What is my CSL worth?

[shimmy]

To someone buying one (not you muppets)

ONeill thinks its the fastest CSL ever made as obviously I can't drive fast but it does some good ole laptimes :)

Silver Grey
Xenons
101k miles (lots of bits have done considerably less miles)
Warranty BMW
Full Supersrpint Lightweight Race exhaust and Larrini cats
Intrax 1K2 adjustable suspension.
Rear Solid strutt brace and front turret suspension

Needs some paint.
Wheels and tyres of choice
Original bits included.


Do you think I should paint it, return it to standard or just package it as a trackday car and sell accordingly?

[Yanto]

2p

You buying wheels ?

[Equinox]

After 11,316 posts on this forum you cant be serious if you were, standard and painted £26,995, as it is with the bits but unpainted £27,995 why not.

[CraigMillwardCroft]

Hope this is for insurance value and your not thinking of selling :thumbs:

[DazBlackCSL]

Bout time you had a dabble elsewhere :-D you can always come back again !!

[shane@mbtech]

To someone buying one (not you muppets)

ONeill thinks its the fastest CSL ever made as obviously I can't drive fast but it does some good ole laptimes :)

Silver Grey
Xenons
101k miles (lots of bits have done considerably less miles)
Warranty BMW
Full Supersrpint Lightweight Race exhaust and Larrini cats
Intrax 1K2 adjustable suspension.
Rear Solid strutt brace and front turret suspension

Needs some paint.
Wheels and tyres of choice
Original bits included.


Do you think I should paint it, return it to standard or just package it as a trackday car and sell accordingly?

£20,000 standard

[shane@mbtech]

Warranty might add £1000

[shane@mbtech]

Sell intrax £1500
Sell ap front and rear £2200
Sell exhaust £1500-2000 if fanimould inc
Sell extra wheels and cups £2-3000

[Mark CSL]

You could always break it as its worth around 20k in bits :hahaha:

[shane@mbtech]

To give you some idea

After breaking mine after breaking it I got nigh on £28k back.
That was great as it owed me £25k.


I also recently sold a 103k black Csl for £19,000. It was in fantastic condition for its age/mileage. New brakes all round. Had new Tyres but only budget Tyres.

40-50k mile Csl selling for £30k.

[Mark CSL]

To give you some idea

After breaking mine after breaking it I got nigh on £28k back.
That was great as it owed me £25k.


I also recently sold a 103k black Csl for £19,000. It was in fantastic condition for its age/mileage. New brakes all round. Had new Tyres but only budget Tyres.

40-50k mile Csl selling for £30k.


Break it shimmy its worth more in bits :hahaha::smokin:

[CraigMillwardCroft]

Don't do it you know your will miss the old girl :)

[Mark CSL]

Don't do it you know your will miss the old girl :)


Its not his wife Craig Its the CSL :hahaha:

[E46CSL]

Break it shimmy its worth more in bits :hahaha::smokin:


Good advice, sell it to Lawsy.

Are you buying a lower mileage one?

[cslsuperfan]

Shimmy,
As the star from which everything csl revolves around you are not permitted to sell the shimster carriage unless it's a transition to fresher cesil or a grandturismo.....bagsy first pax ride;)



To someone buying one (not you muppets)

ONeill thinks its the fastest CSL ever made as obviously I can't drive fast but it does some good ole laptimes :)

Silver Grey
Xenons
101k miles (lots of bits have done considerably less miles)
Warranty BMW
Full Supersrpint Lightweight Race exhaust and Larrini cats
Intrax 1K2 adjustable suspension.
Rear Solid strutt brace and front turret suspension

Needs some paint.
Wheels and tyres of choice
Original bits included.


Do you think I should paint it, return it to standard or just package it as a trackday car and sell accordingly?

[CraigMillwardCroft]

Good advice, sell it to Lawsy.

Are you buying a lower mileage one?

He wants to get a SB one :whistle:

[Neil M]

Anywhere between £20K and £25, if you were to contemplate selling depending what's left on.
However I would suggest the Best resale would be obtained in retuning it to OEM spec and selling the extras separately.:whistle:

Some recent adds/sales:
Dan ‘Dufflecoat’ (53) SG 122,500 4 Owners, £21,995, Oct.13 Yorkshire
Jonathon (04) SG 120,000 2 Owners, £21.000, Oct.13 Nottingham
The Manor Garage, 03, SG, 116,000, ? Owners, £22,995 was £24,995 Wiltshire
Older adds:
600 WHM, SG, (03) 107,000, 2 Owners, £19,995
Dave Fox Prestige Cars (53) SG 106,000, 4 Owners, £18,975 Stoke-on-Trent

[alexk]

Why to sell it shimmy?

[Steve B]

Be no good breaking it..... Wouldn't know where to start ;)


Steve

[Rick H]

28-06-13 7:56

In response to sale of S1 CSL (John's)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Yanto
Congrats Perv....what's next ?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shimmy
Long nights in at home sobbing probably

[Trawler]

Are you pissed, bored, mrs given you an ultimatum or just winding us up?

[Das Chin]

[quote=Neil M;156720]

Some recent adds/sales:
The Manor Garage, 03, SG, 116,000, ? Owners, £22,995 was £24,995 Wiltshire
Older adds:
600 WHM, SG, (03) 107,000, 2 Owners, £19,995


I bought the SG CSL from Nathan who bought it from Manor Garage.

it has 112k miles and I got it just sub of £20k. steal really as Nathan wanted out of it quick as had a 996 GT2 on the way.

has AP BBK all round in red, new RS29s all round, 100 cell milltek CATs, Cups, inspection 2 had just been done so over 14k left to next one. had had the front end re sprayed too which had tidied it up.

few interior bits and other things like the rear box swapped but now where I want it.

I would say easy 20-21k for yours shimmy on the market now. I would sell the uprated bits for more gain if you have all the standard bits to hand to swap back.

[mattCSLnut]

Are you pissed, bored, mrs given you an ultimatum or just winding us up?

Probably all of the above mate :-D
Shimmy, as Ben already said... you are NOT permitted to sell your Cecil :ban: that's the law :wink:

[shimmy]

Just pure cash needed, with the new business cashflow is king and as we enter the next tax year I'm wondering if I ought to free this cash up ready as we are planning on expanding.

Can't really be bothered with returning it to standard so wondering if I sell it and advertise it as a track car with everything included. Not normaly the best return but as a high miler it might attract a certain type over the summer, as it's set up well for the track or Ring. Especially with new engine, vanos, gearbox, diff, SMg pump over the years.

Just wondering really, not made my mind up yet.

[E46CSL]

Just pure cash needed, with the new business cashflow is king and as we enter the next tax year I'm wondering if I ought to free this cash up ready as we are planning on expanding.

Can't really be bothered with returning it to standard so wondering if I sell it and advertise it as a track car with everything included. Not normaly the best return but as a high miler it might attract a certain type over the summer, as it's set up well for the track or Ring. Especially with new engine, vanos, gearbox, diff, SMg pump over the years.

Just wondering really, not made my mind up yet.

Hope you stay in the fold, the CSL world would be very different without you driving it.

[Trawler]

Me thinks you need to revise your business plan. What's another £25 - 30k in repayments? You will regret selling the old girl & we will miss your wit.

[digi]

well, as a business person, I'd say business first. Toys can come when you make more $$$.

Best of luck with the sale. With a new engine, I don't see you having too much issue is unloading it. If I spent any prolonged time in the UK I would buy it from you in a heart beat as I would really dig a track weapon I could lug to the Ring and Spa that has had most of the goodies done for me. (less headache). :partyman:

[shimmy]

well, as a business person, I'd say business first. Toys can come when you make more $$$.

Best of luck with the sale. With a new engine, I don't see you having too much issue is unloading it. If I spent any prolonged time in the UK I would buy it from you in a heart beat as I would really dig a track weapon I could lug to the Ring and Spa that has had most of the goodies done for me. (less headache). :partyman:

I must admit I wonder if I could still get a decent price selling it as such...as it is and for trips and track use. After all once all spruced up it will still be the high miler it is, no hiding that. Maybe try to sell it as it stands, with all the bits included if wanted....ill take some time and think.

[Trawler]

My outlook on life has changed in the last few years due to friends dying young.

So whatever you decide to do go for it & I wish you all the best & hope you have fun doing it.

[shimmy]

My outlook on life has changed in the last few years due to friends dying young.

.


HMMM I AGREE same thoughts all the time but other things pressing as well :thumbs:

[billyboysm3]

You want a 328 dont you?

[E46CSL]

You want a 328 dont you?

