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Windowlicker
14-02-2009, 09:33 PM
Hi there,
Anyone here run a standard system with a s/s race backbox?
If so , how loud is it, does it sound as nice but better than the standard system?
Any pics of one fitted to a csl anyone?
Thanks , Nick
sailorbaz
14-02-2009, 10:43 PM
I think IanM3 might be running one over on Mtorque...He was going to go the unsilenced mid-pipe too but thought it was nice enough with just the SS Backbox.
Not a CSL but worth a nosey anyway. I'll have a wee look-see too. :thumbs:
Windowlicker
14-02-2009, 10:47 PM
I think IanM3 might be running one over on Mtorque...He was going to go the unsilenced mid-pipe too but thought it was nice enough with just the SS Backbox.
Not a CSL but worth a nosey anyway. I'll have a wee look-see too. :thumbs:
Thanks dude, any info much appreciated :beer:
Daz has just ordered one from Thorney he will let you know very soon nick! :-D
Youtube movie , CSL with SS race backbox
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fy8zdvM4trw
Pic of a SS fitted
http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/7373/csl3fj5.jpg
That sounds Perfect with just the backbox fitted! :smokin:
Groupbuy? :whistle:
Windowlicker
14-02-2009, 11:44 PM
Youtube movie , CSL with SS race backbox
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fy8zdvM4trw
Pic of a SS fitted
http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/7373/csl3fj5.jpg
Thanks for that Flow,
Be interesting to hear if its liveable with as a daily driver or if its too intrusive.
2bar boost
14-02-2009, 11:58 PM
On the to do list Supersprint or Gruppe M :thumbs:
Imho it's fine standard but that noise is addictive not intrusive :119:
RichW
15-02-2009, 12:03 AM
Sounding very nice indeed! :smokin:
:thumbs:
bryce
15-02-2009, 03:02 AM
From the video, I dont like. Seems to have lost the rasp.
Like anything though, needs to be seen/heard in the flesh.
benCSL
15-02-2009, 06:28 AM
At the end of the movie, my black csl had the SS race + xpipe with resonnator...
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=W2H5G3J5
Andyk
15-02-2009, 06:58 AM
On the to do list Supersprint or Gruppe M :thumbs:
Imho it's fine standard but that noise is addictive not intrusive :119:
A chap in my street has a Gruppe M on his CSL and it is just too loud...and for me it spoils the character of the CSL as it sounds like any other car with a load exhaust added. Doesn't have that distinct CSL sound any more.
Woulds imagine it would fail most noise test at track as well.
karbonkid
15-02-2009, 10:57 AM
That sounds Perfect with just the backbox fitted! :smokin:
Groupbuy? :whistle:
Yes please!
(1) KK
p.s was speaking to Loaded engineer and he recommended too. :thumbs:
glendog74
15-02-2009, 11:18 AM
Does sound good! Not so sure about the driver in that video scaring the driver of that oncoming car though :hahaha:
The Gruppe-M backbox is really too loud .
A friend of mine had it on his M3 , Too loud and did not like the sound of it .
karbonkid
15-02-2009, 01:02 PM
Anyone know what thorney cars run? I really want to keep the characteristics of the distinctive Rasp etc ... but added volume of noise. Might pay em a visit for a demo drive and ask for a group buy :thumbs:
CABIN SOUND: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83Cihhd4hhs
houlbt
15-02-2009, 02:40 PM
Old clip of my CSL with a Supersprint. Can be difficult getting on some trackdays with a full system.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cF3eoWVdCwo
windy
15-02-2009, 02:42 PM
I got a Gruppe M for my lowly M3 for a trip through Europe, and it was a bit of a laugh, drowning out everyone in the tunnels. But when I got home it drove me insane :119: so I flogged it.
Drive by (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRd73vF-wNQ)
Stelvio 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQluWhgGMf8&feature=channel_page)
Accelerating (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ApW2FH8o794&feature=channel_page)
And even from a fair way away it was loud...
Stelvio 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sui6gAPIN9g&feature=channel_page)
If there was some way to turn it on/off I'd have kept it for those odd times when you want your car to deafen you, but otherwise it became a pain to live with. And you can imagine how much 'fun' it was once I moved to Manchester and got myself an underground parking space...
:wanker:
s.mac
15-02-2009, 02:51 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qju9iEFqp3Y&feature=PlayList&p=83674234C13A320C&playnext=1&index=38
thinking de cat for the summer :-D
2bar boost
15-02-2009, 03:01 PM
Maybe its just me, you can take the boy out of Essex and all that :hahaha:
Sounds ok outside for me but interior cam would be the test of time :119:
s.mac
15-02-2009, 03:10 PM
Sounds ok outside for me but interior cam would be the test of time
unbearable day to day, but as windy says
it was a bit of a laugh
If there was some way to turn it on/off I'd have kept it for those odd times when you want your car to deafen you
agreed
karbonkid
15-02-2009, 04:52 PM
[quote]If there was some way to turn it on/off I'd have kept it for those odd times when you want your car to deafen you
agreed
This is one for you then and pretty cheap too. :smokin: :whistle:
http://www.cslregister.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1323&highlight=exhaust
I am thinking BMW got it right with the CSL Noise with exhaust and airbox! :thumbs:
Andyk
15-02-2009, 06:14 PM
I am thinking BMW got it right with the CSL Noise with exhaust and airbox! :thumbs:
Would have to agree.....The Gruppe is just shocking...I get neighbours complaining to me about 'my mate in the CSL' you can hear him coming from miles away.
My wife heard it and thought it was a a tuned Jap car.......now thats not good...Everyones different but leave well alone I say.
Yea been there with the Jap cars and not going back with the CSL!
bryce
15-02-2009, 09:06 PM
That Gruppe M's horrid.
Not even for fun :banghead:
sailorbaz
15-02-2009, 09:11 PM
I HAD the GruppeM and at 1st it was fantastic, what a noise, did sound awesome but it got tiresome. I've now got Milltek BB only. Perfect.
Thorney run Milltek full systems, AFAIK.
DazBlackCSL
16-02-2009, 09:58 AM
Anyone know what thorney cars run? I really want to keep the characteristics of the distinctive Rasp etc ... but added volume of noise. Might pay em a visit for a demo drive and ask for a group buy :thumbs:
CABIN SOUND: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83Cihhd4hhs
Running full lightweight race , for some reason even tho its the full race system , it not too loud , and you dont lose the rasp either , hence why I went for it , might be on this week , as its coming in from SS italy ...
Agree with all the comments , and I do not want to have a loud tacky sounding car , and I think the SS just gets it right , and the tails are std looking , but a little wider and meaner than std too...
But you guys can can all see , and hear on our trip, or at one of the CSL cup meets so all cool :wink:
Windowlicker
16-02-2009, 11:30 AM
Anyone know what thorney cars run? I really want to keep the characteristics of the distinctive Rasp etc ... but added volume of noise. Might pay em a visit for a demo drive and ask for a group buy :thumbs:
CABIN SOUND: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83Cihhd4hhs
Running full lightweight race , for some reason even tho its the full race system , it not too loud , and you dont lose the rasp either , hence why I went for it , might be on this week , as its coming in from SS italy ...
Agree with all the comments , and I do not want to have a loud tacky sounding car , and I think the SS just gets it right , and the tails are std looking , but a little wider and meaner than std too...
But you guys can can all see , and hear on our trip, or at one of the CSL cup meets so all cool :wink:
Daz, i thought the tails on the s/s were 80mm, as opposed to 65mm, not exactly standard looking :whistle:
Are you not going for twin upswept DTM styleee :hahaha:
DazBlackCSL
16-02-2009, 11:44 AM
Anyone know what thorney cars run? I really want to keep the characteristics of the distinctive Rasp etc ... but added volume of noise. Might pay em a visit for a demo drive and ask for a group buy :thumbs:
CABIN SOUND: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83Cihhd4hhs
Running full lightweight race , for some reason even tho its the full race system , it not too loud , and you dont lose the rasp either , hence why I went for it , might be on this week , as its coming in from SS italy ...
Agree with all the comments , and I do not want to have a loud tacky sounding car , and I think the SS just gets it right , and the tails are std looking , but a little wider and meaner than std too...
But you guys can can all see , and hear on our trip, or at one of the CSL cup meets so all cool :wink:
Daz, i thought the tails on the s/s were 80mm, as opposed to 65mm, not exactly standard looking :whistle:
Are you not going for twin upswept DTM styleee :hahaha:
Hmm yeah they are a a tad wider !
DTM pipes :smt078
Windowlicker
16-02-2009, 12:45 PM
Whats the crack here then ??? this is one Miltek backbox, http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/BMW-M3-E46-EXHAUST-SYSTEM-SPORTS-CAT-MILLTEK-QUAD-NEW_W0QQitemZ230262039973QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Car sParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item230262039973&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1229%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C 240%3A1318
This another ,
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Milltek-BMW-3-Series-E46-M3-CSL-exhaust-2003_W0QQitemZ310109364529QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Ca rsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item310109364529&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1229%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C 240%3A1318
I assume the 2 nd one is the "Old" system/design???
Is the new one lighter/louder/better??
DazBlackCSL
16-02-2009, 12:49 PM
I know Miltek are doing some new ones , or about too , going to change the tips , as a lot of people do not like the rolled inners , me included ...
Not sure what the diff on those two are tho .. :-D
Windowlicker
16-02-2009, 12:53 PM
I know Miltek are doing some new ones , or about too , going to change the tips , as a lot of people do not like the rolled inners , me included ...
Not sure what the diff on those two are tho .. :-D
The second one looks like the original i guess, i like the look /design of the first one, though they both have the toss looking 45deg inward lip design on the tail trims.
I still personally think the original look is best, though a bigger diameter would look a little ruder :smokin:
2.5mm wall thickness, straight cut not slash cut , and 75mm would look nice, with the staggered length look too.
glendog74
16-02-2009, 11:28 PM
Second link is for the old design that drones more apparently.
My car has the later design like the first link:
http://i728.photobucket.com/albums/ww282/glendog74/DSC02713.jpg
Looking very clean Rob! :smokin:
sailorbaz
17-02-2009, 08:35 AM
I've got the newer (1st) one and IMHO, its the better looking of the two with the smaller silencer. Personally I love the pipes, the shineyness of them screams bling. When I had the gruppeM, they didn't stand out at all (Unless of course the car was running!!!) and when parked next to my mates M3 with a Borla Exhaust, his was much better looking.
For those like me that can't be bothered looking at the ebay links...
New Milltek
http://roadrunnermotorsport.co.uk/ebay/images/MilltekBMWM3E46CatBackSystem.JPG
Old'er Milltek
http://i15.ebayimg.com/03/i/001/24/e5/cbfe_1.JPG
karbonkid
17-02-2009, 09:47 PM
Came across a supersprint on an M3 for ones deciding on a SS xhaust. Not sure bout the sound at the end. Sounded like she liked it a bit too much..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBceSE1EtXg&feature=channel_page
monkeycsl
17-02-2009, 10:31 PM
Here is mine with supersprint backbox doing a steady lap on ventus tyres. :thumbhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbrrB8jk4G8s:
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