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J2LTB
16-05-2014, 04:43 PM
Out of interest why does a std m3 and Csl share the same inlet valves - 11347830889
But they don't share exhaust valves ?
Csl 11347833676
m3 11347830888
They both list the same sizes. Is it CSL tax ?
Inlet 35.0/5.95mm
exhaust 35,0/5.95mm
Any ideas ? Sodium filled ???
Cylinder heads list same part no. But mine is heavily gas flowed on the inlet side and throttle bodies matched the same. Looks to be CNC machined. Exhaust ports are un touched.
Can anyone else tell me if they know of any other gas flowed csl's ?
NZ_M3
19-05-2014, 02:14 AM
This is a post from m3forums ... might shed some light into the fact that it isn't a CSL tax.
BMW Motorsport P54B32 and OE CSL Exhaust Valves
It's been known for quite some time that the OE CSL Exhaust Valves are different than standard. Many assumed it was solely a difference in size from standard S54B32. Being one of the first on the forum to actually order these, Chris found out that the shape is totally different! Please note the conical shape of the face of the valve compared to the standard exhaust valve. Out of more curiosity, he also ordered a P54B32 exhaust valve to see how it's different than OE CSL. Low and behold, the shape and point of the conical valve is even more different than OE CSL! The OE CSL and P54B32 valves also appear to be made of two different metals. Compare the delineation of the two with the standard valve.
http://www.performanceeurowerks.com/images/BMWMotorsports/IMG_4749.jpg
http://www.performanceeurowerks.com/images/BMWMotorsports/IMG_4750.jpg
http://www.performanceeurowerks.com/images/BMWMotorsports/IMG_4752.jpg
J2LTB
19-05-2014, 09:20 AM
That's interesting. So there is a difference. It's funny how the inlets are std but ported and the exhaust's are modified with std ports.
uncle benz
19-05-2014, 11:38 PM
Are you sure about the porting? Standard M3 S54 engine has porting work on the inlet side. I'll get a picture in the morning if I remember...
J2LTB
20-05-2014, 12:04 AM
I'm sure the ports on my head are matched the the ported throttle bodies. I wasn't aware that a std M3 has this as std. I'll put some pics up
J2LTB
20-05-2014, 12:27 AM
Ported and matched throttle body
http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q715/J2LTB/imagejpg1_zps0a30c43e.jpg
Machined inlet port knife edged
http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q715/J2LTB/imagejpg2_zpsb4de7036.jpg
Top end rebuild in progress
http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q715/J2LTB/imagejpg3_zpsf6b9822c.jpg
Rebuilt Vanos unit
http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q715/J2LTB/imagejpg11_zps86ba9022.jpg
uncle benz
20-05-2014, 04:23 PM
Standard M3
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff158/garethhughes_bucket/2ded3145377ff816a0853503c52f4894_zps92519100.jpg~o riginal
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff158/garethhughes_bucket/8285561ef045039baf225829e19a82bb_zpse3699635.jpg~o riginal
J2LTB
20-05-2014, 04:29 PM
Cheers Benz. Are the throttle bodies opened up as well on a std m3 ?
uncle benz
20-05-2014, 04:33 PM
Yup
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff158/garethhughes_bucket/7582c049fde2e22baffd9c0e964f9f3e_zpsd4dd5c9e.jpg~o riginal
J2LTB
20-05-2014, 04:55 PM
I see. Thought mine had something special done :smt088 :sad:
uncle benz
20-05-2014, 09:05 PM
I wouldn't worry, yours will still go better than a "normal" M3
It just shows you how special even the regular S54 engined M3's are. I very much doubt the new cars have this attention to detail. I suspect the forced induction has led to much more ordinary head preparation.
Feffman
18-03-2023, 06:39 PM
This is a post from m3forums ... might shed some light into the fact that it isn't a CSL tax.
Originally Posted by Alex@DPE View Post
BMW Motorsport P54B32 and OE CSL Exhaust Valves
It's been known for quite some time that the OE CSL Exhaust Valves are different than standard. Many assumed it was solely a difference in size from standard S54B32. Being one of the first on the forum to actually order these, Chris found out that the shape is totally different! Please note the conical shape of the face of the valve compared to the standard exhaust valve. Out of more curiosity, he also ordered a P54B32 exhaust valve to see how it's different than OE CSL. Low and behold, the shape and point of the conical valve is even more different than OE CSL! The OE CSL and P54B32 valves also appear to be made of two different metals. Compare the delineation of the two with the standard valve.
After some investigation, we've discovered the CSL exhaust valve (BMW part 11347833676) and the S54B32 valve (BMW part 11348279640) are the same. The S54B32 part number is the older part number for the "HMP54S" exhaust valve.
Feff
alexk
19-03-2023, 08:50 AM
After some investigation, we've discovered the CSL exhaust valve (BMW part 11347833676) and the S54B32 valve (BMW part 11348279640) are the same. The S54B32 part number is the older part number for the "HMP54S" exhaust valve.
Feff
Very interesting - thank you for sharing.
pinkpanther008
20-03-2023, 12:18 PM
Im a visual animal doesn't any body have pictures of differences etc?
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