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spoonz
10-07-2013, 07:56 PM
Hello all,

So after much searching, weighing up options, reading opinions, measuring rolling circumferences etc I have decided that the desired sizes, are indeed, the standards:

235 35 19
265 30 19

OK, so now to which brand. More searching and reading.

Mostly road, 2-3 track days out of them (hopefully), where to start. Cross off cups on price and the fact I need Rain grip. PS2? Maybe.

Lets have a look at Pirelli. Jesus, how confusing? Even there website makes no sense with each description just a bunch of marketing worlds in different orders.

http://www.pirelli.com/tyre/gb/en/car/genericContent/p_zero

P Zero Silver - has been conceived for drivers who enjoy performance and use their cars frequently
P Zero Rosso -ensures the optimum balance between comfort and performance
P Zero Nero - the ideal tyre for “soft” and “hard tuning” conversions
P Zero - has been developed for all, top of the range, supersports and high powered vehicles

Then you go to Camskill to select some and it gets even harder :finga:

Can someone simplify it for me? Or do I just throw a dart a a dart board?

As an aside.....

I love Bridgstone RE050's, had them on the recent Pork, because they have hard side walls and sharp turn in, compromised by harsher ride. Cant seem to find them in these sizes? Anyone tried them on a CSL? Anything comparable?

Goodyear F1's? PS2's?

Cheers

Jon8710
10-07-2013, 08:46 PM
Michelin pilot super sport.

Simple

Yanto
10-07-2013, 09:07 PM
Thread ends. :-D

spoonz
10-07-2013, 09:40 PM
Michelin pilot super sport.

Simple

Too minty for me at the moment. £1200 a set?

chrisburns
10-07-2013, 09:53 PM
Too minty for me at the moment. £1200 a set?

Beg steal borrow or just HP them. Trust me and everyone else they are the only tyre on the market at the minute

Neil M
10-07-2013, 10:05 PM
Supper Sports for daily use, Cups for trackdays, look no further - question answered!:thumbs:
They're on offer at 'Camskill' or they were last week when I bought two rears :whistle:

Trawler
10-07-2013, 10:21 PM
Too minty for me at the moment. £1200 a set?

Ouch, I paid just over £900 a few weeks back & waiting for my £75 voucher from Michelin.

Mark CSL
10-07-2013, 10:30 PM
Falken 452 £400+vat a set and great in the wet :whistle:

spoonz
10-07-2013, 10:50 PM
Ouch, I paid just over £900 a few weeks back & waiting for my £75 voucher from Michelin.

I was pricing cups

£866 from camskill.

spoonz
10-07-2013, 10:53 PM
Falken 452 £400+vat a set and great in the wet :whistle:

Hmmm, might do as a stop gap! Any good. I will flog on part worn.

Bounce
10-07-2013, 10:54 PM
As said £1200 is too much for Super sports,you can get them a lot cheaper than that.;)

max_b
10-07-2013, 11:08 PM
Falken 452 £400+vat a set and great in the wet :whistle:

Mark, have you got a contact for these at that price?.

Mark CSL
10-07-2013, 11:10 PM
Hmmm, might do as a stop gap! Any good. I will flog on part worn.

You will not be disappointed :thumbs:

Mark CSL
10-07-2013, 11:11 PM
Mark, have you got a contact for these at that price?.

Camskill do them
:supz:

Mike R
10-07-2013, 11:18 PM
I was pricing cups

£866 from camskill.

Are you sure, the rears alone are £313 each?

spoonz
10-07-2013, 11:38 PM
Are you sure, the rears alone are £313 each?

I was pricing cups to get to £1200

Rears here in Super Sport

http://www.camskill.co.uk/products.php?show=102396

shimmy
11-07-2013, 12:51 AM
Super Sports.......it's not about cost, it's about value.

Steve B
11-07-2013, 08:39 AM
I was amazed on just how good the Super Sports are.....:supz:


Steve

73CSL
11-07-2013, 09:35 AM
had a long chat the other day with the UK head of technical @ Michelin ... interesting insight into the cups & SS

Basically he said , he got his tyres free so could choose any of them but he would always fit the SuperSports to a CSL that spent any time on the road. The SS outperformed the cup in all areas except for that last 5% on a track.

sailorbaz
11-07-2013, 10:04 AM
Falken 452 £400+vat a set and great in the wet :whistle:

I'll second this as run a set before which last me over 3 years and 18k miles. Not too shabby on track too.

had a long chat the other day with the UK head of technical @ Michelin ... interesting insight into the cups & SS

Basically he said , he got his tyres free so could choose any of them but he would always fit the SuperSports to a CSL that spent any time on the road. The SS outperformed the cup in all areas except for that last 5% on a track.

Hmmm... hard to beat driving a CSL on Cups though, I have to say. Maybe for long M'Way stuff, SS's would be 'more comfortable' but for Sunday runs, has to be Cups all day long. :thumbs:

billyboysm3
11-07-2013, 10:12 AM
I run Goodyears Eagle F1's Assy II and they are perfect, managed to get them from love tyres for something silly like £700 in CSL sizes before the trip, might be worth a look.

These cars need some good shoe's, I would personally go with SS or Eagle F1's for everyday use. Cups totally transform the car.

Billy

still no worries
11-07-2013, 09:49 PM
A mate of mine got 4 new super sports today £980

cslsuperfan
12-07-2013, 01:05 AM
just ordered full set of cups from lovetyres

£1106 delivered:-D

sydown
12-07-2013, 01:35 PM
I went for the Pirelli P-Zero Rosso and to be fair I can't fault them, I don't think there is a great deal of dry/wet grip difference between them and the PS2's I replaced.

Not tried them on the track.

The Rosso's seem to be wearing at a reasonable rate so no complaints!!

Think I paid just over £850 for the set in standard CSL sizes.