brake fluid for bbk setup

[boz]

The brake fluid in my AP front/rear BBK needs changing but I'm not sure which one I need. There seems to be quite a few different fluids out there and I'm not mechanically minded enough to choose between them (I was going to order online and go to my local indy to get the work done).

Seeing as many of you run BBKs on here, I figured this would be the best place to ask. Could anyone point me in the right direction? :)

[Mike R]

Castrol SRF - it's wet boiling point is higher than most fluids dry boiling point :).

[The Gorilla]

Hi,

Quote-''Castrol SRF - it's wet boiling point is higher than most fluids dry boiling point

If your require Brake Fluid with such
high temps then something is wrong.

Save yourself some money ATE Blue
not quite to SRF but for Road and Track
use, more than capable, plus some.

Regards,

The Gorilla.

[shane@mbtech]

I use motul rbf660.

Never has an issue with

[Mike R]

It's a £30k car with £3k brakes - accordingly, I fit the best brake fluid I can buy :blalalala:.

[The Gorilla]

Hi,

Quote - ''It's a £30k car.............

Now you are having a laugh.

Regards,

The Gorilla

[philo]

I've used castrol srf on all my cars over the past few years,best I think

[Mike R]

Hi,

Quote - ''It's a £30k car.............

Now you are having a laugh.

Regards,

The Gorilla

Yeah sorry, since purchasing my CSL in March I have had to increase the insurance value to £33k, so £30k was rounding down :wink:.

[gav]

ATE super blue.

[sjb]

ATE super blue, £20 for 2 litres :thumbs:

[glendog74]

I find Irn Bru works particularly well :-D

[_Nathan_]

Yeah sorry, since purchasing my CSL in March I have had to increase the insurance value to £33k, so £30k was rounding down :wink:.

Have had to? Someone forced you? £33k for a CSL is mental unless it has sub 10k miles on it.

Nothing wrong with using SRF though, don't think anyone has ever got out of a car and stated the brake fluid was too good or over specified.

[Mike R]

Have had to? Someone forced you? £33k for a CSL is mental unless it has sub 10k miles on it.

Nothing wrong with using SRF though, don't think anyone has ever got out of a car and stated the brake fluid was too good or over specified.

In my own opinion, my car is every bit as good as Marks (which is up for £35k) and given how the values have risen, I felt it prudent to insure it for what I consider to be a realistic market value to replace like for like.

[Pip1968]

Have had to? Someone forced you? £33k for a CSL is mental unless it has sub 10k miles on it.

I suggest you take that up with MarkCSL then £35,000 for a 57,000 miler :wink:

Future classic collectible don't cha know.

Pip

[Bounce]

I find Irn Bru works particularly well :-D:hahaha::hahaha:

[_Nathan_]

People can ask whatever they want, still think anyone paying 35k for a 60k mile csl is mad.

[Curly]

I use motul rbf660.

Never has an issue with

Ditto.

[alexk]

I use Castrol SRF on the CSL as my brakes run quite hot (as can be seen in the signature pic).

[shane@mbtech]

I use Castrol SRF on the CSL as my brakes run quite hot (as can be seen in the signature pic).

Turn your traction off Alex, they wont get so hot:gayfight:

[shimmy]

Turn your traction off Alex, they wont get so hot:gayfight:

Ouch

[glendog74]

Turn your traction off Alex, they wont get so hot:gayfight:

::hahaha::hahaha::hahaha:

[Mike R]

Turn your traction off Alex, they wont get so hot:gayfight:

I didn't realise Alex owned the only front wheel drive CSL in existence :blalalala:.

[Mike R]

People can ask whatever they want, still think anyone paying 35k for a 60k mile csl is mad.

Mine is a lot lower mileage, so I thought £33k would be a sensible figure, given that it is likely to go up over the next 12 months. The worse possible situation to be in is to have a car under-insured in the event of a total loss.

[shimmy]

I didn't realise Alex owned the only front wheel drive CSL in existence :blalalala:.


Not sure I understand this post mike?

[Mike R]

Not sure I understand this post mike?

WHOOOOOOOSHHHHHH ;)

Der ;) - the picture Alex posted up clearly shows the fronts doing all the work glowing red hot. The traction control works on the rears :blalalala:.

[shimmy]

WHOOOOOOOSHHHHHH ;)

Der ;) - the picture Alex posted up clearly shows the fronts doing all the work glowing red hot. The traction control works on the rears :blalalala:.

Oh you are so 1980s Mike :whistle:


.

[Mike R]

Oh you are so 1980s Mike :whistle:


.

And proud of it LOL ;).

[The Gorilla]

Hi,

Quote-''Yeah sorry, since purchasing my CSL in March I have had to increase the insurance value to £33k, so £30k was rounding down.


Another Insurance Companies ''Dream client''.

Regards,

The Gorilla.

[Mike R]

Hi,

Quote-''Yeah sorry, since purchasing my CSL in March I have had to increase the insurance value to £33k, so £30k was rounding down.


Another Insurance Companies ''Dream client''.

Regards,

The Gorilla.

I worked in the insurance industry for ten years - I know how it works. My premium was no more by doing this, but it means that I won't be fighting them in the event of a claim, as it is an agreed value policy. Perhaps I'm just a bit more astute than you give me credit for ;).

[sjb]

I see where mike is coming from, no one surely tells the insurance company exactly how much they paid for their car do they? Although of course they will still only give you 'book price' I hope they don't go by 'webuyanycar.com's pricing :gayfight:

In seriousness Mike I'm about to renew my policy and was thinking of going the modern classic agreed value route, in my experience of this you have to produce a certificate or similar from a recognised car club with the valuation????

[The Gorilla]

Hi,

Quote- ''I worked in the insurance industry for ten years -

What, and in 10 years you never read the small print on
agreed values.

Quote- '' Perhaps I'm just a bit more astute than you give me credit for.

Credit, No Credit is these times of Austerity.

Regards,

The Gorilla.

[Mike R]

I see where mike is coming from, no one surely tells the insurance company exactly how much they paid for their car do they? Although of course they will still only give you 'book price' I hope they don't go by 'webuyanycar.com's pricing :gayfight:

In seriousness Mike I'm about to renew my policy and was thinking of going the modern classic agreed value route, in my experience of this you have to produce a certificate or similar from a recognised car club with the valuation????

Speak to Paul Bostrom at Need to Insure (01623 720081), he insures both the CSL and the Escort (which has an even higher value than the CSL). I didn't have to provide anything for the CSL, but the Escort due to it's highly modified nature, needed everything broken down and detailed.

I absolutely told my insurance company what I paid for the car, as if any claim was made, they would expect you to evidence it. Fortunately due to the prices escalating on the CSLs, you shouldn't have any problem proving a decent market value even on a normal indemnity policy. Obviously this would only be an issue on this kind of policy if the price bubble burst. At the end of the day, the CSL could easily be replaced with a bit of searching - the Escort would be impossible, due to the many unique parts on the car obtained over the twelve years of ownership that just couldn't be sourced for love nor money now.

[Mike R]

Hi,

Quote- ''I worked in the insurance industry for ten years -

What, and in 10 years you never read the small print on
agreed values.

Quote- '' Perhaps I'm just a bit more astute than you give me credit for.

Credit, No Credit is these times of Austerity.

Regards,

The Gorilla.

Obviously I'll find out if I ever have to make a claim :blalalala:. However, I'm pretty sure I have covered myself as best I can.

[alexk]

Turn your traction off Alex, they wont get so hot:gayfight:

What is traction control ?

:thumbs:

[shimmy]

What is traction control ?

:thumbs:

1983 Ford Cortina again

[adem.csl]

http://forums.m3cutters.co.uk/showthread.php?t=87697
Are we getting as bad as these guys???was only a question of preferred oil!!!
Help a man out lol.
There are many to choose from i use valvoline dot 5.1 it works well for me
Others use ate dot 4 super blue as its got a trick colour to it
Others use castrol srf or motul
They all do the same kinda job without being technical
Go for super blue its good enough!!!

[mattCSLnut]

http://forums.m3cutters.co.uk/showthread.php?t=87697
Are we getting as bad as these guys???was only a question of preferred oil!!!
Help a man out lol.
There are many to choose from i use valvoline dot 5.1 it works well for me
Others use ate dot 4 super blue as its got a trick colour to it
Others use castrol srf or motul
They all do the same kinda job without being technical
Go for super blue its good enough!!!


Good point well made :beer:
I'd say change it frequently enough (less then BMW recommended 2 year apart... especially if Cecil's tracked) and all of the above mentioned brake fluids will do the job perfectly well :thumbs:
I've been using ATE Super Blue with my Pork BREMBO BBK and not had any issues what so ever as it's changed every year :smokin: ... which reminds me... it needs doing again before Cecil goes into hibernation :sad:

[boz]

what have I started?

thanks for the recommendations!

[CraigMillwardCroft]

I use AP Racing DOT 5.1 :-D

[Pip1968]

I use AP Racing DOT 5.1 :-D

That is what I had put in on a refresh by an I dependent. My local BMW dealership said they would not do it as they had a special machine for BMW brakes only. They would not do the APs. :banghead:

Pip

[adem.csl]

General consensus is either a dot 4(ate) or a dot 5.1
As matt said for trackdays regular changing will see you right but for general road use the dot 4 by any manufacturer is good stuff just don't use dot 4.1 as i believe it won't mix with other fluids where as the above mentioned can mix with no problems(if im not wrong)

[Mike R]

That is what I had put in on a refresh by an I dependent. My local BMW dealership said they would not do it as they had a special machine for BMW brakes only. They would not do the APs. :banghead:

Pip

You should use Elms, Gareth swapped whatever fluid was in the car with the Castrol SRF I provided and it cost peanuts for them to do. I can't praise him / Emma enough for the service they provide :).

[_Nathan_]

General consensus is either a dot 4(ate) or a dot 5.1
As matt said for trackdays regular changing will see you right but for general road use the dot 4 by any manufacturer is good stuff just don't use dot 4.1 as i believe it won't mix with other fluids where as the above mentioned can mix with no problems(if im not wrong)

4 will mix with 5.1 but not with 5, so 4 or 5.1 are the way to go.

Most race fluids are .4 from what I've seen.