Good choice, plenty of headroom too.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/66/BMW_328_(16.06.2007).jpg

[shimmy]

You want a 328 dont you?

no you are mistaken, i want the CASH not the COCK :)

[Neil M]

Nice, but somehow I can't see 'shimmy' in a 328 with his cap on back to front and sporting a pair of goggles - would do nothing for his image?
I don't think Mrs 'shim' would go for it either; a second mortgage and nowhere for the little 'shims' to sit! :-D

[s.mac]

Cracking buy for someone Shimmy :)

[Graham]

To give you some idea

After breaking mine after breaking it I got nigh on £28k back.
That was great as it owed me £25k..

That's crazy. What mileage was it? Many mods?

[s1csl]

You want a 328 dont you?
VERT

[DazBlackCSL]

Who has posted a silly sized picture

[glendog74]

:(

[AlexGTT]

Shim, if your business investment is right and it works then that's the most important thing. I'd cash the car in if I needed to because as mentioned previously in the thread, the business should eventually pay back and then some.

I nearly put my CSL on the market back in the Summer when I bought a new building and land for the business. Glad I didn't because as it turned out I was being a little bit paranoid about cashflow and with hindsight it wasn't needed.

What I will say is borrowing money has never been cheaper. I don't usually like that option but in a year or so interest rates won't be the same.

[shimmy]

Shim, if your business investment is right and it works then that's the most important thing. I'd cash the car in if I needed to because as mentioned previously in the thread, the business should eventually pay back and then some.

I nearly put my CSL on the market back in the Summer when I bought a new building and land for the business. Glad I didn't because as it turned out I was being a little bit paranoid about cashflow and with hindsight it wasn't needed.

What I will say is borrowing money has never been cheaper. I don't usually like that option but in a year or so interest rates won't be the same.



Will see how I feel up to new year.

Hmmmm,

[Neil M]

NJ has just advertised a caged SG on PH, 113,000K, 3 Owners, up at £25,995?

[_Nathan_]

NJ has just advertised a caged SG on PH, 113,000K, 3 Owners, up at £25,995?

He's clearly looking for someone "special" to buy that then :whistle:

Madness, 113k mile car is not worth that, not unless the modifications include £5k worth of gold bars in the glovebox.

[E46CSL]

He's clearly looking for someone "special" to buy that then :whistle:
.

He is the new "Hexagon" ;)

[shane@mbtech]

Is that chickens car. I was going to buy it.
Let's just say if I bought it at the time and advertised at NJ price I would be clearing £6k profit. Not bad for the worlds shittest adverts :hahaha:

[cslsuperfan]

Is that chickens car. I was going to buy it.
Let's just say if I bought it at the time and advertised at NJ price I would be clearing £6k profit. Not bad for the worlds shittest adverts :hahaha:

+1
for a dealer who has reputedly sold 60+ csl's the ad's are brief and the photos tend to be repetitive.....however how many dealers have a handful of examples to test drive back to back;)

[shane@mbtech]

+1
for a dealer who has reputedly sold 60+ csl's the ad's are brief and the photos tend to be repetitive.....however how many dealers have a handful of examples to test drive back to back;)

I'm just jealous of his profits

He's obviously doing something right. :thumbs:

[Neil M]

I'm just jealous of his profits

He's obviously doing something right. :thumbs:

NJ has 4 Listed; 2 POAs, the one above and another at £28K, and another 4? coming in soon. It looks like he's turning cash into stock! - Questors please take note.

[Das Chin]

NJ has just advertised a caged SG on PH, 113,000K, 3 Owners, up at £25,995?

bloody joke price. some mug will pay it I am sure

tidy profit for being a 'csl broker' and not even prepping cars

at least hexagon do that and you get a nice place to buy it from. not that I am saying they are right either. you pays your way n all that...

[Neil M]

+1
for a dealer who has reputedly sold 60+ csl's the ad's are brief and the photos tend to be repetitive.....however how many dealers have a handful of examples to test drive back to back;)

I think he's probably got to a point, where he could sell them simply by saying "CSL for Sale" without the need for his exhaustive descriptions? :hahaha:

[Graham]

Didn't realise chicken had sold up, love the cage. Mileage and not even having the right wheels would put me off at that price. £22k max I reckon and that's only because of the cage.

[shane@mbtech]

Didn't realise chicken had sold up, love the cage. Mileage and not even having the right wheels would put me off at that price. £22k max I reckon and that's only because of the cage.

The cage costs as much as you get back selling the interior.

So it's £20k Max IMO

[si.w]

Pics of the caged car show proof of the elusive cardboard in the boot. Must be worth a premium for that!

[E30M3SE]

Pics of the caged car show proof of the elusive cardboard in the boot. Must be worth a premium for that!

:hahaha:

[s1csl]

18 k max this car should be the cheapest csl out there , ex csl cup car

[shane@mbtech]

18 k max this car should be the cheapest csl out there , ex csl cup car


I was going to buy it for £18k :whistle:

[s1csl]

I was going to buy it for £18k :whistle:
And that is all its worth, did the rear quarter passenger side still look like its had a bad repair?

[shane@mbtech]

And that is all its worth, did the rear quarter passenger side still look like its had a bad repair?

Didn't get that far. The cosmetic didn't worry me at 18k tbh

[Equinox]

Chicken and NJ are mates I believe, his was a nice car. Some great bits and stunning interior, but just the fact its a car that's been built from a shell and load of bits...is that good or bad...who knows.

[titan]

I agree with the comments that in this day and age you shouldn't "have" to sell your car to fund your business. Plenty of other ways to raise cash and you're not talking a lot.

What I suspect is more the case is that its 50% "could do with some cash" and 50% "I've had my CSL fix now".

Anyway, you'll have to wait as UB has mine nearly ready for sale and we cannot have two up for sale at the same time, it'll devalue "the market" ;-)

Perhaps I should suggest you put it back to standard to slow you down :D

[Monkey]

I think he's probably got to a point, where he could sell them simply by saying "CSL for Sale" without the need for his exhaustive descriptions? :hahaha:

If he's anything like ML he will sell them before they arrive. We have a waiting list of 30+ for CSL's! The easiest car to sell for us, alongside 1M's. As was mentioned previously though, I dont think they are prepped. You could very easily spend £2, 000 on a CSL just after buying it!

[LeinsCSL]

If he's anything like ML he will sell them before they arrive. We have a waiting list of 30+ for CSL's! The easiest car to sell for us, alongside 1M's. As was mentioned previously though, I dont think they are prepped. You could very easily spend £2, 000 on a CSL just after buying it!

Interesting James, I remember you guys saying something similar about E30 M3 SEs a good few years ago too, just before the market for them went mental

[Straightsix]

So Monkey gods honest truth how do the CSL and 1M Coupe compare to drive ?

[shimmy]

So Monkey gods honest truth how do the CSL and 1M Coupe compare to drive ?

I read a guys report today which just said 1M lacked the sense of occasion!

[E46CSL]

I read a guys report today which just said 1M lacked the sense of occasion!

Digital/analogue

One arrives, the other one reminds you of the journey.

[GregorJP]

I test drove a 1M and fell in love with it. Right up until the point when Sytner offered me something like £13k for the CSL in part ex. :wanker:

Great car, torquey and feels like a rear-drive hot hatch. Seats adjust lower than a CSL (good) and the finish inside is excellent.

[Bounce]

I test drove a 1M and fell in love with it. Right up until the point when Sytner offered me something like £13k for the CSL in part ex. :wanker:

Great car, torquey and feels like a rear-drive hot hatch. Seats adjust lower than a CSL (good) and the finish inside is excellent.Show Sytner the Hexagon adds;)

[CraigMillwardCroft]

I test drove a 1M and fell in love with it. Right up until the point when Sytner offered me something like £13k for the CSL in part ex. :wanker:

Great car, torquey and feels like a rear-drive hot hatch. Seats adjust lower than a CSL (good) and the finish inside is excellent.

Sytners must want to make a very big profit :wanker:

[mattCSLnut]

Show Sytner the Hexagon adds;)

... and your middle finger ;)

[Andyk]

Wwas thinking around 20 to 22k and that seems what most are saying.....Are there many CSL's out there with 100k up..?.....Don't see many CSL's for sale full stop at the moment...So maybe you could get more....Supply and demand.

[Straightsix]

There are some CSLs out there with over 100k miles. One sold for £18k.

[shimmy]

There are some CSLs out there with over 100k miles. One sold for £18k.

one also sold for £23.5k

[Chris-CSL]

I maybe wrong and I stand to be corrected but the 18K one sold had something dodgy about it i.e. Major shunt / Repair and also a dot on the Mileage reading :whistle:

[Straightsix]

I maybe wrong and I stand to be corrected but the 18K one sold had something dodgy about it i.e. Major shunt / Repair and also a dot on the Mileage reading :whistle:

I didn't know anything about whether that is true or not all I know is what I remember reading about the price a while back now.

[shane@mbtech]

I sold a nice black one for £19k. Didn't take long to sell, and I didn't even advertise it. It sold itself.

