Oem Wheels

[Bounce]

Interesting that the OEM front wheel from a CSL is lighter than the narrower OEM CS front Wheel.Must be Magnesium after all:hahaha:
(Both the OEM wheels have the BMW stamp and BBS on the back.)
ONLY FRONT WHEELS WERE COMPARED


The results:

CSL Replica front (19" x 8.5"): 10.46Kg

OEM BMW CS front (19" x 8"): 10.43Kg

OEM BMW CSL front(19" x 8.5"): 10.29Kg

[Teatowel]

Interesting!

How much are the OEM rears for the CSL?

[Bounce]

Interesting!

How much are the OEM rears for the CSL?Dont know :-D

[rstoughy]

Brett,
I do beleive that the CSL wheels were a Magnesium / alloy mix whereas the CS were just alloy.


...................I think.

[cslsuperfan]

Interesting!

How much are the OEM rears for the CSL?

£1838 per set

rears are about £50 more than fronts

[mattCSLnut]

Interesting!

How much are the OEM rears for the CSL?
If you're asking about the weight of the OEM CSL rears, they are 10.6 kg each :smokin:

[cslsuperfan]

sharp as a beach ball matt!!!
thought he meant price not weight!!:hahaha:





If you're asking about the weight of the OEM CSL rears, they are 10.6 kg each :smokin:

[Bounce]

Brett,
I do beleive that the CSL wheels were a Magnesium / alloy mix whereas the CS were just alloy.


...................I think.Dont think so Paul as the Csl and CS rears are the same part number,its all very confusing:smt102

[mattCSLnut]

sharp as a beach ball matt!!!
thought he meant price not weight!!:hahaha:
LOL! :goodman:

[Teatowel]

Yeah I meant weight ;)

Thanks.

[alexk]

Interesting that the OEM front wheel from a CSL is lighter than the narrower OEM CS front Wheel.Must be Magnesium after all:hahaha:
(Both the OEM wheels have the BMW stamp and BBS on the back.)
ONLY FRONT WHEELS WERE COMPARED


The results:

CSL Replica front (19" x 8.5"): 10.46Kg

OEM BMW CS front (19" x 8"): 10.43Kg

OEM BMW CSL front(19" x 8.5"): 10.29Kg

Are you sure about these figures ? I think they are way off.
Do you have any pictures that prove this ?

[Bounce]

Are you sure about these figures ? I think they are way off.
Do you have any pictures that prove this ?No,can't confirm them Alex,what do you think they should be.

[alexk]

No,can't confirm them Alex,what do you think they should be.

I know these figures (http://www.cslregister.com/forum/showpost.php?p=134731&postcount=30)

OEM CSL 19 x 8.5J -> 12.6kg
OEM CSL 19 x 9.5J -> 13.8kg

I don't see how the CSL wheel is lighter than the BBS LM for example.
Untill I see a picture showing this weight, I will remain sure the weights are 12.6 and 13.8.

Here are the M3 GTS or M3 Competition wheels.
Although not the same exactly, you can get an idea about weight. The newer wheel should // theoretically // be lighter.
19 x 9J ET31 11.8kg
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4104/5084315967_fc61f2d07a_o.jpg

19 x 10J ET25 12.15kg
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4091/5084315993_3528e94a24_o.jpg

I hope I am totally wrong and the CSL wheels to be so light.

[Bounce]

Just found this also

s m said:
I did wonder that - the Style 163 CS wheels certainly seem to be lighter than the 19" polished Style 67s on the normal M3 by some 2.5kg per rear wheel and approx 2.2kg per front wheel. Nearly 10kg overall

However, the part number that 'darreni' has given for the bespoke CSL rears seems to resolve as the same part number for the CS rear wheels now, 36 11 2 282 999?
The CSL fronts are unique as they are 8.5" x 19s whereas the CS are just 8" and have a different offset.
That's why I wondered if the original CSL rear wheels weren't available any longer and they'd just gone to CS rears.
Any CSL nut know the comparative weights of the CSL fronts vs the CS fronts and CSL rears vs CS rears?
Did the CSL used to use Style 127s and they've now morphed to to a 163 variant?
I started looking into wheel weights earlier in the year as was interested to see why a good few Japanese CSLs were running Rays TE37s

Anyway, the general consensus that I found on CSL and Comp Pack (CS) wheels were that the rears were the same, but the CSL fronts were slightly lighter, despite being wider:

Front ZCP: 19x8 et47 23.0 lbs
Front CSL: 19x8.5 et44 22.8 lbs
Rears both: 19x9.5 et27 24.2 lbs

[mattCSLnut]

Here's a picture of my CSLs OEM 9.5J rear on a digital scale reading 10.6 kg :smokin:

[alexk]

Brilliant !

Now I need to buy again CSL wheels :)

[Bounce]

Brilliant !

Now I need to buy again CSL wheels :)I think maybe that original CSL Wheels were lighter and now they have a new part number with the CS they are heavier.:smt108

[mattCSLnut]

Brilliant !

Now I need to buy again CSL wheels :)

LOL! :) maybe just a NEW scale, for now :wink:

[mattCSLnut]

I think maybe that original CSL Wheels were lighter and now they have a new part number with the CS they are heavier.:smt108
Is: 2 282 660 the original (early) OEM CSL rear wheel part number ?

[Neil M]

E46 CSL Complete Wheels Sets (4): £1,736.73 inc. VAT

Individual Wheels:
CSL Front: 36 11 2 282 650 £494.70 inc. VAT
CSL Rear: 36 11 2 282 999 £434.57 inc. VAT

Interesting that the fronts are more expensive than the rears? :whistle:

[shimmy]

E46 CSL Complete Wheels Sets (4): £1,736.73 inc. VAT

Individual Wheels:
CSL Front: 36 11 2 282 650 £494.70 inc. VAT
CSL Rear: 36 11 2 282 999 £434.57 inc. VAT

Interesting that the fronts are more expensive that the rears? :whistle:


More magnesium :):thumbs:

[alexk]

More rear wheels produced.

[CraigMillwardCroft]

E46 CSL Complete Wheels Sets (4): £1,736.73 inc. VAT

Individual Wheels:
CSL Front: 36 11 2 282 650 £494.70 inc. VAT
CSL Rear: 36 11 2 282 999 £434.57 inc. VAT

Interesting that the fronts are more expensive than the rears? :whistle:
That is a good price £55 cheaper than when I got my set two years ago, fronts were dearer then too. :-D

[northernjim]

OEM BMW CS front (19" x 8"): 10.43Kg

OEM BMW CSL front(19" x 8.5"): 10.29Kg


hmmmm


Here's a picture of my CSLs OEM 9.5J rear on a digital scale reading 10.6 kg :smokin:

was that rear wheel on the scales properly????


my csl front weighs 10.8kg ( it has been refurbed a couple of times i think )( obviously at least once.....)

http://i453.photobucket.com/albums/qq253/ilikethealps/photo_zps78b3f0c6.jpg (http://s453.photobucket.com/user/ilikethealps/media/photo_zps78b3f0c6.jpg.html)

my cs front weighs 10.8kg!! ( also been refurbed a couple of times - lead paint obviously :whistle:)

http://i453.photobucket.com/albums/qq253/ilikethealps/d1e83cb1-ed4f-45ab-b68f-be22d67ccc8a_zps9c7e5ea6.jpg (http://s453.photobucket.com/user/ilikethealps/media/d1e83cb1-ed4f-45ab-b68f-be22d67ccc8a_zps9c7e5ea6.jpg.html)

[mattCSLnut]

was that rear wheel on the scales properly????

my csl front weighs 10.8kg ( it has been refurbed a couple of times i think )( obviously at least once.....)

my cs front weighs 10.8kg!! ( also been refurbed a couple of times - lead paint obviously :whistle:)


Yes mate properly ON the scale :thumbs:
My 10.6 kg rear is the original 2003 rear in the original 2003 OEM finish without centre cup, valve or any balancing weights with just the little plastic M badge :thumbs:

[northernjim]

that csl front has 3 layers of paint on it in my pic - unwanted mass:moan::moan:

[mattCSLnut]

that csl front has 3 layers of paint on it in my pic - unwanted mass:moan::moan:
Time to chisel off the LEAD paint :wink:

[alexk]

LOL! :) maybe just a NEW scale, for now :wink:

Nothing wrong with my scale, I didn't weight the CSL wheels.
These were figures of the famous wheelweights.net and BMW ETK.
Both of them were wrong.

What I am surprised with is why people pay so much money to get BBS LM (for example) when they are heavier than the OEM CSL wheels.

[mattCSLnut]

Nothing wrong with my scale...

It was just a joke ;) I'm sure your scales are fine... especially if they're Swiss made :-D

What I am surprised with is why people pay so much money to get BBS LM (for example) when they are heavier than the OEM CSL wheels.

Maybe some people just buy them for the looks :smokin: