Building an house ... long task !

[Olive]

I am living in an old house today. It is a former tramway station but … of course my wife wants more (like every girls )
I made some plans, here is what should be the final result :

http://imageshack.us/a/img29/3766/facebq.jpg

Garage side :

http://imageshack.us/a/img542/4992/estqy.jpg


For the moment it is not exactly looks the same : 10 cm of earth and ... only rocks :moan:
http://imageshack.us/a/img43/2356/p1090023b.jpg

http://imageshack.us/a/img203/9100/p1090029m.jpg


I will try to add some pics as often as possible.

End of work plan to be in 1 year minimum it will let some time to share the news. :-D

[Neil M]

The proposed elevations look good, but needs a floor plan. The size of the garage, it could be a holiday let:thumbs:
I bet your neighbours just love you with that breaker, cracking away at the rock - headache time :banghead: Costly, however on the positive side good foundation base.

[Olive]

True, the house will not move at all ... when it will be done :hahaha: !
My neighbours are cool. And surprising, it does not made so much noise :thumbs:

[Equinox]

After spending 2 years having our house extended / re-built i just wish you good luck and enjoy it.

[Olive]

Thx. I am sure that this road will be long and hard...and expensive also.
We will see.

[Olive]

some news...
Hole is finish now. They start to place the garage and open the way for the car access on the field.
I will try to add some pics this week end.

[cslgirl]

Good luck with the build and look forward to seeing more pics of progress:thumbs:

[Olive]

A lot of rain this last days (...Weeks !!). I will make some new pics soon.

[Olive]

Hole is now done :
http://imageshack.us/a/img201/7628/130400021.jpg


Base has been added :
http://imageshack.us/a/img841/4649/08avril2.jpg


They opened the access to the garage :
http://imageshack.us/a/img267/1315/08avril1.jpg

[CraigMillwardCroft]

You building garage first :whistle:

[Olive]

In last in fact :hahaha:
But that is the best access to bring all the stuffs. On the other opening there is a big crane now ;)

[Equinox]

You building garage first :whistle:

I did that too, started building a 3 car garage before we even put a planning application in for the house...amazing.

[CraigMillwardCroft]

I did that too, started building a 3 car garage before we even put a planning application in for the house...amazing.
That is just getting your priorities right :thumbs:

[Olive]

It is also a 3 places garage. I fought a lot with my wife about that ... and I still do !!!:smt066

[northernjim]

It is also a 3 places garage. I fought a lot with my wife about that ... and I still do !!!:smt066



Just remind her who is building the house ! :hahaha:





Your plans look amazing tho :thumbs: I guess on that slope you must have a great view too?

[CraigMillwardCroft]

It is also a 3 places garage. I fought a lot with my wife about that ... and I still do !!!:smt066
Just keep reminding her who wears the trousers :whistle:

[Olive]

Just keep reminding her who wears the trousers :whistle:
:hahaha:
Hey ... it is now too late to change the plans anyway.
But like every woman she can not stop to launch some small sentences you know : "this garage is bigger than the house ! ", "you do not need 3 places !" ...then always same answer => "yes I need this place, I would place a bed in the garage if I am bored" :thumbs:

[Neil M]

Tell her "better to have a Den/Study annexed in the Garage, than to confiscate the dining room when working from home, usually works.:thumbs:

[Olive]

I will keep it in mind :hahaha:

Some update. Level "-1" finished. Floor "0" also.
Next week they will start to add the wall for level "1" and prepare the concrete base for the garage :

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[shimmy]

Olive, that looks like a mightily long single span beam!


What is it holding up above?

[Olive]

Above this level you will find the kitchen, bedroom for guests, dining room, seating (level "0"). There is again 1 floor (not yet done) with 3 bedroom, 2 bathrooms and a dressing room. Difficult to explain :(

[shimmy]

Above this level you will find the kitchen, bedroom for guests, dining room, seating (level "0"). There is again 1 floor (not yet done) with 3 bedroom, 2 bathrooms and a dressing room. Difficult to explain :(

that is a very long but not very deep beam

hope the floor isnt too bouncy ;)

[northernjim]

Looking good olive :thumbs: keep cracking the whip!

Olive, that looks like a mightily long single span beam!


What is it holding up above?

The beam above the props? That looks temporary? Isn't it just a block and beam floor above with screed on top- at 90deg to the props?

