Ring laps Fri/Sat

[O'Neill]

Who is going to lap?

I'm going to give it a miss.

[CraigMillwardCroft]

Who is going to lap?

I'm going to give it a miss.
I'm up for it rude not too :thumbs:

[northernjim]

Me :smokin:

[O'Neill]

I'm up for it rude not too :thumbs:

I agree, but TF and no insurance = dodgy :sad:

Being a bank holiday it will be like the M25.

[shimmy]

Who is going to lap?

I'm going to give it a miss.

I agree, but TF and no insurance = dodgy :sad:

Being a bank holiday it will be like the M25.



Me thinks you want convincing, otherwise why start the thread :(:-D

[O'Neill]

Me thinks you want convincing, otherwise why start the thread :(:-D

Sooo true, when there it will be hard to resist :hahaha:

[O'Neill]

Me thinks you want convincing, otherwise why start the thread :(:-D

Fancy sharing a hire car:supz:

[northernjim]

Fancy sharing a hire car:supz:



get on to Dale :beer: those swifts are good fun :beer:

[shimmy]

How much are they and do they have insurance!?

[O'Neill]

get on to Dale :beer: those swifts are good fun :beer:

Stage 2 swift, shimster will love it, I'll go first to show him the way then I can wear the hand holds out:-D

[O'Neill]

http://www.rent4ring.de/en/info/rentals-for-the-nordschleife.html#p173_allinc

[shimmy]

http://www.rent4ring.de/en/info/rentals-for-the-nordschleife.html#p173_allinc

Half day Saturday morning?

[O'Neill]

Half day Saturday morning?

Yes:thumbs:Do you want me to book it?

[Yanto]

Jim - ill pax with you if that's ok ? You wearing a helmet ?

[shimmy]

Yes:thumbs:Do you want me to book it?

Go on then, but the swift as excess is lower than VW.

Friday night or Saturday morning?

[O'Neill]

Go on then, but the swift as excess is lower than VW.

Friday night or Saturday morning?

Sat morning, first thing, less traffic.

Hope it's dry:bigcry:

[O'Neill]

Booked out 25th May so maybe Friday

[shimmy]

Booked out 25th May so maybe Friday

What time arrive and what time close?

Not so sure about Friday after a long day

[northernjim]

What time arrive and what time close?

Not so sure about Friday after a long day



ring is open 5:30 till 7:30 friday, and don't be gay :gayfight:

[mattCSLnut]

Who is going to lap?

:thumbs: Friday pm & Saturday am before breakfast

I'm going to give it a miss.

Stop being so :gayfight: Barry and drive through Ex Muller with more caution :wink::hahaha:

[Marchino]

I am up to it, altough it would the first time for me... :drool:
But since we are there we cant miss it. I am happy to go friday PM and sat am.

Can you please explain me how does the insurance works at the Ring?
I thought there are no insurance covers in the ring, correct?

[O'Neill]

It's a public road but 99.9% of uk insurers exclude it.

Technically under european laws you are insured but your insurance company will probably chase you for 3rd party damages payed out.

[northernjim]

I am up to it, altough it would the first time for me... :drool:
But since we are there we cant miss it. I am happy to go friday PM and sat am.

Can you please explain me how does the insurance works at the Ring?
I thought there are no insurance covers in the ring, correct?

:bigcry: Do not mention the insurance word.....


best to read this....

http://www.leeds-solicitors.com/nurburgring_insurance.html

Nurburgring Insurance

Andrew Thompson & Co. Solicitors has experience of dealing with several insurance claims on the Nurburgring Nordschleife. You should contact the firm for advice as soon as possible following any potential claim arising there.

The Nordschleife is a race track in Germany that is open to the public at times advertised on the Nurburgring website. The Germans call this touristenfahrten, literally meaning tourist driving.

German road traffic law applies to the whole of the Nordschleife. A driver may only drive so fast that he is always in control of his vehicle. The driver must adjust his speed according to road, traffic, visibility and weather conditions. There are numerous advisory and mandatory road signs on the route. There are some speed restricted parts of the Nordschleife. In particular, a 30 kmh limit applies to the first 200 metres from the main entrance. A 90 kmh limit applies to the approach to the Adenau Bridge exit at Breidsheid and a limit reducing from 120 kmh to 30 kmh applies to the main exit. The remainder of the track is derestricted. In other words, there is no speed limit for the vast majority of the track.

The General Conditions for driving on the Nordschleife state that racing and speed record attempts are forbidden. Overtaking is on the left only and you must keep to the right when not overtaking. The police will investigate collisions and will prosecute where blame is found. Drivers of vehicles which are not registered in Germany must carry proof of insurance.

A UK insurer must not exclude minimum level cover anywhere in an EU member state in a place where insurance is mandatory. Any clause in an insurance policy seeking to exclude mandatory cover is of no effect. The cover required by law is minimum level cover. Therefore, third party only. Your insurance policy will very likely contain a clause which says that if the insurer is obliged to meet a claim it otherwise would not pay then the insurer is entitled to reclaim the settlement from the driver.

In 2010, the UK Insurance Ombudsman made a final decision regarding a case concerning the Nurburgring Nordschleife. He found that the Nordschleife is a circuit with all the characteristics of a 'prepared course'. The insured's policy excluded use on a 'prepared course' which was held to be neither unfair or unreasonable given the increased risks associated with driving in such places. The insurer agreed to meet any third party liabilities but this did not mean that the driver was driving within the terms and conditions of his policy. The Ombudsman said that UK and European law requires insurers to provide a minimum of third party only cover even if their policyholders are using the insured vehicle in a manner which invalidates their own-damage cover.

Insurance risks can be mitigated by hiring a car locally. However, large hire car companies such as Avis and Hertz specifically exclude driving during touristenfahrten. Therefore, the safest option is to rent from a Nurburgring rental company such as RSR Nurburg.

When the Nordschleife is closed to the public for a private trackday event then the above-mentioned rules do not apply. Trackday insurance is available for private events from specialist insurers. Trackday cover usually covers the driver's own car but with no third party or driver/passenger liability.

[adem.csl]

I'm defo up for driving the ring Friday nite Saturday morning.
First time for everything.gotta be done in style.

[mattCSLnut]

My advise to everyone who's going to the Ring for the first time is to get as many passenger laps with experienced CSLR members as possible. :thumbs:

[glendog74]

I 'may' do a few laps... :whistle:

[Bounce]

I 'may' do a few laps... :whistle:Pass laps if you do.;):thumbs:

[mattCSLnut]

I 'may' do a few laps... :whistle:
CSL convoy solutions ? :whistle:

[Marchino]

CSL convoy solutions ? :whistle:

Great idea, let's do a CSL convoy with some experienced Ring driver in the front!
I think would be fun:thumbs:

[mattCSLnut]

Great idea, let's do a CSL convoy with some experienced Ring driver in the front!
I think would be fun:thumbs:

LOL! ;) not for the inexperienced :hahaha:

[mattCSLnut]

Few pix to wet the appetite :whistle:

[Bealo]

I can honestly say I won't be driving the ring again. There is just too much to lose if it goes wrong.
I drove it in the wet just to say I've driven it and didnt enjoy it at all.

Had some passenger rides with short stuff... I mean Rob and can confirm he is very smooth and knows the track well. I shit myself in there as I didn't have a clue where the track is going.

Give me Spa or any short circuit any day.

The only laps ill be doing is from the bar to the loo after lots of beer...

[glendog74]

I can honestly say I won't be driving the ring again. There is just too much to lose if it goes wrong.
I drove it in the wet just to say I've driven it and didnt enjoy it at all.

Had some passenger rides with short stuff... I mean Rob and can confirm he is very smooth and knows the track well. I shit myself in there as I didn't have a clue where the track is going.

Give me Spa or any short circuit any day.

The only laps ill be doing is from the bar to the loo after lots of beer...

:beer:

[O'Neill]

I can honestly say I won't be driving the ring again. There is just too much to lose if it goes wrong.
I drove it in the wet just to say I've driven it and didnt enjoy it at all.

Had some passenger rides with short stuff... I mean Rob and can confirm he is very smooth and knows the track well. I shit myself in there as I didn't have a clue where the track is going.

Give me Spa or any short circuit any day.

The only laps ill be doing is from the bar to the loo after lots of beer...

I'll be joining you:beer:

[Steve B]

A mate of mines there next weekend for a big Focus RS meet, keep am eye out for a grey wrapped car with a massive "ProAlloy" logo up each side...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0603/Steve%40RSx/null_zpsfc92cb68.jpg



Steve

[s.mac]

1 more for the bar :beer:

I've enjoyed some good laps at the ring but it will be busy and busy can = disaster. I've seen too many big ones for me to get excited about laps now.
I think they are also taking the piss with lap prices compared to prices a few years back.

[GregorJP]

1 more for the bar :beer:

I've enjoyed some good laps at the ring but it will be busy and busy can = disaster. I've seen too many big ones for me to get excited about laps now.
I think they are also taking the piss with lap prices compared to prices a few years back.

I'm somewhere in the middle on this one - I still do closed circuit days at the Ring and don't mind paying the extra cash to know that there are fewer people on the circuit and very few mad locals running a Nova with scaffolding in the back. I'm doing DN8 (or at least one day of it - work issues) and I've done many of the DN events and can recommend them.

I did a few TF days when I first started going to the Ring and cannot remember doing more than 2 consecutive laps without having a near miss (one guy in a GT3 locked up behind me and almost took my rear bumper off) or turning a corner and being confronted by the stationary remains of a car and an upset-looking owner. Insurance is also nigh-on impossible on TF days, so you're on your own if it goes tits up. Doing a TF day in a CSL convoy would be great, though (jealous that I can't come to Munich).

[SMD]

I will be there from Thursday Dinner through till Monday Staying at Tiergarten.
http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd22/SMD31/photo-3_zps30d27a7d.jpg (http://s223.photobucket.com/user/SMD31/media/photo-3_zps30d27a7d.jpg.html)

[northernjim]

A mate of mines there next weekend for a big Focus RS meet, keep am eye out for a grey wrapped car with a massive "ProAlloy" logo up each side...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0603/Steve%40RSx/null_zpsfc92cb68.jpg



Steve



Is rob there 24th25th26th Steve? I will look out for him - I'd like a lap in his focus:whistle: still never been in a mk2 :bigcry:

[s.mac]

I've seen an AIRTEC one with blue decals going. Looks like there are a few RS's going :)

[s.mac]

Jim have you booked transport yet ???

[Steve B]

Jim,

yes he's there fri-sun