Handbrake only holding on one wheel

[deanobeano]

Pulled my car out of the garage yesterday. Last time I used it, I had washed the car and suspect the brakes etc were a bit damp when I parked it up.

On pulling out of the garage, the nearside rear wheel was binding. With a bit of power it came free, but now it seems like the handbrake is not working on this wheel.

Easy fix? or should I get Elms to check it out?

[alexk]

Drive the car and accelerate up to 15-20 km/h.
Put it in neutral and pull the handbrake to stop it.
Repeat a few times.
It should be ok after that.

Rust accumulates and this sudden use makes the rust to go away.

[Graham]

If it's not holding it may just need tightening, 10mm socket and lift the handbrake gaiter and adjust the side it's not braking on

[adem.csl]

If it was stuck and you have had to drive out aggressive to free it off you gave ripped the brake shoe friction pad from its metal body and thats why it no longer holds drive it slow so not to smash the whole lot up get it fixed properly!!!

[alexk]

I am pretty sure its what I said.

In BMW its going to be first thing they will do before opening the rear brakes ;)

[adem.csl]

I don't know any competent mechanic who jams the handbrake to free it up.
Did you not read the part he says the handbrake no longer works?how is forcing the handbrake gonna work?if not done soo slightly that will only pull the shoes onto a moving drum causing it to bend the mounting springs and spin the shoes alot more damage.
Your method only works when you have squeely shoes and only need to pull by one click to clean it.

[adem.csl]

Bmw dealer will NO WAY do that they will strip the lot down properly and change shoes discs and pads they are all about making money not budget fixes.if your bmw dealer does that i wouldn't suggest going there again

[s1csl]

This happened to me, replaced rear brake shoes £69.00 from Elms, the cause is when the brakes are hot and you pull the handbrake on it cracks the shoes then they fall apart

[alexk]

Have you ever disassembled and assembled the rear handbrake on your own ?
I suppose your experience is by imagining or hearing what your garage told you.

How are you advising people then if you don't have first hand experience ?

[billyboysm3]

I would of thought Adem could put a engine together blind folded let alone the brake shoes

[shimmy]

I wonder what my rear handbrake looks like?

[mattCSLnut]

I would of thought Adem could put a engine together blind folded let alone the brake shoes

+1 :thumbs:

[Monkey]

Have you ever disassembled and assembled the rear handbrake on your own ?
I suppose your experience is by imagining or hearing what your garage told you.

How are you advising people then if you don't have first hand experience ?


I'd imagine Adem has done quite a few of these, being a mechanic and all.

I've been a senior BMW tech for the last 13 years, he speaks the truth:supz:

[adem.csl]

Listen ive worked on every make and model commercial car and van and done alot of hgvs since i was 10 years old im 33 now mate and im still learning but being a level 3 qualified mechanic/technician your right i have no fucking idea what im talking about im giving advice on hearsay and ANYONE ON THIS FORUM should listen to alexk for advice as he prob has more technical knowledge than anyone here!
Haynes is a wonderful book!:thumbs::thumbs:

[adem.csl]

I wonder what my rear handbrake looks like?

I would guess like this!
8791

[s1csl]

Listen ive worked on every make and model commercial car and van and done alot of hgvs since i was 10 years old im 33 now mate and im still learning but being a level 3 qualified mechanic/technician your right i have no fucking idea what im talking about im giving advice on hearsay and ANYONE ON THIS FORUM should listen to alexk for advice as he prob has more technical knowledge than anyone here!
Haynes is a wonderful book!:thumbs::thumbs:
:hahaha::hahaha::hahaha:

[adem.csl]

Jon your a mad man by the way i found out what flew outta your car on tour!
It was a piece of rear handbrake.:whistle:

[alexk]

Listen ive worked on every make and model commercial car and van and done alot of hgvs since i was 10 years old im 33 now mate and im still learning but being a level 3 qualified mechanic/technician your right i have no fucking idea what im talking about im giving advice on hearsay and ANYONE ON THIS FORUM should listen to alexk for advice as he prob has more technical knowledge than anyone here!
Haynes is a wonderful book!:thumbs::thumbs:

OK, then I have no clue and no one should listen to me.
I missed your advice piece though. It was go to the dealer and replace all parts ?

BTW, I am surprised you were asking me about advice on how to set up the laptimer.
I would expect if you are a senior tech you should know 2-3 things about electronics as BMW cars have quite a few electronics the last 15 years.
My apologies, I misunderstood.

[adem.csl]

OK, then I have no clue and no one should listen to me.
I missed your advice piece though. It was go to the dealer and replace all parts ?

BTW, I am surprised you were asking me about advice on how to set up the laptimer.
I would expect if you are a senior tech you should know 2-3 things about electronics as BMW cars have quite a few electronics the last 15 years.
My apologies, I misunderstood.

Lol ha ha yeah fair enough cos all cars come with lap timers mate.what I was asking was how to overlay video and lap time onto a clip that can be posted onto you tube,and what devices would be best used to do this.has fuck all to do with mechanical systems and are electronic devices not associated with motor vehicle maintainance.and seeing i have no track experience or knowledge about lap timers or gps systems its got fuck all to do with fixing cars hennce i don't post opinions on things i know nothing about.your too wrapped up in yourself mate and i can understand why soo im not gonna carry on this with you as I and many others have quietened you regards what this post originally was started for so crack on enjoy your weekend and your vast knowledge.

[adem.csl]

[QUOTE=adem.csl;149330]If it was stuck and you have had to drive out aggressive to free it off you have ripped the brake shoe friction pad from its metal body and thats why it no longer holds drive it slow so not to smash the whole lot up get it fixed properly

Was my advice mate get it right!!

[shane@mbtech]

Alex

The guy speaks the truth.

I have replaced hundreds of inboard handbrake shoes in my life.

[CraigMillwardCroft]

I wonder what my rear handbrake looks like?
Probably the same as your old front disc's :wink:

[sailorbaz]

Popcorn...

[adem.csl]

Popcorn...

Got a microwave onboard?

[northernjim]

I used to work at British aerospace, where tolerances are far far smaller than in these shitty cars...... There was the official handbook way of doing things and then there was the actual way lads on the shop floor would do it....


There is always more than 1 way to skin a cat, and I think that people are missing out on the subtleties of language and getting a bit carried away on this thread......

[Graham]

Btw. Motor factors do these shoes for about £18 and they're a piece of piss to replace. No need to go BMW for such a simple job

[adem.csl]

Sorry Jim i apologise for certain words used in my post,i don't set out to offend i speak my mind and often type what im saying!
Correct there are ways to skin a cat but being careful not to kill it in the process is always something to be wary about!lol
Apologies for my language

[Chris-CSL]

Cakes all around :gayfight:

Now in future forget Adam, Gareth, Monkey The Ape and anyone else that thinks they know about Cars!! Just ask me and ill tell you straight







(I've got all the Haynes manuals on PDF so I am well knowledgeable)

[adem.csl]

Cakes all around :gayfight:

Now in future forget Adam, Gareth, Monkey The Ape and anyone else that thinks they know about Cars!! Just ask me and ill tell you straight







(I've got all the Haynes manuals on PDF so I am well knowledgeable)



Lol love it!so its you for advice?how do I remove and refit an smg pump?:thumbs:

[shane@mbtech]

Lol love it!so its you for advice?how do I remove and refit an smg pump?:thumbs:

Remove carbon airbox.

Its in your face,

There is a mounting bracket underneath. accessible from under car.
Mounts from side.
Undo hydraulic pipes on top
Undo electric plugs

Not a difficult job.

Took me about 20mins to remove mine.

[adem.csl]

Lawsy i was joking but thanx anyway lol

Have you got one for sale?honest now!

[Chris-CSL]

Dam you Lawsy!!!!!

just about to reply with err that same set of instructions :whistle:

[adem.csl]

Bet deanobeano wish he never made the thread now lol.

[shane@mbtech]

Sold mine sorry

But no different from standard m3 one either,

[adem.csl]

Thanx lawsy
Was thinking strip down and refurb if i can find some kit?whats your thoughts?

[deanobeano]

Bet deanobeano wish he never made the thread now lol.

I have been keeping away and just lurking.
Interesting sparring though

[adem.csl]

Sorry mate i was only trying to explain that the alternative method may be more debtremental than good those little shoes can't cope with a 360 bhp 1 tone car trying to stop on them they are tiny and mounting springs are even smaller amountin in unwanted damage

Hope you get it sorted whatever is wrong mate

[alexk]

Sorry Jim i apologise for certain words used in my post,i don't set out to offend i speak my mind and often type what im saying!
Correct there are ways to skin a cat but being careful not to kill it in the process is always something to be wary about!lol
Apologies for my language

And my apologies to you Adem and the rest of the gang.
I overreacted and it wasn't fair for you, especially when I don't know what is your area of expertise.
I will try to be more reasonable going forward.
Anyhow, I think the CSLregister is the best car community I have seen and all people that I have met are top.

[adem.csl]

Top man alexk thanx again all good now see you in the future for a beer(i don't drink beer)but hey you get my drift:thumbs:

[taotaoali]

Thank you for this article. That’s all I can say. You most definitely have made this blog into something special. You clearly know what you are doing, you’ve covered so many bases.Thanks!

[shimmy]

I used to work at British aerospace, where tolerances are far far smaller than in these shitty cars...... There was the official handbook way of doing things and then there was the actual way lads on the shop floor would do it....


There is always more than 1 way to skin a cat, and I think that people are missing out on the subtleties of language and getting a bit carried away on this thread......

i vote Jim for moderator :)

[sailorbaz]

I changed my handbrake shoes yesterday with parts from ECP (Pagids) Up for MOT today, here's hoping they're alright.

Took me about 90 mins on the drive, certainly feels the job anyway. Happy man, for £40. 30% off Pagids from ECP at the moment.