[shimmy]

Looking good olive :thumbs: keep cracking the whip!



The beam above the props? That looks temporary? Isn't it just a block and beam floor above with screed on top- at 90deg to the props?

Yep could well be temp just during the process, but it just looked similar to the beam behind above the conc wall

[Neil M]

Above this level you will find the kitchen, bedroom for guests, dining room, seating (level "0"). There is again 1 floor (not yet done) with 3 bedroom, 2 bathrooms and a dressing room. Difficult to explain :(

Level 0 (Sub-Level/Basement) Level 1 (Ground Floor) and so on. Makes it much easier using floor plans:thumbs:
Hollow Pot & Beam floor with reinforced screed? (timber 'I' beam on acrows giving mid span support, till it all goes off) Still looks a long span though, unless 8"/200mm beams used.
Two considerations; bounce and drumming if it's stretched. (aren't they members?) :hahaha:

Good progress Olive - you'll be in before Christmas.

[Bounce]

Level 0 (Sub-Level/Basement) Level 1 (Ground Floor) and so on. Makes it much easier using floor plans:thumbs:
Hollow Pot & Beam floor with reinforced screed? (timber 'I' beam on acrows giving mid span support, till it all goes off) Still looks a long span though, unless 8"/200mm beams used.
Two considerations; bounce and drumming if it's stretched. (aren't they members?) :hahaha:

Good progress Olive - you'll be in before Christmas.A cross member.:thumbs:

[Olive]

whowww ... no way... we plan to be inside in 1 year (better to take some security margin). The big work is fast and the guys are very good and quick, but for the finishing ...
It will be more long to paint a wall than build it :hahaha:

[shimmy]

A cross member.:thumbs:

Just slightly miffed :)

[Olive]

Quick news.

Walls in the ground floor are now finished :
http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/47364030Avril20131.jpg (http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=47364030Avril20131.jpg)

http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/43876530Avril20132.jpg (http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=43876530Avril20132.jpg)

Tomorrow they will start the first floor level.

[Neil M]

Olive if you keep this sort of progress up and you'll be choosing colours and wallpaper by September:thumbs:

[CraigMillwardCroft]

Olive if you keep this sort of progress up and you'll be choosing colours and wallpaper by September:thumbs:
He will be moved in by then :whistle:

[Olive]

He will be moved in by then :whistle:
No I think I will not be in before 1 year. The longer work is always the same : finitions.

[Olive]

Garage is almost ready :supz:
http://imageshack.us/a/img33/6431/8kk4.jpg

[CraigMillwardCroft]

Double door for CSL and single for every day car :thumbs:

[Olive]

Double door for CSL and single for every day car :thumbs:
You got it :thumbs:

[Olive]

Some new steps.
"Out of water & out of air"

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[Neil M]

Good progress Olive; roofs on, windows in, time for 1st fix services and it's only July!:thumbs: you'll be in to meet the man :smt114

[mattCSLnut]

That looks like a SOLID house you have build there Olive :thumbs: and the Garage looks great :notworthy:

[Olive]

Thanks. i will have a lot of work on the exterior to make it clean. I will let you know :wink:

[timberjake]

wow your house look good so far..! keep up the good work..! whn isit getting done by?

[Olive]

we hope to be inside in May...we'll see.

Here are some news about the garage access :

They were starting the building of "wall" on the left :
http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/570/5ysj.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/841/5ysj.jpg/)

Wall is now done and the concrete road will be done next week :
http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/6870/e8kw.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/191/e8kw.jpg/)

Entrance :
http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/64/a5ku.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/706/a5ku.jpg/)

[CraigMillwardCroft]

Looking good and the weather, with all this rain were getting could do with a garage for my car :bigcry:

[Olive]

Weather is really not good since last weeks. These pictures are 3 weeks old. I will add some ones asap.

[Olive]

As promised, from today :

http://imageshack.us/a/img809/583/f1zg.jpg

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[CraigMillwardCroft]

Looks good garage looks about half size of the house :-D. we have even got sunshine today with very icy roads.

[Olive]

It is just a view from this picture :hahaha:
Garage is 6m X 7m :wink:

[CraigMillwardCroft]

It is just a view from this picture :hahaha:
Garage is 6m X 7m :wink:

What is the house 10 x 7.

[Olive]

no, a bit more. But the optical effect is strange, I agree :-D

[DazBlackCSL]

Cracking pics and great updates :wink:

Not long before the CSL Register road trip / house warming party then :-D :partyman:

[mick csl]

Cracking pics and great updates :wink:

Not long before the CSL Register road trip / house warming party then :-D :partyman:

:-D:partyman:

[Olive]

if some members are driving near Nice or Monaco...let me know of course :beer:

[shimmy]

Superb....but I'd get those kerbs ripped up and relaid on a proper radius and I'm guessing but once drive finished they may be a Splitter killer :119:

[Yanto]

Congrats Olive. Nice achievement building your own place :beer:

[mattCSLnut]

It's coming along nicely Olive :) When's the big "Moving In" party :partyman:

[Olive]

Superb....but I'd get those kerbs ripped up and relaid on a proper radius and I'm guessing but once drive finished they may be a Splitter killer :119:

The kerbs will be out of the floor from only 3 cm. It was an important request from my side.
I will follow that point carefully :-D

[Olive]

For the party, I do not know yet. For now, I am "moneyless" for everything inside the house for now ...including paint :hahaha:
I will ask to my daugthers to draw on the walls :-D

[Neil M]

I will ask to my daugthers to draw on the walls :-D

How many Princess's can you live with Olive? :hahaha: that would be tempting fate! ;)

[Olive]

There are already dozens of princesses on the walls :) For now it is fun but I am afraid to be a bit bored quickly. :)

[digi]

Very nice indeed.

I'm also in the process of building a new house. Obviously I dunno the first thing about house building. :hahaha:

What's the approximate cost for building the lovely house?

Will cost me about half million pounds sterling equiv. in Hong Kong to build the house. :bigcry: Up side I will be able to resell it for about 3 to 4 million pounds equiv. :smokin:

[digi]

Congrats Olive. Nice achievement building your own place :beer:
Its like magic to me. Flipping amazing. Well done indeed.

I wish I could do something like this. Albeit any creation by me would poses serious structural hazards to the occupants as well as the neighbors. :hahaha::gayfight:

[Olive]

Many questions here but it is interesting to see also these points.
Thanks Digi for your remarks. Concerning the price, it cost me 270 000€ without everything inside (kitchen, bathroom, bedroom, ...) neither painting or electricity and plumber (I am doing it with the father of my wife who is in this branch).
This cost do not taking in account the exterior job (walls, road to the garage...). To be honest, I think be close to 370 000 at the end .... at least :bigcry:.

The more difficult thing for me is to keep the price in the planned line. My budget was really strict. It is a 20 years investment with a bank and I have a personal margin of course but it is very fast close to it !
Of course my aim is to do everything to keep the CSL ! For now the objective seems to be almost reached.

I was also completely new in the house building and I understand now why people say that you must build 3 houses to finally get the perfect house. You learn to avoid the mistakes and the money burned !

To conclude, I will say that this house is a nightmare since several month. Money is going away very fast and everything thing is costing much more than planned. I am the only one to not be able to appreciate it due to all this stress. May be it will be forget when I will start the first BBQ :supz:

P.S : By the way Digi, nice garage that you have :thumbs:

[digi]

Many questions here but it is interesting to see also these points.
Thanks Digi for your remarks. Concerning the price, it cost me 270 000€ without everything inside (kitchen, bathroom, bedroom, ...) neither painting or electricity and plumber (I am doing it with the father of my wife who is in this branch).
This cost do not taking in account the exterior job (walls, road to the garage...). To be honest, I think be close to 370 000 at the end .... at least :bigcry:.

The more difficult thing for me is to keep the price in the planned line. My budget was really strict. It is a 20 years investment with a bank and I have a personal margin of course but it is very fast close to it !
Of course my aim is to do everything to keep the CSL ! For now the objective seems to be almost reached.

I was also completely new in the house building and I understand now why people say that you must build 3 houses to finally get the perfect house. You learn to avoid the mistakes and the money burned !

To conclude, I will say that this house is a nightmare since several month. Money is going away very fast and everything thing is costing much more than planned. I am the only one to not be able to appreciate it due to all this stress. May be it will be forget when I will start the first BBQ :supz:

P.S : By the way Digi, nice garage that you have :thumbs:

I think the stress for you is a good sign. Means you are painstakingly thinking through all the details. There may be a spike in the interest rate, but will have to see how the Fed and ECB react as the 10yr is trying to breach the 3% mark (seems like they are loosing control of the bond market), but the Fed/ECB will do everything in its power to lower it due to the amount of debt they hold. Its a mighty good time to borrow from the banks right now.