Depends how quickly you want to sell and touching lucky with a buyer who realises that for £20k with 100k they are getting exactly the same car as a £30k one with 50k. Some 50k examples are shitters and some 100k plus are minters.

I reckon come march a 100k car will still clear £20k easy

[Bounce]

I sold a nice black one for £19k. Didn't take long to sell, and I didn't even advertise it. It sold itself.

Depends how quickly you want to sell and touching lucky with a buyer who realises that for £20k with 100k they are getting exactly the same car as a £30k one with 50k. Some 50k examples are shitters and some 100k plus are minters.

I reckon come march a 100k car will still clear £20k easy+1 I don't think you will see a CSL for under 20k anymore.

[shane@mbtech]

+1 I don't think you will see a CSL for under 20k anymore.

One just sold for £18k Brett.

Think rs4 Steve bought it.

Time of year most likely and I think owner was keen to get out of it.

[Straightsix]

One just sold for £18k Brett.

Think rs4 Steve bought it.

Time of year most likely and I think owner was keen to get out of it.

How many miles was on that ?

[shimmy]

How many miles was on that ?

195k ..............

[cslsuperfan]

I sold a nice black one for £19k. Didn't take long to sell, and I didn't even advertise it. It sold itself.

Depends how quickly you want to sell and touching lucky with a buyer who realises that for £20k with 100k they are getting exactly the same car as a £30k one with 50k. Some 50k examples are shitters and some 100k plus are minters.

I reckon come march a 100k car will still clear £20k easy


Wise words lawsy

[s1csl]

+1 I don't think you will see a CSL for under 20k anymore.

What about the parts for these cars , do people think this will reflect in the price of these cars, BMW dragging there heals on parts is not ideal, I would be pissed off if I spent £25+k on a CSL then something went wrong with it only for it to sit in elms for 6 months or more waiting on parts , this sort of situation must reflect on prices, after all its a CSL genuine BMW parts will only do

[shimmy]

What about the parts for these cars , do people think this will reflect in the price of these cars, BMW dragging there heals on parts is not ideal, I would be pissed off if I spent £25+k on a CSL then something went wrong with it only for it to sit in elms for 6 months or more waiting on parts , this sort of situation must reflect on prices, after all its a CSL genuine BMW parts will only do


IMHO lack of parts puts the price of the car UP not Down. It means spares are more sought after so even scrapper 150k mile cars go up in price.

[s1csl]

IMHO lack of parts puts the price of the car UP not Down. It means spares are more sought after so even scrapper 150k mile cars go up in price.

I don't think warranty allow second hand parts and the situation is today not 5 or 10 years down the line after all genuine is what people will be looking for not a fist full of receipts from the local scrap yard who has sold them M3 parts as this does not make a CSL

[shane@mbtech]

I don't think warranty allow second had parts

Warranty won't last forever.

[shimmy]

I don't think warranty allow second had parts

Then warranties will drop off and cars will be unwarranted. Down forget most non UK cars don't have warranties and prices are even higher than uk.

A classic will appreciate. A classic with lack of spares supplies wil appreciate even faster and then the parts will be made by someone as it makes financial sense.

Not my field but that's how I see it.

[Yanto]

Then warranties will drop off and cars will be unwarranted. Down forget most non UK cars don't have warranties and prices are even higher than uk.

A classic will appreciate. A classic with lack of spares supplies wil appreciate even faster and then the parts will be made by someone as it makes financial sense.

Not my field but that's how I see it.

Wisest words you ever did speak big fella :beer:

[shane@mbtech]

They are definitely appreciating.
I should have kept mine. :hahaha:

[shimmy]

Wisest words you ever did speak big fella :beer:

They are definitely appreciating.
I should have kept mine. :hahaha:

With age comes wisdom............plus oesteoparosis

[s1csl]

I don't think warranty allow second hand parts and the situation is today not 5 or 10 years down the line after all genuine is what people will be looking for not a fist full of receipts from the local scrap yard who has sold them M3 parts as this does not make a CSL

PRESENT DAY boys

[Yanto]

PRESENT DAY boys

I'm knackered reading that without a , or a . :)

[s1csl]

They are definitely appreciating.
I should have kept mine. :hahaha:

There are 1 or 2 CSLs for sale if you feel that way

[s1csl]

I'm knackered reading that without a , or a . :)

that picture is great

[MCSL]

You could very easily spend £2, 000 on a CSL just after buying it!

:smt045