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cslsuperfan
07-09-2013, 10:47 PM
Big thanks to Alex and Glendog for their unintentional inspiration.....just
got to learn how to drive as quick as them!!!



Picked cesil up on Friday after a few mods;)
Rear Cage....Fully carpeted rear.....Recaro Spa Seats.....6 Point Schroth Harnesses.......Full AP set up in red with RS29's all round......Wheel Stud Conversion and csl alloys re-furbed in black........front end paint......
a few pics


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http://i1337.photobucket.com/albums/o680/brett_clark1/IMG_7356_zpsc7bb52e7.jpg (http://s1337.photobucket.com/user/brett_clark1/media/IMG_7356_zpsc7bb52e7.jpg.html)

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3wheels3
07-09-2013, 10:53 PM
More pics inside pls. Looks the cool clubsport spec!

cslsuperfan
07-09-2013, 10:56 PM
More pics inside pls. Looks the cool clubsport spec!

Will take some interior pics tomorrow and post them on:-D

_Nathan_
07-09-2013, 10:59 PM
Looks great fella.

shane@mbtech
07-09-2013, 11:07 PM
The guys did a great job on my cage too:beer:

Yanto
07-09-2013, 11:10 PM
Looks great :thumbs:

Mark CSL
07-09-2013, 11:15 PM
Is it just me or is this another CSL killed its resale value :whistle:

_Nathan_
07-09-2013, 11:42 PM
I see this as making it more desirable to anyone wanting to drive on track rather than just buy one to wrap in bubblewrap and never drive, the CSL should've been more "clubsport" from the factory like the GTS is.

Wrapping the whole inside of the car in carbon fibre for no reason other than looks (debatable anyway) and in the process making it heavier devalues it far more IMO :whistle:

s.mac
07-09-2013, 11:43 PM
I was thinking the same Mark, I nearly went this route after seeing KK's but bottled it. They do look good and track well but not the route to take if you want to keep it for a future classic.
Each to their own but it will look and drive awesome on track :)

_Nathan_
07-09-2013, 11:46 PM
You can undo it, once the carpets are back over you'd never know it was there...

Mine on the other hand has been properly fooked :whistle: :smt055

Mark CSL
08-09-2013, 12:03 AM
I see this as making it more desirable to anyone wanting to drive on track rather than just buy one to wrap in bubblewrap and never drive, the CSL should've been more "clubsport" from the factory like the GTS is.

Wrapping the whole inside of the car in carbon fibre for no reason other than looks (debatable anyway) and in the process making it heavier devalues it far more IMO :whistle:

I would think all the extra carbon i have added will be a lot less than the cage or me in the car :whistle:

Each to there own and if that's what he likes that's fine its not what i would do to my CSL and in my opinion it devalues it

E46CSL
08-09-2013, 12:22 AM
Is it just me or is this another CSL killed its resale value :whistle:

Properly "race" prepared E30 M3's fetch big bucks.

mattCSLnut
08-09-2013, 12:24 AM
Properly "race" prepared E30 M3's fetch big bucks.
Full On Ex DTM E30 M3's :supz: even more so :thumbs:

glendog74
08-09-2013, 12:47 AM
Nice one mate - looking good! :thumbs:

glendog74
08-09-2013, 12:48 AM
Mine on the other hand has been properly fooked :whistle: :smt055

:hahaha::hahaha::hahaha:

Das Chin
08-09-2013, 08:26 AM
Full On Ex DTM E30 M3's :supz: even more so :thumbs:

try £150k plus with race pedigree.

i know a guy who has an ex soper dtm e30 in jagermeister colours and would track it at brands

he was told by BMW to insure it for that value and its now no longer so busy on track. Hydraulic jacks, ronal magnesium wheels etc.

if you are tracking it a cage is a must as a carbon roof n panels wont save your bonce so a good mod.

alexk
08-09-2013, 09:41 AM
Looks good, enjoy !

shane@mbtech
08-09-2013, 09:45 AM
I caged my last csl and for track now I couldn't have one without a cage. But if I was to do it again it would be e46 m3 that I stripped. Gs carbon airbox, and cams and virtually no difference to csl once at that stage.

But then I think how much would it really devalue a csl to cage it, probably less than you would lose by modding the standard m3 come resale.

And as Nathan says, depending on pick up points of that cage, an hour with the grinder and carpets back and you would never know.

Looks great too.

Csl with cage drive fricking mega. Soo different to without, but mine was all singing dancing cage.

GregorJP
08-09-2013, 10:12 AM
I caged my last csl and for track now I couldn't have one without a cage. But if I was to do it again it would be e46 m3 that I stripped. Gs carbon airbox, and cams and virtually no difference to csl once at that stage.

But then I think how much would it really devalue a csl to cage it, probably less than you would lose by modding the standard m3 come resale.

And as Nathan says, depending on pick up points of that cage, an hour with the grinder and carpets back and you would never know.

Looks great too.

Csl with cage drive fricking mega. Soo different to without, but mine was all singing dancing cage.

Contemplated caging my CSL and tracking it heavily, but concluded that the expense coupled with the devaluation would be too much, plus tracking regularly will only lead to wanting to race at some point, and racing a CSL is a very expensive business. There is a CSL on PH at the moment for £28k that looks like it's had some money spent on it and I doubt it will be an easy car to sell.

More to the point, a half-cage won't provide anything like the rigidity or full protection of a multi-point cage in a shunt, and as I got more confident on track, I got less comfortable with the speed and the lack of life insurance.

So either: (I) an expensive and well-fitted half cage in the CSL for racy looks and a GT3 RS patina, which Simpsons have done well but which I think narrows the number of buyers for the car or (II) get a standard E46, strip it, add KWs, full cage, etc etc and you have a safer car that is just as fast and that you can race if you want without the devaluation. I've got an E36 M3 track car for exactly that reason.

E46CSL
08-09-2013, 11:15 AM
.. I've got an E36 M3 track car for exactly that reason.

Good choice.

_Nathan_
08-09-2013, 12:19 PM
Half cage better for a road car I think, have a big crash on the road with a full cage and no lid and it'll hurt...

shimmy
08-09-2013, 01:10 PM
Half cage better for a road car I think, have a big crash on the road with a full cage and no lid and it'll hurt...

I thought long and hard about cages and ruled out FULL cage as car still is used on road and I wouldn't have front cage without lid unless the risks on track were too great. I (we) have seen and heard of bad injuries with full cages on road cars.

Thought about half cage but the idea of the cage was to save me and a passenger on track and a half cage I think in a road car with all airbags still working, modern roll over protection and pillar strength it's a bit swings a roundabouts.

If I did the ring I would have def put in a full cage as the risks are so much greater.

cslsuperfan
09-09-2013, 08:51 PM
Is it just me or is this another CSL killed its resale value :whistle:

You should be over the moon mark, with one less on the purist shelf your csl is worth just that little more:whistle:

shane@mbtech
09-09-2013, 10:15 PM
You should be over the moon mark, with one less on the purist shelf your csl is worth just that little more:whistle:

Nah his has shit tyres;)

Mark CSL
10-09-2013, 12:20 AM
Nah his has shit tyres;)

Saves it flipping on its roof

Mark CSL
10-09-2013, 12:22 AM
You should be over the moon mark, with one less on the purist shelf your csl is worth just that little more:whistle:

It's your choice m8 I just think it makes the
Car harder to sell it with the cage

karbonkid
10-09-2013, 10:44 AM
Done already!? Car looks awesome, they've done an excellent job by the looks of things mate and don't worry about resale, the others just haven't got big enough balls to do what you've done. ;) The car is to be enjoyed and not to fret about whether it will sell or not later on in life, that's if you ever do sell it. However if/ when you do, a different person will buy it for a completely different reason, the way it was designed - to be driven! GL

Brandtner
10-09-2013, 01:23 PM
Well modded mate - exactly how the CSL should have been from factory! Don't worry about all this resale value nonsense it's nothing that can't be undone plus somebody out there might like it exactly the way it is :)

trackm3
10-09-2013, 01:48 PM
Well modded mate - exactly how the CSL should have been from factory! Don't worry about all this resale value nonsense it's nothing that can't be undone plus somebody out there might like it exactly the way it is :)

I Like it, don't you change a thing :-D

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c258/trackm3/IMG-20130420-00721_zps0bc05ebf.jpg (http://s29.photobucket.com/user/trackm3/media/IMG-20130420-00721_zps0bc05ebf.jpg.html)

northernjim
10-09-2013, 04:03 PM
Done already!? Car looks awesome, they've done an excellent job by the looks of things mate and don't worry about resale, the others just haven't got big enough balls to do what you've done. ;) The car is to be enjoyed and not to fret about whether it will sell or not later on in life, that's if you ever do sell it. However if/ when you do, a different person will buy it for a completely different reason, the way it was designed - to be driven! GL


+1

looks great, enjoy driving it to its potential :beer::beer:

CraigMillwardCroft
10-09-2013, 05:15 PM
Nice job :-D