Smashed csl bumper

[Total CSL]

Hi chaps,
Recently had a run in with what I think was a hare .And have cracked my bumper ,splitter ,plastic under tray and bottom part of radiator .:bigcry: Some of my part names may not be quite right (sorry) .Does any of you guys know if these parts are easily sourced or even repaired (especially bumper)or should I just see if my insurance would cover it ? Any advice would be really appreciated .

[NZ_M3]

Both parts look easily repairable - especially the bumper, that's bugger all damage.

The splitter will be a little harder and won't look the same, but usable.

Plastic trays and arch liners are easily sourced.

If covered by insurance get a new bumper and splitter, but keep the damaged one and repair it. The brilliance of Carbon Fibre is that it is easily repairable.


I bought the following from a member on here and repaired it locally ...

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Paint peeled back to survey the damage:



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A little more serious than we thought, but we got on with it:

Wet lay using the same carbon fiber tweel as the original with 2 part epoxy ... (autoclave hire time was just too expensive to warrant that type of repair, so a wet lay up was used instead - just as strong and not much weight gained on such a small area)


http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n319/M3_Power/Spare%20Bumper%20Repair/ResizeofPicture003.jpg

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Sanding it down:

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Like it was never damaged almost:

http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n319/M3_Power/Spare%20Bumper%20Repair/ResizeofPicture015.jpg

http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n319/M3_Power/Spare%20Bumper%20Repair/ResizeofPicture014.jpg

fairing:

http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n319/M3_Power/Spare%20Bumper%20Repair/ResizeofPicture018.jpg

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Priming:

http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n319/M3_Power/Spare%20Bumper%20Repair/ResizeofPicture025.jpg

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Painted:

http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n319/M3_Power/Spare%20Bumper%20Repair/ResizeofPicture029.jpg

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The finish product:

http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n319/M3_Power/Spare%20Bumper%20Repair/ResizeofP1020376.jpg

http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n319/M3_Power/Spare%20Bumper%20Repair/ResizeofP1020378.jpg

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Next to the original

http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n319/M3_Power/Spare%20Bumper%20Repair/ResizeofP1020381.jpg

[shimmy]

If covered by insurance get a new bumper and splitter, but keep the damaged one and repair it. The brilliance of Carbon Fibre is that it is easily repairable.


this, drop it in to Simpsons and they will deal with insurers

[Total CSL]

Hi nz_m3,
Your bumper repair looks amazing .thankyou so so much for your advice and knowledge .I started looking at the cost of new bumpers and was getting concerned of the costs to replace .I think my next job is to find a carbon fibre fabricator .

thanks again

[glendog74]

this, drop it in to Simpsons and they will deal with insurers

+1 :-D

[race.it]

Good repair, what's the going rate for a damaged bumper ;)

[Total CSL]

Thanks for you posts chaps Simpsons is to far away for me I need somewhere in the south coast .Someone has recommended a company called carbonology but they don't spray .Ideally I would like to leave it with someone and get them to do all the repairs and spray .I know I am asking a lot anybody know of somewhere in the south?

[AlexGTT]

Thanks for you posts chaps Simpsons is to far away for me I need somewhere in the south coast .Someone has recommended a company called carbonology but they don't spray .Ideally I would like to leave it with someone and get them to do all the repairs and spray .I know I am asking a lot anybody know of somewhere in the south?

Trust me, it's worth the trip to Simpson's. They can do this repair very well. I'd much prefer/trust someone with extensive knowledge of CSL's who is also recommended by the CSL community at large.

[trackm3]

Hi nz_m3,
Your bumper repair looks amazing .thankyou so so much for your advice and knowledge .I started looking at the cost of new bumpers and was getting concerned of the costs to replace .I think my next job is to find a carbon fibre fabricator .

thanks againars




Give my guy a call, FibreglassPhil.co.uk, i did all the design and mock up work for the current WSR 1 series and Team Hard with Phil, he can repair that no problem, based near Rochester in Kent ?

[karbonkid]

Thanks for you posts chaps Simpsons is to far away for me I need somewhere in the south coast .Someone has recommended a company called carbonology but they don't spray .Ideally I would like to leave it with someone and get them to do all the repairs and spray .I know I am asking a lot anybody know of somewhere in the south?

You could always wrap it up and courier it to Simpsons. If you get stuck I can always send this for you as you look local to me. Should cost around £20.

I'm in no way volunteering, just adding they can be repair quite easily ;).
I've worked on front bumpers before and this one had similar damage to yours on same side so thought I'd share. Construction was made to the very flimsy and fragile support that hold the splitters in as this had broken off. As Tom has mentioned splitter could be repaired but it would be noticeable due to extent of damage. May be easier to bite the bullet and buy a new one.


No before pics, only some of me fabricating a template out of card of the non-damaged side to duplicate for the newly repaired side, trimming to shape/ drilling holes for the plastic rivets to pass through - securing the splitter and allowing it to be seated in its original position.
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Front splitter/s before repair.
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After.
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I also removed the number plate holes whilst at it.
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[Total CSL]

Thanks for the advice ,looked into Simpsons and its 160miles so courier for the bumper maybe the only way forward as the car is only limping at the moment and may not last that distance .Does any of you guys know where I can get the other parts from ? Thanks for your offer in sending Karbonkid ,I might get bumper off tomoz and speak to Simpsons Tuesday ready for posting to them .Do you have sg csl with black wheels as I spotted one on the A3 on Saturday ?

[sailorbaz]

Looks identical to what I done a few years ago. My dad repaired it and we had it professionally painted, still looks 100%.

New bumper £2700 if I remember correctly.

[cossack]

I've now had two csl bumpers repaired. Both were in way worse condition then yours. This last time when i had a girl side swipe me, my insurance coughed up for a new one for me. So i actually lucked out with my insurance, and i don't even own a real csl. The only thing my insurance made me get was additional coverage for future events at list prices of all the oem csl parts i have on my car. If you go through insurance, don't throw out your old bumper as it can be easily repaired. The damaged bumper could still fetch over 2,000 usd. I personally will be listing a reparied oem csl bumper for sale in the next month, as its at the body shop getting patched up. My asking price will be 2,600 usd for the bumper with splitters, asa bolts, brackets, and washer bottle. So good luck with your repair, or purchase of a new one.

List price of new bumper last i checked which was two months ago now was £3781.00 gbp

[Total CSL]

Thanks for the advice chaps .Still waiting for a quote from Simpsons and if it's not to pricey will probably post bumper to them and re-fit my self as it was very easy to remove .Owned this CSL for 2years now and had no other drama except a slight leak to diff so it's been pretty cheap motoring and they appear to be holding there value well obviously pending mileage /condition .
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sponsored/motoring/classic-car-ownership/10015194/automobile-investment.html

[karbonkid]

Thanks for the advice ,looked into Simpsons and its 160miles so courier for the bumper maybe the only way forward as the car is only limping at the moment and may not last that distance .Does any of you guys know where I can get the other parts from ? Thanks for your offer in sending Karbonkid ,I might get bumper off tomoz and speak to Simpsons Tuesday ready for posting to them .Do you have sg csl with black wheels as I spotted one on the A3 on Saturday ?

Not not me. I did do last year but now running a different wheel/ colour + I've only been out in it once this year and that was locally for an oil service + other bits doing. Never seen another around my neck of the woods before.

[Mike R]

Thanks for the advice chaps .Still waiting for a quote from Simpsons and if it's not to pricey will probably post bumper to them and re-fit my self as it was very easy to remove .Owned this CSL for 2years now and had no other drama except a slight leak to diff so it's been pretty cheap motoring and they appear to be holding there value well obviously pending mileage /condition .
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sponsored/motoring/classic-car-ownership/10015194/automobile-investment.html

If you get stuck, I can give you the contact details of my carbon guy - he could effect any repairs to perfection - here is an example of what he does:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0703/MikeR/Carbon/CarbonSapphireMorretteCover01.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/MikeR/media/Carbon/CarbonSapphireMorretteCover01.jpg.html)

[Total CSL]

Thanks Mike R ,Simpsons never got back to me in the end so this afternoon I spoke to SPR coach works over near Eastbourne and they have apparently done a couple of Csl bumpers before and the the odd GT3 rs so gonna run the bumper over to them for a quote .
Does any one have any advice on where to buy a new carbon fibre splitter..?