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SMD
19-01-2009, 08:25 PM
Hi,

What would you think a Cat D CSL is worth?

Not damaged but been in a flood. Only been up to the seat mounts.
All new carpets etc. In mint condition.
Full spec car with air con, PDC, Xenons etc.
25,000 miles 2 owners. Full Service history.


Cheers

Andyk
19-01-2009, 08:44 PM
Ah, saw this on the CSL forum on Piston Heads....in the thread for the chap who wanted a Credit Crunch CSL.

Isn't the chap putting it on Ebay but will take 23k for it......Thats 2k under the cheapest one for sale at the moment.....it's a diffucult one as flood damage can damage what you can not see.

A friend buys stuff like this and he purchased a Maserati Gransport, low miles and in top condition but had been flood damaged again up to the seat mounts....He never had any problems with it until he came to sell, but he paid 15k for the car...Maserati would have had the car up for 34k if it had not been flood damaged....So the price was low enough to take a chance.

For a 2k saving probably not......as I say it's a difficult one but I'm not sure if I would pay more than 18k......but what do I know.

Jaw_F430
19-01-2009, 09:05 PM
Not cheap enough IMO for a CAT D car

E46ACS
19-01-2009, 09:37 PM
Not cheap enough IMO for a CAT D car

Agreed.

dave1
19-01-2009, 09:52 PM
£20k and it will make it its at £17k now! plenty of people want a csl can't scrape the £25k mininum and are happy with a bargain :thumbs:

DazBlackCSL
19-01-2009, 09:53 PM
Yes and with this CSL cup kicking off , a base for a race car also ??


:smokin:

SMD
19-01-2009, 10:49 PM
Yes and with this CSL cup kicking off , a base for a race car also ??


:smokin:

My idea! :thumbs:

SMD
19-01-2009, 10:57 PM
Also the car is only 8 miles from me and i have seen it about!

I am thinking the £18k mark?

E46ACS
19-01-2009, 11:02 PM
Yes and with this CSL cup kicking off , a base for a race car also ??


:smokin:

If its just flood damage, then its makes a lot of sense.

dave1
19-01-2009, 11:06 PM
it's gonna do £20k on ebay for sure

SMD
20-01-2009, 01:11 AM
Up to £18k with 5 days to go! :119:

How many friends does he have bidding that up! :whistle:

Andyk
20-01-2009, 07:09 AM
Yep it will go for more than 18k but I'm with you SMD...18k would be my limit. It there are 5 days to go I think it will be more than 20k...21k-22k.

dave1
20-01-2009, 10:49 AM
id give £20k for it i think csl,s will hold there money for a long time

Nords
20-01-2009, 06:52 PM
Yep it will go for more than 18k but I'm with you SMD...18k would be my limit. It there are 5 days to go I think it will be more than 20k...21k-22k.

Agreed Andy, absolute max would be £18K. As a road car it will always have problems (intermittant electric gremlins etc) and I wouldn't buy it. Strip it back for a CSL Cup and it is a different matter.

dave1
20-01-2009, 07:44 PM
Agreed Andy, absolute max would be £18K. As a road car it will always have problems (intermittant electric gremlins etc) and I wouldn't buy it. Strip it back for a CSL Cup and it is a different matter.[/quote]

have to disagree with that

Nords
20-01-2009, 10:45 PM
Happy for everyone to have opinions, however the proof will be in the pudding or the sale of this particular Cat D (B?). I wouldn't touch it and I imagine most others would either for the same reasons as me...

dave1
20-01-2009, 11:09 PM
well looking at what its making your massively outnumbered as the guy says he's done 10k in it and it has'nt missed a beat.

a few inches of fresh water is'nt going to hurt a car built as well as a bm

bryce
20-01-2009, 11:29 PM
Seems to like his write offs - Another (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/2007-BMW-335D-M-SPORT-TOURING-CAT-D-REPAIRED-NO-RES_W0QQitemZ150321843598QQihZ005QQcategoryZ9837QQ ssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItemurl) of his, and only bought it a week ago.

Nords
21-01-2009, 12:21 AM
well looking at what its making your massively outnumbered as the guy says he's done 10k in it and it has'nt missed a beat.

a few inches of fresh water is'nt going to hurt a car built as well as a bm

Dave, for the water to come in through the doors, it has stood in more than a few inches for a significant amount of time (days), then stood in someone's yard for at least a week but prob more after being recovered, still wet. This will give you all sorts of problems later on and is devalued by the trade for exactly this reason. Hence it has been Cat D (I think Cat B actually, does anyone know?) rewitten off but repairable.

As for the trouble free 10K miles.......! I have to say I was expecting the owner (who is keen to sell) to say "I had it for the last 10K and it keeps cutting out, especially as I go to overtake. There is a bit of a damp smell but you get used to it, don't worry. Oh, the electrics fizz a bit and there is a burning smell but I bet that is just speeding up the car being fully dried out!" Sellers always give a full and complete list of faults don't they???

£18K and he'll be a lucky vendor. Unless the potential new owner is going to have it stripped for something like the CSL Cup by Thorney, I wish them all the best as they'll need it.

I also emphasise I'm not talking this one down because I have secret plans to buy it, it really isn't the one for me!

Andyk
21-01-2009, 07:09 AM
Doesn't matter what car it is, because as soon as it becomes cat D it will shed loads off its value and will become a limited market....but there will alsways be someone willing to take a chance for a bargain, but still think anything over 18k is too much of a risk....you pay your money...

dave1
24-01-2009, 03:34 PM
:119: £21k and still climbing!!!!

