Pork 996 GT3 thoughts

[Jon8710]

So iv been having thoughts about going to the pork side,

I know a few people have chopped and changed about on here

I would much appreciate your input.

Cheers

[Mike R]

Depends what you have bought your car for. The GT3 is far more challenging to drive on track (read as: not as fast as the CSL on circuit's like the Nordschleife), which makes it more rewarding to get the best out of it. However, being a strictly two-seater, it isn't as practical as a CSL, it isn't as aurally intoxicating (but then what is) and it will be more expensive to replace normal consumables.

So basically the balance of the CSL is hard to beat, but it does mean that any reasonably skilled driver can make it go fast, where the 996 GT3 will have you learning new driving skills to get the best out of it.

Now is also a good time to buy a GT3, as they are on the up (996 GT RS models especially so due to the limited production run).

[Jon8710]

Cheers mike

I'm not exactly the last work in track driving In my CSL
But I do like the odd day here and there.
It will be a fast road car and odd euro trip,
I'm also concearned that parts for the CSL are scarce these days and if it does
Mangle a cam or something like that I could be waiting a year to use it again.
Same goes for damaging bumpers or chipping the roof it's almost getting a bit too specialist to enjoy.

[DazBlackCSL]

Depends what you have bought your car for. The GT3 is far more challenging to drive on track (read as: not as fast as the CSL on circuit's like the Nordschleife), which makes it more rewarding to get the best out of it. However, being a strictly two-seater, it isn't as practical as a CSL, it isn't as aurally intoxicating (but then what is) and it will be more expensive to replace normal consumables.

So basically the balance of the CSL is hard to beat, but it does mean that any reasonably skilled driver can make it go fast, where the 996 GT3 will have you learning new driving skills to get the best out of it.

Now is also a good time to buy a GT3, as they are on the up (996 GT RS models especially so due to the limited production run).

+1 that's pretty much spot on Jon, glad I ticked / scratched the GT3 box, admittedly with the 997 but still something I'm glad I did and don't regret it, would still have it now if I had a choice.

Would say do it, but it's something you need to weigh up what and how your going to be using it.

[Mike R]

Cheers mike

I'm not exactly the last work in track driving In my CSL
But I do like the odd day here and there.
It will be a fast road car and odd euro trip,
I'm also concearned that parts for the CSL are scarce these days and if it does
Mangle a cam or something like that I could be waiting a year to use it again.
Same goes for damaging bumpers or chipping the roof it's almost getting a bit too specialist to enjoy.

Given your remit, I would suggest that the focus of the GT3 isn't really what you're looking for, but why not get a drive in one to be sure? Obviously from your description you will be wanting a GT3 Comfort rather than the even more track focused Club Sport.

A 997 Carrera S might be more fitting if you want to scratch the Porsche itch? I'm sure a Porsche dealer would be willing to let you have a go in both for you to gauge if it was for you or not?

[Has csl]

I had an E30 M3 up until 6 months ago, never loved a car as much! Then had an itch for a 911, so a 993 it had to be, well, biggest mistake I made. Now looking to chop the 911 in and should be collecting my sb csl in a few weeks after the subframe cracks are sorted by BMW. Grass is always greener on he other side. For me the csl is the only car that can fill the gap that my E30 left. Other than another E30 that is.

[Pip1968]

You simply have to give the 996 a go. Very raw/analogue compared to then 'nanny state' 997 GT3 ie no traction control et cetera. As has already been alluded to though, more expensive to run and not as practical for more than a family of two.

Both are a must, CSL and 996 GT3.

Unfortunately many seem to be held on to due to the upcoming track season, it's rawness and perhaps the arrival of the computer assisted 'automatic' 991.

Pip

[Jon8710]

It's one of those things isn't it,
Iv got my CSL and if I get rid of it I won't get one as nice as this again
But while I don't have kids or a wife giving me grief I should do it,
I just don't know if I can part with Cecil.
I had a back road 7am blast in the sun on Sunday and the car felt electric
It even made laugh out loud
I think iv answered my own question haven't i.

[Yanto]

It's one of those things isn't it,
Iv got my CSL and if I get rid of it I won't get one as nice as this again
But while I don't have kids or a wife giving me grief I should do it,
I just don't know if I can part with Cecil.
I had a back road 7am blast in the sun on Sunday and the car felt electric
It even made laugh out loud
I think iv answered my own question haven't i.

Yes.

Now buy another CSL as a donor bitch :thumbs:

[Das Chin]

Keep the csl. Gt3 parts are getting rare and are a lot more money to fix too. You are just going to lay out another 20 grand for not much more gain.

[0836whimper]

I had a back road blast in the sun on Sunday and the car felt electric
It even made laugh out loud


I had that on Sunday, the combination of urgency, agility and noise makes me laugh out loud too.
The CSL's involvement factor is so high and uncompromising, still makes me wonder how they got sign-off for it.

[plumber vic]

Jon
No Wife no kids keep the cecil and get gt3 I know somebody else who"s done that:finga::finga:

[Jon8710]

Ha ha

Thanks for the comments fellas there are some good points there,

Also looking at it from an investment point of veiw I think the GT3 is a better shout in this digital world.

Hhhmmm need to do some thinking

Going to call some people tomorrow who have PM'd me.

[jibm]

Ha ha

Thanks for the comments fellas there are some good points there,

Also looking at it from an investment point of veiw I think the GT3 is a better shout in this digital world.

Hhhmmm need to do some thinking

Going to call some people tomorrow who have PM'd me.

i too have been looking at the jump to gt3 for past six months or so, the problem is there are very few cars out there for sale (that i have come across anyway).the overpriced stuff seems to hang around as usual. i just cant pay 50k for a 10 year old 996.

i missed Dazzer’s old by thinking about it too much, 48k for a 997gt3 with 40k on it, now looks like a bargain.

so if anyone is looking to sell pm me too :beer:

apologies for the highjack :whistle:

[DazBlackCSL]

i too have been looking at the jump to gt3 for past six months or so, the problem is there are very few cars out there for sale (that i have come across anyway).the overpriced stuff seems to hang around as usual. i just cant pay 50k for a 10 year old 996.

i missed Dazzer’s old by thinking about it too much, 48k for a 997gt3 with 40k on it, now looks like a bargain.

so if anyone is looking to sell pm me too :beer:

apologies for the highjack :whistle:

See they've sold that now too, was a shame would of liked it it have gone to a good home, and get considerably more than what they gave me trade :bigcry:

[jibm]

See they've sold that now too, was a shame would of liked it it have gone to a good home, and get considerably more than what they gave me trade :bigcry:

it was sold over the xmas break while they where moving premises, I have been kicking myself thinking they must have let it go cheap to realise some cash for the move...lol oh the pain..:bigcry:

damn that lazy, fatter and drunker time of year!!:banghead:

[Das Chin]

tbh the way the 991 GT3 saga is going then the 997 and 996 are going to go up in value!!

120k cars going up in flames is not good and all need new engines:
http://www.pistonheads.com/news/default.asp?storyId=29500

mate of mine bought his white GT3 RS (white/blue) about 9 years and paid around £65k for it. it has done just over 30k miles, has been serviced a few times, new set of tyres and some pads and that's it. its probably worth more now than what he paid for it all those years ago.

incredible car and a real step above the normal GT3. a bit too extreme for normal road use and a real handful on the annual Ring trips. utter shite in the rain through Belgium as it has no air con. tram lines like a bitch too!

the problem with the GT3 is its very hard to fine one ...even harder to find a good one.

[Mike R]

This one looks pretty damn good to me? :)

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/porsche/911-gt3-996/porsche-911-996-gt3-mk2-clubsport/2158264

[Das Chin]

if I was doing it then that is exactly the right spec:

club sport
cage
lwt recaros
PCCB brakes.

[jibm]

This one looks pretty damn good to me? :)

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/porsche/911-gt3-996/porsche-911-996-gt3-mk2-clubsport/2158264


Good spot, thats just been posted on PH.

The car looks nice BUT thats 997 money really, back to the same 45k for a ten year old car ffs.

plus i dont want all that scaffolding in the back:gayfight:

[Jon8710]

Not a massive fan of the cage and harnesses,
Also the black wheels look a bit aftermarket.
I don't think they are worth more than 40k yet
But there's not many about at the moment

[jibm]

Not a massive fan of the cage and harnesses,
Also the black wheels look a bit aftermarket.
I don't think they are worth more than 40k yet
But there's not many about at the moment

agreed, thats high end dealer money on a private sale.

having said that, I bet its sold in a few days.

[Das Chin]

they are worth it and it will sell.

RS's are going for 65 to 70 for a good one.

they are rare and sought after I am afraid.

the 997 is a bit of a kop out with all the nanny state stuff. 996 is far far raw a drive.

[Mike R]

Not a massive fan of the cage and harnesses,
Also the black wheels look a bit aftermarket.
I don't think they are worth more than 40k yet
But there's not many about at the moment

Wheel colour can be sorted very easily, but considering it is a genuine two-owner car, I doubt it will hang around long.

[jibm]

the 997 is a bit of a kop out with all the nanny state stuff.

thats perfect for me, the odd track day and the rest spent driving down Weybridge high street with my balls hanging out the window.

just need to find one in black/white/red with 40k for £45k

much like a C2s that holds its value, as i am depreciation adverse these day.

[cslsuperfan]

Any ideas as to why this hasn't sold

Is LHD holding it back as a UK sale?

[Yanto]

Any ideas as to why this hasn't sold

Is LHD holding it back as a UK sale?

Linky ?

[northernjim]

Not a massive fan of the cage and harnesses,
Also the black wheels look a bit aftermarket.
I don't think they are worth more than 40k yet
But there's not many about at the moment



Orange Lambo and white overfinch in the background.....

Poor old pork was always going to get chavved up! :bigcry:

[mentalnerve]

Any ideas as to why this hasn't sold

Is LHD holding it back as a UK sale?


cos its gen 2 money?

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/porsche/911-gt3-997/997-gt3-rs-gen-1--porsche-green-1-owner-lhd/2050490?isexperiment=true

[cslsuperfan]

Linky ?

Apologies Yanto

techno biff.

viper green gt3 rs LHD for sale on PH under Pistonheads Classifieds/ "997gt3" section/ 50 quid short of 100K.

[northernjim]

cos its gen 2 money?

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/porsche/911-gt3-997/997-gt3-rs-gen-1--porsche-green-1-owner-lhd/2050490?isexperiment=true



And French.......... Cheeseatingsurrendermonkeys





( no offence to our French members of course)

[CraigMillwardCroft]

cos its gen 2 money?

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/porsche/911-gt3-997/997-gt3-rs-gen-1--porsche-green-1-owner-lhd/2050490?isexperiment=true

Nice colour :thumbs:

[plumber vic]

Was told only 88 that colour
Black and orange look a lot better

[Pip1968]

Any ideas as to why this hasn't sold

Is LHD holding it back as a UK sale?

I think it is because it is overpriced. It is well above premium for a 997 GT3 RS and only because it is Viper Green which are in incredibly short supply. You then pay over the top for it and have to live with a left hooker.

I think someone made an offer on it (either PH or 911UK) and they want full asking. I think they are fantasists but it may well go after a long, long wait.

Pip

[terryb]

I think the OP should just go for it and see below for inspiration.

I had my CSL for a year and it was fantastic, but changed it for a 996.1 GT3 and never looked back. My GT3 is just so raw and amazing to drive on track that I doubt I'll ever sell :)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v12/terryb/Manthey%20GT3/image_zpsaaa85d54.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/terryb/media/Manthey%20GT3/image_zpsaaa85d54.jpg.html)

[CraigMillwardCroft]

I think the OP should just go for it and see below for inspiration.

I had my CSL for a year and it was fantastic, but changed it for a 996.1 GT3 and never looked back. My GT3 is just so raw and amazing to drive on track that I doubt I'll ever sell :)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v12/terryb/Manthey%20GT3/image_zpsaaa85d54.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/terryb/media/Manthey%20GT3/image_zpsaaa85d54.jpg.html)
Very nice car :thumbs:

[niall1]

You simply have to give the 996 a go. Very raw/analogue compared to then 'nanny state' 997 GT3 ie no traction control et cetera. As has already been alluded to though, more expensive to run and not as practical for more than a family of two.

Both are a must, CSL and 996 GT3.


http://www.cslregister.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11835

;)