Suspension E92 Options

[SMD]

I know most have CSL's but looking for a bit of help and advice on suspension for my E92 M3.

After Bedford track day 3 weeks ago i feel the car is way to soft even with the EDC set to full sport. There is no where near enough camber on the front.

Options.

KW V3. Come with EDC Delete kit. No top mounts tho so would need to sort top mounts for the front to overcome this?

KW Clubsport. Always found them to stiff for the road. But do come with top mounts.

Bilstein B16. I was at the Autosport Show today and Bilstein had a E92 on there stand running a set of there B16 Dampers which have the EDC Control. But again don't come with top mounts.

Nitron. What option are there?

I will be using the car around 3-5k a year on the road. 2-3 Ring Trips and Track days as often as possible.

Regards

[shane@mbtech]

Go KW clubsport.

If yours has edc get it coded out.

I can supply KW stuff.

[s.mac]

The nitron stand was 50 yards from the blistein stand :(

[SMD]

Thanks for the reply. Do you not find the Clubsport to stiff Shane? I have not driven them on the road. Apart from top mounts what are difference with V3 over Clubsport.

I did have a look at the Nitron stand and saw the E92 kit which looked great. not sure about the solid mounting for the rear struts on the bottom tho. Might cause knocking?

[SMD]

I was thinking KW V3 with these front top mounts to get camber and castor adjustment

http://www.turnermotorsport.com/p-180885-front-adjustable-cambercaster-plates-e82-1m-e9x-m3-vorshlag-streettrack.aspx

[shimmy]

Clubsport with softer springs

[Mark CSL]

i got my m8 these they are the nuts

http://www.nitron.co.uk/Automotive/BMW/E90-E92-M3/bmw-e90-e92-m3-07-ntr-r3

not cheap 3.6k + vat :whistle:

[terryb]

Bilstein B16. I was at the Autosport Show today and Bilstein had a E92 on there stand running a set of there B16 Dampers which have the EDC Control. But again don't come with top mounts

That car belongs to Iain Litchfield as I was talking to him about it today. Could be worth giving him a call to see if he has a demonstrator to drive - he'll probably let you drive his own. I'm going to try that - he has also remapped it and is running supersprint exhaust and BBK :)

[GregorJP]

That car belongs to Iain Litchfield as I was talking to him about it today. Could be worth giving him a call to see if he has a demonstrator to drive - he'll probably let you drive his own. I'm going to try that - he has also remapped it and is running supersprint exhaust and BBK :)

I've driven the Litchfield E92 demonstrator car and it was absolutely the impetus for me looking to sell my GT-R. The combination of the Alcon kit, the tighter suspension and the creamy V8 was sublime, even though the car itself isn't the newest. I agree with Terry - see if you can get a drive in demonstrator cars with the different kits.

[terryb]

I've driven the Litchfield E92 demonstrator car and it was absolutely the impetus for me looking to sell my GT-R. The combination of the Alcon kit, the tighter suspension and the creamy V8 was sublime, even though the car itself isn't the newest. I agree with Terry - see if you can get a drive in demonstrator cars with the different kits.

Mmmm interesting. Mine is completely standard although has comp pack and EDC and is a fantastic all-rounder, but very keen to drive the Litchfield car :)

[GregorJP]

My friend has a standard E92 with EDC which I have driven many times, and the most noticeable improvement on the Litchfield car was...(no surprise for the owner of any M3)...the brakes. They were absolutely diamond sharp and perfect, but then if you look at the size of them, they make the AP's on my CSL look small.

The suspension was also much tighter, but I've not driven the Competition version, so couldn't compare.

I would definitely speak to Iain and get a drive, if you're interested. He told me that the E92 mule is something of a sleeper among his customers, in that almost every GT-R owner who drives it falls in love with it.

[SMD]

i got my m8 these they are the nuts

http://www.nitron.co.uk/Automotive/BMW/E90-E92-M3/bmw-e90-e92-m3-07-ntr-r3

not cheap 3.6k + vat :whistle:

They are high up on my option mate. The only thing i am a little concerned about is road noise. Rattles and bangs etc. But they do look awesome. I believe this is the kit the Schimer cars out in Germany use? Does anyone have this kit on the CSL?

That car belongs to Iain Litchfield as I was talking to him about it today. Could be worth giving him a call to see if he has a demonstrator to drive - he'll probably let you drive his own. I'm going to try that - he has also remapped it and is running supersprint exhaust and BBK :)

Cheers Terry how are you finding your E92? Brakes are sorted. The same Alcon kit as on the Lichfield car will be going on very shortly.

I've driven the Litchfield E92 demonstrator car and it was absolutely the impetus for me looking to sell my GT-R. The combination of the Alcon kit, the tighter suspension and the creamy V8 was sublime, even though the car itself isn't the newest. I agree with Terry - see if you can get a drive in demonstrator cars with the different kits.

Will give him a call on Tuesday for a Chat. My car is having the Alcon Kit same as on the Lichfield Car, just want to sort the suspension and do it correctly from the start.

Mmmm interesting. Mine is completely standard although has comp pack and EDC and is a fantastic all-rounder, but very keen to drive the Litchfield car :)

The car standard Comp pack car is great on the road apart from the brakes. One on track tho the suspension is to soft and no where near enough camber on the front. Tyres don't last 2 track days on the front if pushing on.

My friend has a standard E92 with EDC which I have driven many times, and the most noticeable improvement on the Litchfield car was...(no surprise for the owner of any M3)...the brakes. They were absolutely diamond sharp and perfect, but then if you look at the size of them, they make the AP's on my CSL look small.

The suspension was also much tighter, but I've not driven the Competition version, so couldn't compare.

I would definitely speak to Iain and get a drive, if you're interested. He told me that the E92 mule is something of a sleeper among his customers, in that almost every GT-R owner who drives it falls in love with it.

Thats my Plan. As said Brakes sorted with the Alcons. Interested to drive the car with the Bilstein B16 dampers as fitted to the lichfield car.

Many thanks for the help so far.:partyman:

[Mike R]

You might want to read this regarding the Nitrons:
http://www.cslregister.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11517

[SMD]

Thanks for that Mike interesting read. Looks as tho the KW Clubsport get the thumbs up by most on here. Are the print rates the same on the E46 kit and E92?

[Mike R]

Thanks for that Mike interesting read. Looks as tho the KW Clubsport get the thumbs up by most on here. Are the print rates the same on the E46 kit and E92?

No, the spring and damping rates will be completely different to take into account the extra 250kg weight of the E92.

[SMD]

Clubsport Spring Rates: 514F/800R

[Mike R]

On the E46, they are 400lb front and the rears are unspecified progressive.

[trackm3]

JRZ RS

http://www.jrzsuspension.com/products/rs-line/rs.html

[SMD]

I am swaying to buy this new Kit by Bilstein.
http://bilstein.suspensiondirect.co.uk/Bilstein-BMW-3-Series-E92-Coupe-M3-B16-Clubsport-Coilover-Suspension-Kit-48-223539_17895_3_177_6307.jsp