Rags
24-01-2009, 04:49 PM
I struggle to believe peoples cover stories when they sell cat D cars.

Just save the money and get a non recorded car!

SMD
24-01-2009, 06:49 PM
Stupid Money!

Andyk
24-01-2009, 07:17 PM
:119: :119:

SMD
25-01-2009, 11:35 AM
£22k! :119:

Andyk
25-01-2009, 12:21 PM
Is it over or still going up.

SMD
25-01-2009, 12:22 PM
Still going!

Ends this aftrenoon!

Andyk
25-01-2009, 12:25 PM
:119:

csl_mba
25-01-2009, 12:41 PM
It will be a inflated auction.. guy who is selling the CSL gets his mates to bid it up. Nobody will part with that money for a Cat D :whistle:

Andyk
25-01-2009, 01:09 PM
Yes I was thinking that.

dave1
25-01-2009, 01:27 PM
:hahaha: :hahaha:

2bar boost
25-01-2009, 08:01 PM
At least it looks better than the one that was or is at Acorn in Enfield :hahaha:

sailorbaz
25-01-2009, 08:34 PM
28 mins to go, over £22K now. Will be interesting to see who the 'Winning Bidder' is... :whistle:

bryce
25-01-2009, 10:20 PM
Winning bid: £22,600.00

Exceeded my expectations anyway. Personally Id go the extra few £k and get a straight one.

2bar boost
25-01-2009, 10:29 PM
It's not sold until the cash changes hands! :wink:

SMD
25-01-2009, 10:32 PM
Defo!

Cat D more than £20k might aswell go for a straight one every time!

Nords
25-01-2009, 11:38 PM
There will always be water in the system and I bet it will always have electrical gremlins...

_Nathan_
25-01-2009, 11:52 PM
Just pretend it is an Alfa and that the electrical issues are "character"

Andyk
26-01-2009, 07:41 AM
Just pretend it is an Alfa and that the electrical issues are "character"

Hey I've had 4 Alfas without an issue I'll let you know.......

Yep for another2500/3000 you could have a good one.......must be made. Still say 18k is limit for that car.

dave1
26-01-2009, 10:14 AM
told you :whistle:

Rags
26-01-2009, 03:09 PM
We will never know if it sold.

Someone email the seller and ask pretending to be interested.

He may offer you the car or say its sold :smokin:

cslgirl
26-01-2009, 03:29 PM
We will never know if it sold.

Someone email the seller and ask pretending to be interested.

He may offer you the car or say its sold :smokin:

We should be able to see from the feedback left? Looks like the buyer buys a lot of BMW bits.

Andyk
26-01-2009, 05:52 PM
Or if it re-appears on ebay again.

Nords
06-02-2009, 07:11 PM
Now that is more like the right price for a Cat D...

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/2003-BMW-M3-Grey_W0QQitemZ280310512026QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAutom obiles_UK?hash=item280310512026&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66%3A2%7C65%3A10%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318


(okay, it is almost certainly a scam)

Andyk
06-02-2009, 07:14 PM
No feed back...do they think people are that stupid......

Hey it's in Cornwall...Dave it's not you is it...making another quick buck.... :whistle:

SMD
06-02-2009, 07:16 PM
Thats the same car that wa son ebay!

Must have been the add before the other guy bought it? :whistle:

Nords
06-02-2009, 07:32 PM
Now that is more like the right price for a Cat D...

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/2003-BMW-M3-Grey_W0QQitemZ280310512026QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAutom obiles_UK?hash=item280310512026&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66%3A2%7C65%3A10%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318


(okay, it is almost certainly a scam)

I'm told it isn't but it should have a '1' in front of the three in £3,700...

That eBay ad doesn't say how long it has been up by 530-odd views...

karbonkid
06-02-2009, 07:42 PM
Why does it have the same plate then? M3 XTM

The phone number doesn't work either and is same number on all the car ads! He registered 02-Feb, after the identical CSL sold.

Weird!

Mark CSL
06-02-2009, 07:48 PM
Is it not M3 XTN :thumbs:

karbonkid
06-02-2009, 07:49 PM
Is it not M3 XTN :thumbs:

Thats what it says....

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/2003-BMW-M3-Grey_W0QQitemZ280310512026QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAutom obiles_UK?hash=item280310512026&_trksid=p3911.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1683%7C66%3A4%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C 240%3A1318

Identical one sold for £22k:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150321884741&_trksid=p3907.m32&_trkparms=tab%3DWatching

Mileage is out 9k though. both 3 prev keepers too???

DazBlackCSL
06-02-2009, 07:59 PM
All a bit :smt012

dave1
06-02-2009, 08:04 PM
it's a con DUH!

Mark CSL
06-02-2009, 11:00 PM
Is it not M3 XTN :thumbs:

Thats what it says....

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/2003-BMW-M3-Grey_W0QQitemZ280310512026QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAutom obiles_UK?hash=item280310512026&_trksid=p3911.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1683%7C66%3A4%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C 240%3A1318

Identical one sold for £22k:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150321884741&_trksid=p3907.m32&_trkparms=tab%3DWatching

Mileage is out 9k though. both 3 prev keepers too???

The bottom link has a csl plaque
the top 1 does not did it fall off in the water :hahaha:

karbonkid
09-02-2009, 05:43 PM
Hmm... Its been removed from ebay. How predictable!

SMD
09-02-2009, 05:44 PM
Robbers! :banghead: