Concours CSL for sale

[Scott]

Wonder how much Nick is wanting for this?

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/bmw/e46-m3-00-06/bmw-m3-csl-2004-53-5980-miles-concours-collectors-example/2315676?isexperiment=true

Also, no mention of price on his optionless one?

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/bmw/e46-m3-00-06/m3-csl-17000-miles-the-ultra-rare-no-options-car/2235929?isexperiment=true

[glendog74]

The concours CSL is member 1cosmicboy's car:

http://www.cslregister.com/forum/member.php?u=295

[DazBlackCSL]

Fook me I forgot how clean his was ... Got my grey and black CSL original models for looking at, glad I maxed mine and spanked its arse hard every day of the week and harder at weekends.

Gotta enjoy it and drive it, we're here for a good time not a long time :beer:

[NBTBRV8]

Also, no mention of price on his optionless one?

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/bmw/e46-m3-00-06/m3-csl-17000-miles-the-ultra-rare-no-options-car/2235929?isexperiment=true

Of course he is wrong on the number of optionless cars, there were only 3 UK delivered examples. Plus somebody has fitted CSL wheels to it as all had 19" double spokes.

[bryce]

and number three of the three will never be for sale again...

[Scott]

and number three of the three will never be for sale again...

First dibs if it is ;)

[mattCSLnut]

Of course he is wrong on the number of optionless cars, there were only 3 UK delivered examples. Plus somebody has fitted CSL wheels to it as all had 19" double spokes.

IIRC there are only 2 out of the 3 option less CSLs left now as Shane aka "Lawsy" bined his one on track and then sold it in parts. Not sure what happened to the shell though.

[cslsuperfan]

NJ's concours csl is F***ing mint

the underside is factory clean....what do yo think gents and csl girl!

circa 70K+ to the right buyer??

[nigt3]

My opinion for what it's worth is £80,000 maybe more, the price for collectors cars are going nuts at the minute!!

[sailorbaz]

WOW! That is seriously clean, I too forgot how clean this car was/is.

Even the rubber parts on the track rod ends, brand new. As Shim said though, needs to be driving and I'm glad I've had 38000 happy miles in mine over the last 8 years and what's more, I've probably only lost £10k in doing so. :supz:

I've gone fishing...
Bad man... (http://forums.m3cutters.co.uk/showthread.php?p=1367212&posted=1#post1367212)

[Rick H]

NJ's concours csl is F***ing mint

the underside is factory clean....what do yo think gents and csl girl!

circa 70K+ to the right buyer??

You'd only go and stick a big f**k off exhaust and cage on it ! :blalalala:

[Marv968]

NJ's concours csl is F***ing mint

the underside is factory clean....what do yo think gents and csl girl!

circa 70K+ to the right buyer??

Looking at the engine bay, there's some non-original components, which means it's not concours.

Therefore, I'd pay £32k FINAL OFFER!

;)

[Neil M]

Looks like someone tried to recreate the pre-production model, 3 previous owners and green springs? Wonder what the service history has to say?
Needs putting back to original to be classed as a concours example, however the asking price is likely to be in excess of £60K. :thumbs:

The non-option example (Now Sold) NJ was looking for £50K+ obviously Less is More! :whistle:

[sailorbaz]

He was going for the preproduction look as far as I remember. Check out the stickers on the tyres, ��

Not sure about the Tein springs though, are the originals made by Tein?? I don't think so...

[Das Chin]

that is fcuking awesome. what a car and prep. :thumbs:

I reckon that would be worth £70k plus.

if that 9k mile one went for 80k (with that m3 CSL plate) I would say this is even better?

[JBird]

Did he somehow get one of the original engine covers, or is that aftermarket?

[M5 Powered]

That is an aftermarket engine cover as is the CF cover on top of the radiator.

Nice car but if you bought it you'd just be thinking how much money your taking off with each mile and when to get some decent brakes. ;)

If I had £50K or £60K burning a hole in my pocket then I'd buy it to park in the living room :hahaha:

[0836whimper]

Yeah, it's got aftermarket tat all over it, and the engine's probably seized up too...break it for parts I reckon...

My issue with this : the CSL is such a joy to drive, owning one like this means you miss out on the driving experience. Which is the point of owning a CSL...

For me, better to invest in a car you don't really want to drive.

[cslsuperfan]

Yeah, it's got aftermarket tat all over it, and the engine's probably seized up too...break it for parts I reckon...

My issue with this : the CSL is such a joy to drive, owning one like this means you miss out on the driving experience. Which is the point of owning a CSL...

For me, better to invest in a car you don't really want to drive.

When do you estimate low mileage to become less relevant on the E46 CSL? ie E9 csl's don't seem to be mileage dependent on value these days.

[cslsuperfan]

You'd only go and stick a big f**k off exhaust and cage on it ! :blalalala:

As they say...a fool and his csl;)

[Brandtner]

My issue with this : the CSL is such a joy to drive, owning one like this means you miss out on the driving experience. Which is the point of owning a CSL...



bang on!

[Rick H]

When do you estimate low mileage to become less relevant on the E46 CSL? ie E9 csl's don't seem to be mileage dependent on value these days.

I guess when all the low milers are either driven or go beyond reasonable prices and are tucked away in the private, static collections of the elite. I would suggest sooner rather than later.

Market forces as always.

[Monkey]

I guess when all the low milers are either driven or go beyond reasonable prices and are tucked away in the private, static collections of the elite. I would suggest sooner rather than later.

Market forces as always.


The difficulty with E9's is it's almost impossible to verify mileage due to lack of history/clock speedo changes etc, so this is why it's relatively irrelevant. Same to an extent with E30 M3's, if there is no history of the mileage when the clocks were changed to MPH it's impossible to verify the mileage. We go much more on the condition of the car, rather than what the clocks read with these classics.

Certainly the cars that we can verify the mileage for do fetch a premium, as you would expect.

[73CSL]

I think once cars get to the point where they are being fully restored, then mileage becomes less of an issue & the premiums are paid for quality & originality of the resto but ... such a shame not to enjoy the journey of life by never driving a car , especially one that is judged & enjoyed by many because of the way it drives

[XPorker]

I very much doubt you'll find a better car. All the "aftermarket tat" is easily removeable, and the owner has all the original parts wrapped up in cotton wool, bubble wrap and a silk sheets......

The engine sounds exactly as it did when it was first started when it rolled off the production line in Oct 2003.

http://thumbsnap.com/s/h44o6DXg.jpg

http://thumbsnap.com/s/qIZ48biM.jpg

http://thumbsnap.com/s/ZPXXiyfZ.jpg

http://thumbsnap.com/s/7bJnUhug.jpg

And in the owner you'll not find a more genuine, enthusiastic, helpful or down to earth individual.

And to save further forum tittle tattle and conjecture, the asking price is circa £65K.

[Straightsix]

When do you estimate low mileage to become less relevant on the E46 CSL? ie E9 csl's don't seem to be mileage dependent on value these days.

Sport Evolutions being 24 years old and given how E30s are easy to clock there seem to be quite a few 30k mileage plus examples sold by ML and Classic Heroes.

I would say when is 25-30 years old mileage is less relevant

[sjb]

Those pictures are simply unbelievable even those nuts are still shiny! it's only a few that are stored away it seems, most are used as intended :clown:

[mattCSLnut]

I think once cars get to the point where they are being fully restored, then mileage becomes less of an issue & the premiums are paid for quality & originality of the resto but ... such a shame not to enjoy the journey of life by never driving a car , especially one that is judged & enjoyed by many because of the way it drives

Well said that man :thumbs: I couldn't agree more.

[AlexGTT]

I think once cars get to the point where they are being fully restored, then mileage becomes less of an issue & the premiums are paid for quality & originality of the resto but ... such a shame not to enjoy the journey of life by never driving a car , especially one that is judged & enjoyed by many because of the way it drives


Absolutely correct.

[karbonkid]

I wonder if it has had the boot floor injection done

[NBTBRV8]

Absolutely correct.

I think once cars get to the point where they are being fully restored, then mileage becomes less of an issue & the premiums are paid for quality & originality of the resto but ... such a shame not to enjoy the journey of life by never driving a car , especially one that is judged & enjoyed by many because of the way it drives

I think I will disagree. Look at the two Gullwings sold at auction recently, the unrestored (well used) example sold for more than the restored example. In classic car circles you see it quite often.

http://www.autoweek.com/article/20140123/carnews01/140129899

Original low mile examples will always pull high values over anything else, because you can't replicate that.

[AlexGTT]

I think I will disagree. Look at the two Gullwings sold at auction recently, the unrestored (well used) example sold for more than the restored example. In classic car circles you see it quite often.

http://www.autoweek.com/article/20140123/carnews01/140129899

Original low mile examples will always pull high values over anything else, because you can't replicate that.

But that is exactly my point. The originality is more important than mileage, every time.

In my business people don't care about mileage because they want to use them. There are exceptions but they are few and far between.

[E46CSL]

When demand far exceeds supply, new "rules" will come into play. ;)

[Loaded]

Amazing..mint condition CSL.

[LHutchin]

Do we know who bought this?

Thanks:thumbs:

[Scott]

Do we know who bought this?

Thanks:thumbs:

nw99 :thumbs:

http://www.cslregister.com/forum/showthread.php?t=13263

[nw99]

Just took it to Munich Legends for a check up and they were amazed at the condition .. Underneath is still like new never been in the wet .

[digi]

I very much doubt you'll find a better car. All the "aftermarket tat" is easily removeable, and the owner has all the original parts wrapped up in cotton wool, bubble wrap and a silk sheets......

The engine sounds exactly as it did when it was first started when it rolled off the production line in Oct 2003.

http://thumbsnap.com/s/h44o6DXg.jpg

http://thumbsnap.com/s/qIZ48biM.jpg

http://thumbsnap.com/s/ZPXXiyfZ.jpg

http://thumbsnap.com/s/7bJnUhug.jpg

And in the owner you'll not find a more genuine, enthusiastic, helpful or down to earth individual.

And to save further forum tittle tattle and conjecture, the asking price is circa £65K.

cheap as chips considering you cannot buy a CSL here in HK for £65K period.:smokin:

Prices in Germany are going insane.

http://suchen.mobile.de/fahrzeuge/details.html?id=210247875&isSearchRequest=true&sb=p&scopeId=C&damageUnrepaired=ALSO_DAMAGE_UNREPAIRED&minFirstRegistrationDate=2003-01-01&makeModelVariant1.makeId=3500&makeModelVariant1.modelId=45&makeModelVariant1.modelDescription=CSL&pageNumber=1

[73CSL]

you're not wrong about europe

just checked mobile.de .. crashed and needing reparis .. 39K euros,

then the rest appear at be around 80K euros upwards which is £55K +

surely the UK can't stay so far adrift ?