Like all projects there is always creep cost, but having your father in-law on your side will no doubt help tremendously. :gayfight:

At 370,000 euro's it will still be a dame fine house and its your creation which with all the stress and troubles will reward like no other. Bit like a hard core petrol-head building his own car. We all want to, but can't. Only the gifted and truly capable will be able to pull it off. Well done, keep at it will be a joy for you and your family once you move in and can enjoy it. :thumbs: Not to mention the market value of the premises!! Lovely bonus.:smokin:

[Olive]

I am living in my ancestors village, the ground is in my family for years. So ... I did not built it to sell it.;)
And I am not sure to make a bonus anyway :smt107

I negotiated a good rate with the bank for a 20 years lending but it is the investment of a life, as for almost everybody who build an house.
I do not know if the stress is a good sign but for sure if I could do without it...it could be better.:-D

Most important point : for the members who will be around Nice, it will be a pleasure to show you it in live.:partyman:

[DazBlackCSL]

Could be a nice opportunity to say hello and :beer: as we pass by on route to Monaco :-D

[Olive]

It is really not far away. It will be a pleasure.

[DazBlackCSL]

It is really not far away. It will be a pleasure.

:beer:

[Olive]

A quick update guys :

http://i57.tinypic.com/20gkk5.jpg

We moved in the house 5 days ago :thumbs:

[shimmy]

Fantastic Olive, 17 months isn't too bad, just thank Christ you didn't get Bounce to build it with his tipper truck or you'd still be in the ground with all the time he's now spending in the Love Nest :smokin:

[Rick H]

A quick update guys :

http://i57.tinypic.com/20gkk5.jpg

We moved in the house 5 days ago :thumbs:

Did you forget to build a gate on the right???? :hahaha:

[Clubber]

Congrats on the new house. Wish I knew there was a CSL'er in Nice. I was there a month ago with my CSL. It would be great to meet up. Next time then ;)

[mattCSLnut]

Looking good Olive :thumbs: Congrats :beer:
Also good to see Cecil taking the larger side of the Garage ;)
Enjoy your new home.



A quick update guys :

http://i57.tinypic.com/20gkk5.jpg

We moved in the house 5 days ago :thumbs:

[alexk]

Congratulations Olive !

[Olive]

Thanks guys.
Of course for those who are around Nice, Cannes or Monaco, let me know ! :beer:

Concerning the gate Rick, yes, I chose in priority regarding remaining money ... then I have a garage but no way to go out :finga:

@Shimmy : we get some other problems :bigcry:, lost around 4 months to do nothing waiting for "discussion" :banghead:

[Rick H]

Concerning the gate Rick, yes, I chose in priority regarding remaining money ... then I have a garage but no way to go out :finga:

:thumbs:

[Olive]

Looking good Olive :thumbs: Congrats :beer:
Also good to see Cecil taking the larger side of the Garage ;)
Enjoy your new home.

In fact I do not know yet if it will be the final place for Cecil (I think yes...) but as I have some very small "clac" when I turn the wheels I need some place to check the steering rods. I hope it is just that...

[Neil M]

Well done that man - Congratulation on your achievement. :thumbs:

The stress of building your own house has been likened to 'Childbirth' once it's over, you will forget about the stress and the pain and enjoy what you have achieved - So I'm told ;)

[Olive]

Hi Neil. Yes probably it could be compared.
For now we need to save some money and start our new "way of life".

In December, garage floor :supz:

[CraigMillwardCroft]

Very nice :thumbs:

[Olive]

Quick update.
I found time to paint garage walls during last week-ends.
I also purchased some garage floor plastic tiles but it wasn't OK, because one of the reference (blue) was not exactly with same dimensions than others colors => impossible to fit with the others colors. I have been refund, I will buy from an other supplier next month may be. ;)

[CraigMillwardCroft]

Looks good where are the spare wheels and tool boxes :thumbs:

[Olive]

It is planned :beer:
But I need to buy some furnitures first ;)

[CraigMillwardCroft]

It is planned :beer:
But I need to buy some furnitures first ;)

Tool chest, work bench, spare wheels :whistle: