 3mm does this apply to cup tyres Jo ? or would the guys recommend normal road tyres for the day ?

Thanks

[CATDT]

I see the tyre limit is 3mm does this apply to cup tyres Jo ? or would the guys recommend normal road tyres for the day ?

Thanks
Let me check with Colin in between training sessions today .... The 3mm is a recommendation as performance starts to be lost after this. My technical knowledge doesn't extend any further I'm afraid to know if there is a difference between road and track/racing tyres ... so I'd better ask the expert!

Be back once he's finished Drifting.

Jo

[CATDT]

Checked with Colin and cup tyres are fine so long as you will have enough tread at the end to get home ... fyi the legal limit is 1.6mm. The surfaces at Millbrook are not aggressive, unlike disused airfields - tyre wear and brake wear will be minimal.

Spares can be brought along if you have them and tyres changed if needed. Remember we'll have our engineer on hand all day to assist.

Hope that helps but if you'd like to chat directly with Colin let me know.

Jo

[s.mac]

Great, thanks Jo

[2bar boost]

Not long now!! Hope the weathers good :thumbs:

[glendog74]

Not long now!! Hope the weathers good :thumbs:

Yeah - Ring and Spa to go first this weekend! ;) :hahaha:

[2bar boost]

My cars ill :bigcry: Hopefully its a quick fix :birdman:

Depending how busy the local stealers are! :banghead:

[CATDT]

My cars ill :bigcry: Hopefully its a quick fix :birdman:

Depending how busy the local stealers are! :banghead:
What news? Hoping it's positive.....

Jo

[derek]

Hi anyone got a spare litre of oil i can buy thats going on Sat, i might need to top up my car, im working in the telford area and struggling to get to a bm garage before Sat due to work cheers derek

[2bar boost]

What news? Hoping it's positive.....

Jo

Never had a chance to call earlier Jo sorry! Very busy day at work..

Warning lights off now so cancelled the trip to BM until after sat as no doubt it will crop up again!!

[CATDT]

Derek - if you let me know exactly what spec it is you need I can see if our Engineer can get it for you.

I hope that's good news 2bar and it doesn't show itself again .....

Millbrook postcode in case anyone has missed it is MK45 2JQ ..... please use this and not our office address - you'll have a very boring day if you do ;)

Looking forward to seeing you all on Saturday - famous last words but the weather isn't looking too bad at the mo :thumbs:

Jo

[s.mac]

Millbrook postcode in case anyone has missed it is MK45 2JQ ..... please use this and not our office address - you'll have a very boring day if you do ;)

Looking forward to seeing you all on Saturday - famous last words but the weather isn't looking too bad at the mo :thumbs:

Jo

I've now spotted the postcode hand written in the corner :gayfight:

der :whistle:

[glendog74]

Hi anyone got a spare litre of oil i can buy thats going on Sat, i might need to top up my car, im working in the telford area and struggling to get to a bm garage before Sat due to work cheers derek

Derek - i can nip into Halfrauds or BMW for you tomorrow if you haven't already sorted something out.

Just let me know :beer:

[derek]

Hi Glendog thanks for that, i send a pm to Jo last night who may be able to get the oil, if you can get some oil it would be appreciated better to much than not enough. It was my first long journey for some and it may just be the level settling down, syaed constant after the first 50 miles .I thinks it castrol tws 10-60 from memory but im sure you know the oil. Got a 100 miles today from Telford to millbrook tonight so hopefully the level is okay at 0.4
cheers Derek

thanks for your help

[CATDT]

Sorry was away overnight .... am waiting to hear from our engineer so hopefully we'll be able to sort ... but as you say if glendog can help too we'll have it fully covered!

s.mac - glad you have now spotted it!

Jo

[glendog74]

Hi Glendog thanks for that, i send a pm to Jo last night who may be able to get the oil, if you can get some oil it would be appreciated better to much than not enough.

No worries - i actually have half a bottle left but will grab some more today for you.

Rob :beer:

[2bar boost]

See you tomorrow people :thumbs:

[derek]

just drove down got accommodation locally see you all tomorrow

[s.mac]

just drove down got accommodation locally see you all tomorrow

I may wish I had done that, put it in the nav and it's 3 hours....
hopefully not that long on a Saturday morning :whistle:

[glendog74]

I may wish I had done that, put it in the nav and it's 3 hours....
hopefully not that long on a Saturday morning :whistle:

Me too - 3 hours+ !

[Bealo]

Have fun guys and let us know how you got on :thumbs:

[glendog74]

Got back about an hour ago from Milbrook - what a superb day! :supz:

A well run, very comprehensive training day encompassing many disciplines and all expertly taught by Colin and Nick supported by Jo and Mark (mechanic).

The weather was kind to us and remained nice and dry enabling proper exploitation of the CSL near the limits of grip performance! Oh, and the limits of a Ford Mondeo! ;)

Milbrook itself is most impressive and simply huge. The Alpine loop routes are great to drive at speed and flying around the high speed oval at +150mph is something else!

It all culminated in a time attack competition in a Caterham - big fun from such a piddly little car. I have a newfound liking for them now! :hahaha:

All in all a great day and thoroughly recommended indeed - i wish i had done this a year ago when i got the CSL but it was still of great benefit today as the instructors pick up on your experience and push you accordingly :thumbs: Unfortunately no photos as they have 'secret' stuff going on now and then and don't allow cameras! They were testing the Lotus Evora and various Aston Martins today when we were there.

Big thanks to the team at CATDT :smt023

Rob.

[s.mac]

I have a newfound liking for them now! :hahaha:


well you will do as you won :birdman:

don't I feel a t_t doing a donut because I thought I'd done alright :whistle:

same as though, great team and only leaves you wanting more.
I'm sure Colin was the same but Nick was a top instructor !!!

Thanks to all the team :thumbs::thumbs::thumbs:
I had a great day and with a great set of lads, (edit) and JO.

Well done Rob with the win, we knew you were the one to beat ;) but hey it was a team day and we trounced you lot :birdman:

[glendog74]

hey it was a team day and we trounced you lot :birdman:

:hahaha: Fair one!

Forgot to say - it was great meeting the lads from the Register too:

s.mac
2bar boost
derek
karbonkid + mate

:beer:

P.S. s.mac - get youself on the Ring trip - you know you wanna! ;)

[2bar boost]

Millbrook is definately a stunning arena to hone your skills and learn new ones.. The scenery is something else:drool:

It feels awe inspiring driving from the gates to the hospitality suite, let alone once your out there amongst it :thumbs:

Have to say for me I managed to get a lot out of the day and find a new confidence in the CSL as I honestly seemed to struggle a fair bit with the transition from 450bhp Evo IX GT to RWD.. Must admit the confidence did take a long time to show through on the high speed bowl :whistle: How close is the wall :bigcry: Colin said now imagine your a NASCAR driver a lot more speed involved and 40 odd cars to miss :hahaha:

Shoe horning my 18st frame into a Caterham was interesting to say the least and im quite sure I must of posted the worst time due to this extra mass.. Derek even removed his shoes to be pin sharp with braking and throttle movements :smt118

Glad the day went ahead and the members had a chance to sample what CAT have to offer ;) Their professionalism is second to none! From the moment you book til you leave the gate no question is too small.. So a big thank you to all of the CAT team, looking forward to working with you again shortly :beer:

[Bealo]

Glad to hear that you guys had a great day and that the weather was good to you....

[karbonkid]

Well being rushed from the night before lead to turning up on someones private driveway in Millbrook after putting in the office address, not the training ground was a great start! :banghead: Sorry for the hold up guy. Missed the safety brief but Jo filled us in.

You guys speak for everyone, but like to say again what a top day. So professionally run with good comedy value through the day, especially towards the end on the gymkhana. :hahaha:

I would like to give the drift/ nurburg prep a shot next and spend more time on the track as I found 4-5 laps was just enough to get a taster before being able to get into it. Before you know it your turning off and heading back to base.

Thanks again to Jo for the organising of such a exhilarating day not forgetting Nick, Colin and Mark for their experience guidance throughout the day.

Great meeting the rest of the gang on here. Hope to see you all soon on another CSL adventure. :thumbs:

[derek]

Thanks for a great day Colin, Nick, Jo and Mark. Really enjoyed it and learnt a lot. One thing i forgot on the feedback can you paint lines for the gymkhana in the future as it would have helped some of us:hahaha: Good to meet everyone from the forum. Well worth the drive thanks again:thumbs:

[CATDT]

Good to know you all made it back safely. Likewise we had a great day and enjoyed working with you. Congrats to glendog, Noah and 2bar:

1st in the Gymkhana = glendog74
Driver of the Day = Noah (friend of karbonkid)
Quiz = 2bar boost

glendog - you'll be pleased to know your time has got you on to the league table in position 4. The page on our website will be updated this week and will look like this (apart from the formatting ;)):

CATERHAM GYMKHANA CHALLENGE
END OF DAY CAR CLUB EVENT
League Table

Club Date Driver Time(secs) Position
NYLOC 23/08/08 Richard Isherwood 42.09 1
MLR 03/08/08 Mark Eddy 42.19 2
AAOC 20/09/08 Alan Pomroy 42.25 3
CSL Register 09/05/09 Robert Glendinning 42.75 4
MLR 02/03/08 Steve Hewson 43.09 5
GTROC 10/05/09 Steve Bottomley 43.53 6
AAOC 06/10/07 Bruce Fielding 43.69 7
MLR 21/10/07 Steve Forster 43.78 8
GTROC 24/05/08 Richard Allen 43.84 9
GTROC 07/07/07 Mo Kassem 44.06 10

Look forward to seeing you all soon and I'll let you know the dates for our annual jaunt to the 'Ring in case you'd like to join us.

Jo

[csl_mba]

Did he have a trailing wind :hahaha::whistle:

[glendog74]

Did he have a trailing wind :hahaha::whistle:

:blalalala: :blalalala:

Well i didn't want to mention it but i was chuffed to win of course! :whistle:

I even won a personalized prize - just like the F1 drivers :hahaha:

http://i728.photobucket.com/albums/ww282/glendog74/P1000207.jpg

[csl_mba]

Nice one Rob :beer:

[s.mac]

Well i didn't want to mention it but i was chuffed to win of course! :whistle:

it's was close :banghead: a great bottle of plonk, a competitive and fun way to finish the day off:thumbs:

[Bealo]

Well done Glendog :thumbs::thumbs: