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Trawler
22-06-2013, 08:45 AM
For those of you with nothing better to do on a wet saturday in the uk.

Just how would you feel if you had bought this.

http://www.911uk.com/viewtopic.php?t=45190&highlight=gt3

Bounce
22-06-2013, 09:01 AM
Shocking.Just goes to show you should checkout a cars history and phone previous owners and leave no stone unturned,especially with a performance car and if you can't get get all the details,you need to walk away.:smt104

JezP
22-06-2013, 09:33 AM
I was there that day he was with Si and the gang gutted for him + it was prolly the wettest TD ive ever done like a blooming monsoon most of the day.

sailorbaz
22-06-2013, 09:52 AM
This is a reason it pays to buy from someone on a Forum. Sad to hear, all those TLA's were' DMHI after a while though.

Trawler
22-06-2013, 10:28 AM
This is a reason it pays to buy from someone on a Forum. Sad to hear, all those TLA's were' DMHI after a while though.

TLA=
DMHI=

Thanks

sailorbaz
22-06-2013, 10:42 AM
TLA= three letter abbreviation
DMHI= doing my head in

See what I mean!

Trawler
22-06-2013, 10:49 AM
TLA= three letter abbreviation
DMHI= doing my head in

See what I mean!

:hahaha::hahaha:

Bounce
22-06-2013, 10:53 AM
That DMHI too :hahaha:

mattCSLnut
22-06-2013, 11:32 AM
For those of you with nothing better to do on a wet saturday in the uk.

Just how would you feel if you had bought this.

http://www.911uk.com/viewtopic.php?t=45190&highlight=gt3

It's a sorry tale but sadly not uncommon... especially with high end motors like the GT3 RS, etc. :banghead:
Also, I can't believe nothing came from the legal representative involvement :banghead: it seems such a clear cut case of negligence, breach of contract & bare face lies from Porsche GB / supplying OPC... unreal !

E46CSL
22-06-2013, 11:39 AM
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Also, I can't believe nothing came from the legal representative involvement :banghead: it seems such a clear cut case of negligence, breach of contract & bare face lies from Porsche GB / supplying OPC... unreal !

Pathetic. Porsche have the biggest guns, and so they win.

Trawler
22-06-2013, 11:49 AM
Roland can put me right on this, but I think in Germany they have to declare if a car has been in an accident or state it is accident free. That might make the second hand dealers a bit more honest.

Yanto
22-06-2013, 12:27 PM
What's a Stoty ??

:smt017:smt017

mattCSLnut
22-06-2013, 01:02 PM
What's a Stoty ??

:smt017:smt017
Use your imagination dude :wink: You are the EFA expert after all :hahaha:

Trawler
22-06-2013, 02:45 PM
What's a Stoty ??

:smt017:smt017

You must be feeling bad it reads story. Have another drink.

Pip1968
23-06-2013, 07:51 PM
I read this on the Porsche forum a few months ago. Incredible story. Who would have thought that a big name like Porsche would not trim their profit a little and keep a good customer happy.

Pip :mad:

Neil M
23-06-2013, 07:57 PM
What's a Stoty ??

:smt017:smt017

It's like a 'storey' but on one level :hahaha:

Now to be serious; the seller owed a 'Duty of Care' to the Purchaser under the 'Sale of Goods Act' wherein it states that the goods sold should be of 'Merchantable Quality' and 'Fit for Purpose' which in this particular case they they don't seem to have been.
This wasn't Negligence, Professional or otherwise or a Negligent act being committed, it was a deliberate act of 'Miss-Representation' and 'Fraud'

As Porsche GB didn't sell the Vehicle (which is a massive topic in itself) they have no involvement.
The problem is that someone in Law is legally liable, or vicariously liable (liable by association)

This would normally fall upon the retailer, however as they no longer exist, having been bought out by a 3rd Party group.
Dependent upon the contractual terms of their buy-out, the 3rd Party may have unwittingly incurred the liability.

To prove this would be a long, protracted and expensive exercise, as you can assume the 3rd Party would be reluctant to divulge the terms of their purchase.
That said, without that information it would be impossible to establish their culpability in any action taken or to be taken.

Bottom Line 'Caveat Emptor' (Latin for "Let the buyer beware") unless you are determined and have very deep pockets, but it is doable!

E46CSL
23-06-2013, 09:12 PM
If CSL's are ever worth £70k+, I suppose similar stories will emerge.

Yanto
23-06-2013, 09:22 PM
When CSL's are worth £70k+, I suppose similar stories will emerge.

EFA ;)

E46CSL
23-06-2013, 09:29 PM
EFA ;)


I hope so too. But after 23 years, the Sport Evo ( 600 cars made) has not reached that level

:thumbs:

shimmy
23-06-2013, 09:40 PM
Shocking................colour

GregorJP
23-06-2013, 10:19 PM
I was interested until I saw all the cod-lawyer talk. Looking forward to spectacularly rolling my Cesil at a track day and then passing it off as a smashing bargain after a quick refit.

e46m3c
27-06-2013, 01:30 PM
why waste a csl. just get reg crashed e46, reshel it with some csl parts from ebay and make a mint. 3k cost, 30k reward, sell the company before anyone finds out and onto the next.

Monkey
27-06-2013, 08:03 PM
Bit late to the party on this one, but thats a shocking story.

You can almost understand a Ford dealer doing something like this, but a premium brand on a car of that value?! I'm at a loss to understand Porsche's reluctance to get involved as well, that's not why you pay the money to buy from a main dealer.
I feel for you dude, thats a rough ride.

Loaded
11-07-2013, 01:07 AM
Holy Mother of God! That brings me a lot in my memory.......