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m3dragon
18-07-2013, 10:05 PM
http://www.norcaldrivers.com/albums/Bimmerfest%202013%20-%20Adam/slides/100_2160.JPG

http://www.norcaldrivers.com/albums/Bimmerfest%202013%20-%20Adam/slides/100_2186.JPG

http://www.norcaldrivers.com/albums/Bimmerfest%202013%20-%20Adam/slides/100_2187.JPG

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MQP
20-07-2013, 12:58 AM
nice, but wrong color - stahlgrau :)

m3dragon
20-07-2013, 01:23 AM
US Steel Gray so not changing it. We had the color here for two years so not going to change it.

I can post the full conversion here as it is more than just body parts.

Olive
20-07-2013, 07:43 AM
I followed your conversion on the US forum. Nice job !

mattCSLnut
20-07-2013, 12:21 PM
US Steel Gray so not changing it. We had the color here for two years so not going to change it.


You can always get a "Silver Grey" wrap for the full effect :thumbs:

73CSL
20-07-2013, 12:52 PM
very nice .. but why the CSL badge ? Its like all the superb Porsche 964 'RS' conversions , usually better than the real thing, but then spoiled when they are badged as an RS ... the car is great in its own way, shame to label it as a fake

mattCSLnut
20-07-2013, 01:11 PM
very nice .. but why the CSL badge ? Its like all the superb Porsche 964 'RS' conversions , usually better than the real thing, but then spoiled when they are badged as an RS ... the car is great in its own way, shame to label it as a fake

+1 :thumbs:

Neil M
20-07-2013, 06:21 PM
Applying a badge has no bearing on a CSL (the badge was optional, you either chose to have one or not when the initial order was placed, this resulted in quite a significant number remaining un-badged)
So I don't really see the point, just a waste of a badge, if I'm being honest! IMO it would make more of a statement without!:thumbs:

m3dragon
20-07-2013, 06:42 PM
I already know posting here will get the most flack of any group about the badge. The badge was a full vanity addition as I noted in the build thread. It will always be a controversial addition but to each their own, like slamming the car to the ground.

State side we get shafted from getting all the great cars, CSL in point. To take the time, effort and funds to make a conversion with all the OE bits and not just cosmetic is rare (or insane depending on who you ask). Then again I went with upgrades and CSL owner could do as well.

Love or hate the badge I never claim to be a real one. I always tell people as close as real as we can get in the states. I have done my best to keep the build in class for the M3 and the CSL.

So wit that, fire away and hate or enjoy the time and effort to make something we never had here in the sates.

10 years of ownership thread.
http://www.m3forum.net/m3forum/showthread.php?t=412413

Olive
20-07-2013, 09:18 PM
This work come from a passionate guy. That is the essential.
The CSL badge seems to me more strange due to the car color in fact ...

m3dragon
20-07-2013, 09:25 PM
I find it interesting though BMW only allowed 2 colors for the CSL and 3 for the 1M. I will keep my 1M white but it is interesting to see those who own either car that have done full paint jobs not wraps.

I believe recently someone did a CSL in red and don't forget the 1M owner who painted the car dakar yellow.

MQP
21-07-2013, 01:30 AM
why it is not possible to import an CSL to USA?

m3dragon
21-07-2013, 01:55 AM
Emissions and crash testing keep a lot of "fun cars" out of the states. In this case it was emissions that prevented the CSL from coming over from what I have read.

There are 2 CSL in the states that were brought in through puerto rico. As puerto rico is a US teritory there is ways to get them in but it is not easy.

So in order to have a CSL in the states you have to make it.

MQP
21-07-2013, 09:51 PM
crasy, emission.... an at every corner V8 pickups :thumbs:

MQP
21-07-2013, 11:15 PM
but congratulation, some details looks like me

http://abload.de/thumb/img_2105w6aai.jpg (http://abload.de/image.php?img=img_2105w6aai.jpg)
http://abload.de/thumb/img_2106qsxic.jpg (http://abload.de/image.php?img=img_2106qsxic.jpg)

only new is the best:thumbs:thumbs:

m3dragon
23-09-2013, 10:39 PM
HAHA I see your steering rack and raise you a parts list.


Complete breakdown on the current setup of the car in regards to parts.

**Please note: these are prices as listed on the website as of 2/2013 – not what I paid for them** I have been building this car going on 11 years now.https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AsvVWLBz-tX_dDhMT1BWNkl6eFhXc0FWbFJMa0RvWEE&usp=sharing

CSL Air Intake
11617833496 --- AIR COLLECTOR
11617831740 --- BRACKET
7119902973 ---- HEX BOLT WITH WASHER
7119900398 ---- HEX NUT --- X2
11617831745 --- MUFFLER CLAMP --- X6
11617833497 --- UNFILTERED AIR HOUSING
11617833648 --- INTAKE
7129952137 ---- HOSE CLAMP
11617833646 --- AIR DUCT
11617833645 --- SUCTION TUBE
7119905016 ---- COUNTERSUNK SCREW --- X4
7119901780 ---- FILLISTER HEAD WITH WASHER
16131176747 --- PLASTIC NUT
7119931115 ---- FLAT WASHER ---- X2
7129952127 ---- HOSE CLAMP
11617833647 --- AIR SHUT OFF CALVE
11157833649 --- VENT HOSE
13717896774 --- INTAKE MANIFOLD
13621739510 --- TEMPERATURE SENSOR AIR
13727838625 --- BMC AIR PANNEL FILTER


Engine Modification
TCS497/C ------ Samsco Hoses
EV111AA Evolve- ECU Tune + Alpha-N Stage 3
E46M3CCK ----- Zionsville E46 M3 Competition Cooling Kit
E46M3CCK ----- Zionsville - SPAL (2) Speed Fan Kit
11317835041 --- CSL INLET CAMSHAFT
11317835043 --- CSL CAMSHAFT EXHAUST
11337833259 --- BMW Rocker Arms ---- X24
POWERPULLEY --- Rogue Engineering Power Pulleys
PD6002203R ---- Ignition Solutions PLASMADIRECT
--------------- Castrol Edge 10w-60 --- X6
11427833769 --- BMW Oil Filter Kit
54-10468 ------ AFE Cold Air Intake System Dynamic Air Scoop
OilCoolerKit -- E46 M3 Turner Motorsport Fluidyne Oil Cooler Kit


Exhaust
022 044 001 --- SuperSprint Step Headers (Version 1)
022 044 002 --- SuperSprint Metallic Cat System
022 787 503 --- SuperSprint Resonated X-Pipe
B5313.00832 --- Eisenmann Racing Exhaust
11627830667 --- Gasket Asbestos Free

Transmission
21532282549 --- CSL Expansion tank
41147896136 --- SMG Reservoir Bracket
TM-RED ---------- UUC Transmission Mount Bushing kit - RED
101-43SMG ----- ESS E46 M3 SMG Transmission Software
CHF11S ----------- SMG Hydraulic Unit Fluid

CSL Center Console
51167895578 --- Console-CSL
51167896362 --- Frame-CSL
51167896361 --- Frame- CSL
51167896956 --- Insert-CSL
51711904843 --- Blind plugD=23MM --- X2
34417896360 --- e-brake boot
51168235570 --- Bracket
7129901644 ---- Body Nut --- X2
71111180290 --- Sheet Metal Screw --- X2

Interior
51417896919 --- Door handle front left-CSL
51417896920 --- Door handle front right
REC-070-91-UU11 RECARO Profi SPG XL --- X2
REC-8025 ------ RECARO - Steel Adapter (Pair) --- X2
REC-8015 ------ RECARO - Slider Track Kit --- X2
Tule Fab Custom brackets to mount --- X2
Custom CSL Interior and Rear Seat Delete

3.91 / 4.10 - Differential Parts Needed & Upgrades
E46M3RP ------- Turner 3.91 Ring and Pinion
33121205138 --- securing plate for pinion
33121204657 --- crush sleeve
33107510289 --- output seals 2
TMK-HM803110 -- bearing race
TMK-HM803149 -- Inner pinion bearing
83222282583 --- BMW Differential fluid .5 Liter 3
TDR4675412 ---- Turner E46 Rear Subframe Reinforcement Kit
E36BUSHING ---- Ground Control Street Stability Kit
West Cost Diff - Gear install

CSL Front Bumper
51117896820 --- PAINTED FRONT BUMPER TRIMSILBERGRAU
51117896379 --- Aerodynamic cover, left
51117896380 --- Aerodynamic cover, right
51117895883 --- GRILLE, AIR INLET LEFT
51112695252 --- Flap, towing eye, primed
51118191149 --- Gasket 2125 MM
51118195297 --- Shock absorber front left
51118195298 --- Shock absorber front right
61672695531 --- Head Lamp Cleaning Container
--- Repaint / Color Match Front Bumper

CSL Roof Pannel
41007895382 --- CSL Roof outer panel in Carbon
41328242075 --- BMW ROOF BOW
51442699065 --- BMW Headliner ITSSCHWARZ
51442268975 --- BMW Frame
51448171515 --- BMW Metal Bracket
51448250118 --- BMW Plate Cover
--------------- BMW Epoxy

Exterior changes
63216937454 --- BMW Right Rear LED Light
63216937452 --- BMW Left Rear LED Light
BMSBUAAA7AS --- Stealth Auto Bulbs
51127897863 --- CSL Carbon Fiber Diffuser
41007895884 --- CSL Boot Lid
63267165646 --- Registration Plate Light --- X2
61130007449 --- Cable Socket --- X4
61131378149 --- 8connector --- X2
51147893655 --- BMW ///M3 logo
51148219237 --- BMW trunk roundel
51148209932 --- Trunk lid roundel grommet for the BMW roundel --- X2
46632347012 --- License plate holder grommet PLUGIN NUT --- X2
88100141709 --- FLAT WASHER A6/4 X2
51181813015 --- SCREW --- X2
61136931929 --- UNIVERSAL PIN TERMINAL UNCODED 3 POL
61130006664 --- PINCONTACT 0,75MM --- X2

Steering and Suspension
32132282642 --- CSL / ZCP Steering Rack (14.5:1 steering ratio)
2072.31 ------- Eibach Front Sway Bar
2072.312 ------ Eibach Rear Sway Bar
BMWControlArm - Ground Control E46 Rear Lower Control Arms
TCKR ---------- TCKR True Match S/A Coilover System (500F/600R)
TCKCC --------- TC Kline Racing Camber/ Caster Plates

Wheels & Breaks
TWH9905002-K -- Turner Motorsport 10mm Hubcentric Front Wheel Spacer Kit
36112282650 --- CSL Light alloy rim Front 8.5 JX19 --- X3
36112282999 --- CSL Light alloy rim Rear 8.5 JX19 --- X2
83.137.4700.82- StopTech Front Big Brake (4 piston / 355mm)(Yellow Calipers)
--- Stainless lines
--- ATB Super Blue
83.137.0047.82- StopTech Rear Big Brake (4 piston / 355mm)(Yellow Calipers)
--- Stainless lines
--- ATB Super Blue

0-60Motorsports
26-09-2013, 08:04 AM
One of the best builds around :) Love this car.

Neil M
26-09-2013, 12:23 PM
Good but not as good as Paul's aka 'CSL spurs': http://www.cslregister.com/forum/showthread.php?t=10736 IMO :thumbs:
No pretensions just a CSL with comfy seats :hahaha: "Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery" :whistle:

m3dragon
26-09-2013, 04:09 PM
Good but not as good as Paul's aka 'CSL spurs': http://www.cslregister.com/forum/showthread.php?t=10736 IMO :thumbs:
No pretensions just a CSL with comfy seats :hahaha: "Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery" :whistle:

I have watched that car as well. Very well built and love the color. I will say though he is cheating as it is far easier to get parts in Europe than US, Australia, and elsewhere.

m3dragon
26-09-2013, 04:10 PM
One of the best builds around :) Love this car.

Back at you sir =), not sure if you saw but we are close to getting the parts to make the flap work on our cars.

0-60Motorsports
26-09-2013, 04:12 PM
Back at you sir =), not sure if you saw but we are close to getting the parts to make the flap work on our cars.

Yes Sir, saw it and following it. Can't wait to see the results. Best of luck my friend.

Csl spurs
26-09-2013, 09:46 PM
Good but not as good as Paul's aka 'CSL spurs': http://www.cslregister.com/forum/showthread.php?t=10736 IMO :thumbs:
No pretensions just a CSL with comfy seats :hahaha: "Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery" :whistle:
Thankyou Neil:thumbs:

Csl spurs
26-09-2013, 09:48 PM
I have watched that car as well. Very well built and love the color. I will say though he is cheating as it is far easier to get parts in Europe than US, Australia, and elsewhere.
Great work and a really nice car:thumbs:
And thankyou for your comments about my car and your right parts are abit easier to get here but becoming a lot harder.

shimmy
26-09-2013, 09:49 PM
Great work and a really nice car:thumbs:
And thankyou for your comments about my car and your right parts are abit easier to get here but becoming a lot harder.




:banghead::banghead:

m3dragon
26-09-2013, 10:12 PM
I believe there are no more roofs and intakes for the CSL. If there are some they are locked away is some secret warehouse.

Some of the guys here state side are trying kicking themselves for not getting them when we could.

shimmy
26-09-2013, 10:14 PM
I believe there are no more roofs and intakes for the CSL. If there are some they are locked away is some secret warehouse.

Some of the guys here state side are trying kicking themselves for not getting them when we could.


:banghead::banghead::banghead:

DazBlackCSL
26-09-2013, 10:44 PM
Lol :-D

Mike R
26-09-2013, 10:48 PM
Paul,
Any news on the feature?
Cheers
Mike

Neil M
06-10-2013, 09:34 PM
Who said they couldn't get them in the States, whilst trawling the tinternet earlier today I found this, too nice for Salford Quays and Palm Trees in Docklands - I don't think so (could be wrong):

The caption reads:
"The seller of this 2003 BMW M3 claims that it is one of 843 left hand drive factory CSL lightweight M3′s built, of which none were ever allocated to North America.
Sure, every SoCal teenager now has these rims and the CSL ducktail on their M3, but there is something very special about the genuine article loaded with carbon fibre.
Find it here on eBay in Miami, Florida).

Obviously nothing stops them being sold once they're in, the link is dead, 'Car now Sold' but just goes to show where there's a will there's a way!:thumbs:

m3dragon
06-10-2013, 10:13 PM
See post 13, there are two brought into the states through puerto rico. The one you posted is one of those. The other is black and is in NY I believe. Issue it that is very long, and $$$ process. Based on math it is cheaper to buy all the real parts then install them.

Another issue is registration with DOT and then local state DMV.

But yes if there is a will there is a way. In 20 years form the last production date we can directly import them here. I bet you anything you will see a few of them disappear from over there and end up state side.

Neil M
07-10-2013, 12:50 PM
There are more than 2 in the States, but I'm not at liberty to say how many or where they are located. :smokin:

Only another 10 years 2 months to wait then? They say that "Patience is a Virtue" but I think most will have run out of it by then. :whistle:

Of the publicised 422 UK cars, there is said to be only 300 remaining as road registered, 122 have been lost in the passage of time.
Presumably this depreciation would also apply to LHD's, makes you wonder will there be any left to import, if that trend continues for the next 10 years? :bigcry:

Mike R
07-10-2013, 01:30 PM
There are more than 2 in the States, but I'm not at liberty to say how many or where they are located. :smokin:

Only another 10 years 2 months to wait then? They say that "Patience is a Virtue" but I think most will have run out of it by then. :whistle:

Of the publicised 422 UK cars, there is said to be only 300 remaining as road registered, 122 have been lost in the passage of time.
Presumably this depreciation would also apply to LHD's, makes you wonder will there be any left to import, if that trend continues for the next 10 years? :bigcry:

Neil,
You say "lost", don't forget that a lot of the missing cars have been exported to other countries (Australia, South Africa, Japan and I even saw a right hand drive car registered in Switzerland).

Neil M
07-10-2013, 02:39 PM
Just to clarify 'Lost' as in lost no longer on our roads, for whatever reason; SORN, exported, written-off etc! :thumbs:
Known UK exported CSL's include: Australia, Bulgaria, Croatia, Cyprus, Germany, Latvia and Malaysia
PS: South Africa, Australia, New Zealand and Hong Kong had their own RHD allocations, Japan received LHD's and not as most of us would have assumed RHD's. (they must have turned ambidextrous!)

m3dragon
07-10-2013, 02:50 PM
Well to the knowledge of the general BMW community here we know of two. If there are more then they have been hidden away somewhere and are not driven.

Mike R
07-10-2013, 02:51 PM
Just to clarify 'Lost' as in lost no longer on our roads, for whatever reason; SORN, exported, written-off etc! :thumbs:

It just seemed that you were suggesting that the numbers had reduced significantly, where many still exist - just not on our shores ;).

_Nathan_
07-10-2013, 05:43 PM
Mine is sorned :whistle: